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America's Providential History Podcast explores the hand of God in America's history

>> Stephen McDowell: Welcome to America's Providential History Podcast, where we talk about the real story of America and explore the hand of God in our history. Now, here's your host, Stephen McDowell. Hello. Glad you're joining us for this edition of America's Providential History Podcast. A few weeks ago, we began to look at seven ideas that have transformed the world and made America a, success. And in these last few podcasts, we've looked at the Christian idea of God, the Christian idea of man, the Christian idea of the family, and the Christian idea of truth, our law. Four ideas that are fundamental for the foundation of our nation and the reason it's become the most prosperous and free nation in history and flourished as it has. But also, these ideas that must be infused and in the foundation of any society or any people or any individual person who wants to flourish as well. So today we're going to, look at, two more of these ideas.

Christian idea of creation and history has transformed world and made America successful

number five, the fifth idea that has transformed the world and made America successful is the Christian idea, of creation and history. Of course, when God created all things, history as we know it began. Now we read in Genesis 1:1, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. And so the Christian idea of how everything came into being that we see is that God, the sovereign, ultimate, all powerful, everlasting creator spoke and the world, all matter and time and energy and space came into existence. That God created all things out of nothing. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, all matter and energy and time and space. Historian Charles Rowland said this regarding history. Of course, as I said, once God created, the history of mankind began, because God then created man in his own image. As we've touched on in different podcasts in the past, in Genesis 1:26, 28, God created man, male and female, in his own image. We're created in the image of God. And he gave man a mission to be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, rule over the earth, take dominion over the earth, cultivate the earth. Man's history came into being when God decided to create all things. And so this is the beginning understanding of what history is. God created and flung into being these things. Charles Rowlands, a 19th century historian. Well, 18th century historian, in fact, Charles Rowlands was a, historian read by the founding father, John Quincy Adams when he was just a lad, elementary school age, would read Charles Rowland's Ancient history of the World. You should go get a copy and try to read it for yourselves and see if you can understand. But these words of Charles Rowlands. But he said that history proclaims that God disposes all events as sovereign Lord and sovereign as supreme Lord and sovereign, that he alone determines the fate of kings and the duration of empires, and that he transfers the government of kingdoms from one nation to another because of the unrighteous dealings and wickedness committed therein. This is a marvelous expression of a providential view of history. This podcast, we call it America's providential history. Providence is an understanding that God governs in the affairs of men, that God watches over his creation and God moves and operates through his creation to accomplish his will and his purpose. Providential view of history. History proclaims that God disposes all events as supreme Lord and sovereign. So history, he is the author of history. History is his story. He disposes all events as the supreme One, the Creator, the omnipotent One, that He alone determined, he alone determines the fate of kings and the duration of empires. Scripture tells us he raises up kings and puts down kings. He raises up nations and puts down nations, determines the boundaries, the time of their habitation. All of these fit in to God fulfilling His plan in history. Since the fall of man, his plan has been to restore man to, his rightful place as vice regent, ruling over this creation, this good creation, with Him. So he alone determines the fate of kings and the duration of empires, and that he transfers the government of kingdoms from one nation to another because of the unrighteous dealings and wickedness committed therein. So God is not a deistic guy where he winds up the world and lets it run down on its own, where he has a hands off policy. No, he's actively involved in his creation. So much so that we know he became part of that creation in the person of Jesus Christ through his atoning work and resurrection. empowered man to take back what he had given up in the fall, and that he transfers the government of kingdoms from one nation to another. So he works, builds up, tears down, based upon his sovereign will and his plan and purpose, but also based upon what's in the heart of man because the unrighteous dealings and wickedness committed therein. So here is a providential view of history. If you go into the, Library of Congress in Washington D.C. the Thomas Jefferson building is just across the street from the United States Capitol. It's a beautiful building inside. And you go and, and to the rotunda, which is where the main part of the library is, where the, reading room is. It's about 150ft tall, has a big dome on the top of it. And in, there, there are columns, numerous columns that represent different fields of learning, like science and religion and street. And on each side of the columns there are statues of leaders in those fields of life, like in religion. Religion is represented by the statue of Moses, the great lawgiver and the apostle Paul, the one who carried the Gospel to the Gentiles. And then on the top of those columns there's an engraving that kind of helps to summarize that specific field of learning. So science is represented by Psalm 19:1. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament showeth forth his handiwork. But the column of history is represented by a quote from Alfred Lord Tennyson, which says, one God, one law, one element, and one far off divine event to which the whole creation moves. So what a marvelous summation of providential history. There is one God, and since there's one God, there's one law that emanates from him. We talked about in the last podcast the Christian view of law or truth. And there is absolute truth because it emanates from God, from the one God. So one God, one law, one element, and one far off divine event to which the whole creation moves. So this reveals that God is the author of history. He's directing history. History is going somewhere. History has a culmination. And, when Christ comes and offers the Messianic kingdom to the Father and that the new heaven and new earth come into being in the fullness, and Christ and his resurrection, that body has been the first one to lead the way and what new resurrection body will be like, but that's where it's going to. So history has a purpose, it has a meeting. It has a sovereign God who is directing and planning and prodding. And he uses men and nations, both godly and ungodly, to advance his purposes in history. so God governs in the affairs of men. And this was understood by certainly all the founding fathers of America. Even the nine Christians like Benjamin Franklin recognize that. And he's the one who famously called the Constitutional Convention to prayer in 1787, when we are having a difficulty resolving issues. And it looked like the convention was on the point of breaking up, and hence no constitution and probably no nation today had it not been for, God moving miraculously to give us the United States Constitution. And here Franklin, on June 28, 1787, when things were tough, he stood up, 81 years old and he rebuked the delegates and said, look, you know, when we were fighting for the independence that we appealed to God and prayed to him daily, but seems like we've forgotten him. And if we forget him, we're never going to succeed. At least the building of this nation any more than the builders of Babel. And so he said we need to pray, we need to get chaplains to come and pray and we need to go and give thanks to God. And so they did that. They took a few days off and went to church, heard a sermon on the 4th of July. And when they came back they had chaplains open in prayer and the whole atmosphere changed. God gave them wisdom of how to deal with some issues that they could and worked through. But he in his famous speech said that God, he said, this is one thing I've learned living this long is that God governs in the affairs of men. So even the non Christian founders of America had a providential view of history, that God is the author of history. And that's reflected well in that quote in the Library of Congress that we just read by Alfred Lord Tennyson. The same concept of Christian idea of history is seen in the Declaration of Independence, our founding covenant, where Jefferson wrote, we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights. So our founders recognize we were created, all things were created. There is a Creator. And that this creator, not only created all things, but he's actively involved in his creation, that he gives us laws of life that if we apply, bring great blessing to us. So the Christian idea of creation and history. And of course we could talk about providential history a long time. And in fact in these podcasts, you know, for the past over year we have been and will continue to, as God blesses and enables us to. And we have many, many books and writings and articles and DVDs and things where we explore providential history. And of course there are many other great organizations, and individuals who teach providential history as well. Because true history is providential history. If you ignore God and leave out the author of history, you do not have a correct understanding of history as we have explored some in past podcasts. So this is an extremely important idea, the Christian idea of creation and history that America was built upon. And we must recover this understanding if we hope to flourish in the future.

The Christian idea of government is different from many pagan ideas of government

Now that then leads us to a sixth idea. The Christian idea of government. The Christian idea, of government. Now the Christian idea of government, just some general ideas that are part of this is if we have a Christian view of life. We understand that the state is a divine institution of God that has a legitimate function, but it is limited in what it is to do. In other words, the state is not our savior. So many people have a pagan idea of government. They have no other savior but civil government. So they look to the state to be its provider and savior. When they get into trouble, they come and bow down to the state. Oh, come and help us from whatever way we can pass some law or give us a handout or something. We have need of you. But from a Christian perspective, we don't look at the state and corporate man in that capacity. We understand that God created civil government for our good. After man fell, man lost the capacity to be self governed, to do what you're supposed to do all the time without anybody telling you or mandating or using force to get you to do it. But from within, we had the capacity to completely obey God. So we had no crime, we had no need for civil government to punish the evildoer because there were not any evildoers. But once man fell, his heart became wicked and, centered on evil and his, his thoughts were evil. Therefore the world was filled with violence. Genesis 6 and Genesis 11 reveals to us. So God, after he sent a flood and started over, he laid the foundation for civil government. When he told, Noah, if man sheds man's blood by man, his blood should be shed. He laid the responsibility of administering civil justice with man. Because when Cain killed Abel, God came down to see and handle that matter of justice, but now he gave man that responsibility. So civil government is a divine institution created for our good. And, it was created basically to protect our life, liberty and property. We'll explore that more here shortly. But also in future podcasts, we're going to look much more in detail at the Christian idea of government. And I can point you to one of the books that I've written called Ruling over the A Biblical View of Civil Government, which it explores in great detail the Christian idea of government. And so we learn from scripture that state is a legitimate institution. God created institution for our good, but it's limited. It's limited in what it's supposed to do. And the state exists to serve man, as well. Jesus taught that civil leaders are to be public servants and that they're not to rule it over. Men dominate men, but they're to serve man, protect the righteous, and punish the evildoer. Now, the biblical conception of society can be presented by a diagram. If you pick up some of our books, you can see this diagram, especially my book on biblical view of civil government. And where there is one ultimate authority, God himself. He's at the very top, of this diagram, because God created all things. He's the source of right and wrong. He's the ultimate one. And then right under God are individuals. God created man in his image, male and female. We're created in the image of God. We're image bearers of, the great God. And then we learn from Scripture that God created three divine institutions. So those institutions are the family, the church, and state, or civil government. And so there's one ultimate authority, God. And there's many jurisdictions through which God's authority flows in the earth. First, authority flows to man, and then man operates in these three divine institutions, family, church and state, to fulfill the mission that God has given to us. Now, it's very important that we understand to whom God has given authority to do what Scripture reveals to us, what are the purpose and responsibilities of the family, the church, civil government, and individuals. It's important that we find out who's supposed to do what, because if some other, institution tries to do something outside its stated purpose, the result is going to be loss of liberty, tyranny. You know, just without delving into it, we don't have time in this, podcast, as I say we will more in future ones. And we've touched on this in some past podcasts. But the Bible teaches that the primary institution that's to provide health, education and welfare to, individuals is the family. It's not civil government. And pagan civil governments try to think everything comes under our jurisdiction. Certainly the framers of America, the founders of America, understood the limited nature of civil government, and therefore they didn't give civil government too much power. Just read the first three articles of the United States Constitution. Article one is the powers of the legislature and their listed 18 enumerated powers. And our founders said this is the national government can do these things and nothing else. All the others rest with the people or the localities. But what's happened as man has forgotten the Christian idea of government is that they have thought the state is going to perform the role of the family and the church and the individuals. The state will not just protect, but it's going to try to provide everything, welfare, education, health. But to do that, it requires a whole lot of power and a whole lot of money. And as that status mentality has grown, it's taken more and more tax dollars, more and more authority and power from the other institutions and from individuals and attempted to provide things it was never meant to and it can't do it effectively or efficiently. So that's the biblical conception of society. We need to discover to whom God has given authority to do what. And as I said in our writings, we look at that in more detail and we will in the future podcast as well.

Christian idea of government also includes concept that every people have a right to govern themselves

Now the Christian idea of government also includes the concept that every people have a right to govern themselves. As we've mentioned, with the birth of America in our constitution, there's many unique things. Before that people basically lived under ruler's law. The rulers made the law, imposed them on the people and the people had no say so about it. But with the birth of the United States, people covenanted together and formed their own laws, good laws, godly laws. They had a voice in it. We have a right to govern ourselves because we all are going to give an account to God one day of how we lived our life. And that includes how he fulfilled the mission of cultivating the earth and ruling over the earth. And each of us have a right to our own person, as part of our God given right to property and that we have to take care of our person. And a person is a form of our own person is a form of property that we must govern well, but we have a right to govern ourselves also. Part of this Christian idea of government is the understanding that biblical government flows from the internal to the external, from the bottom up. In a biblical society, all authority starts from God, flows into individuals and then flows out from the individuals to the family, to business, to educational institutions, to the church to civil institutions. It begins internally and flows out, begins in the bottom and flows up. But in pagan societies it's the exact opposite. Authority and power begins with the king, the chief, the president, the prime, minister, whatever name you put to it, or to the parliament or legislature. That's the source of really all power. And it flows down to the people if any of it flows at all. It's important that we understand the Christian idea of government if we want to live in liberty. Now Robert C. Winthrop was the speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1847-49. And he summarized a very important aspect of the Christian idea of government when he said this, and we've read this in the past podcast when we looked at seven principles of liberty, last year. But he said that all societies of men must be governed in some way or other. The less they may have of stringent state Government, the more they must have of individual self government, the less they rely on public law or physical force, the more they must rely on private moral restraint. Men, in a word must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them or by a power without them. Either by the word of God or by the strong arm of man, either by the Bible or the bayonet. So here he summarizes the history of all governments, of all men for all time. Everyone's going to be governed one way or another. But he said men must necessarily be controlled. But it's ultimately going to come down to these two choices. You're either going to be controlled by a power within you or by a power without. Either by the word of God or by the strong arm of man, either by the Bible or the bayonet. Now I much prefer being governed by the Bible than the bayonet, by the word of God, than some strong arm of man, the force of civil government, holding a gun to my head, saying this is how you're going to act or should act. but the Christian idea of government tells us that we must first submit ourselves to Christ Jesus, make him Lord of our life, so that we then will have a power from within to do what's right. We will be self governed. Self government is doing what you're supposed to do without anybody telling you. And the more self government a, people possess, the less external constraints they're going to need on their life. We won't have endless laws and regulations and force applied upon us to get us to do what's right, because we'll do what's right from within. And this is how God wants us to live in great liberty. This is why only the Christian faith can bring liberty to man, bring civil liberty to mankind. Because only the Christian faith has the correct ideas and brings about a supernatural transformation of our heart, and empowers us with God's Holy Spirit to live out the way that we ought to live. So that we will from within, internal govern and manage and control our life. And it will flow out and then impact every sphere of life. And so this Christian view of government that we've just briefly touched on, produced our unique form of government. You know, the framers gave US the U.S. constitution, which has to be taken along with the United States Declaration. The Declaration is the founding covenant. Presenting here's the ideas, here's what we're doing, here's why we're doing it. We covenant under God to do it. The Constitution was merely the bylaws of this new nation. It's how we're going to live that out. But it takes into account the Christian idea of man. He's sinful and fallen and so you can't give him too much power. The Christian idea of government, its limited nature and its purpose to protect our life, liberty and property. But if we're going to label our unique form of government, see, we're not a democracy where democracy, is just a form of government where every person votes for everything that affects him. That would never work in a big nation anyway. You can't be on the local, state, national level and voting for all these things. But we're not a pure democracy though. We have democratical principles where there is power in the people, people who should be self governed under God. But we are a republic. And more precisely, we're the American Christian constitutional federal republic. And each of those words has an expansive meaning that shows the uniqueness of our form of government that we don't have time to explain expand on, today, but will in future, podcast and so the, the Christian power and form of our government. I would point you to a previous podcast last year that you can go back and listen to where we explored this. This idea of the Christian power and form of government is a reflection really of this Christian idea of government. Because the Christian idea of government, government begins internally in the heart of man with having the correct knowledge and worldview. And so the power of the American republic, the power of a free nation, based upon a set of ideas and principles that people think and believe and it shapes how they live. And those can be summarized by the seven principles of liberty that we covered in previous podcasts and talk about in our writings. That's the power. And the power, comes first. The power is most important. But then if you have a correct set of ideas, then you will construct a framework of government, a form of government that is based upon the Christian idea of man, government, truth, truth, law, the family, God and all these seven ideas. And having godly form is very important because you have a constitutional government, government of laws rather than man. You'll separate powers of government because man is sinful and fallen. You can't trust him with too much power. You'll limit the authority and power of government and write it out in that, that constitution. And, and so you'll have a representative government where you choose people to represent us, or represent us in the seat of government concerning issues that involve us. And if we elect people that reflect our worldview and faith, then we don't have to worry about calling them up every day to get them to do what's right, because we'll know that they will. So the power is the internal principles and ideas embodied in our laws and constitutions and in the founders. The form is the external framework of our constitution. So we need both a Christian power and form of government. And to have that, we need to understand and embrace this Christian idea of government. And we also need to choose godly rulers who have a biblical view of law, of truth, of the family, that all these rulers will embrace.

John Jay: It's very important that we elect good men to office

These seven ideas that we are talking about in this series of podcasts. William Penn, Quaker evangelist who God used to found the state of Pennsylvania. His, life story is wonderful. I wrote a booklet about William Penn. No Cross, no Crown is what I call it. That was the name of his most famous book that he wrote when he was imprisoned one the of many times for his faith. And that describes well his life. No Cross, no Crown, where he said Christ's cross is Christ's way to Christ's crown. But he wrote the laws of Pennsylvania, the constitution of Pennsylvania, 1682. And in that he talked about how the need for good laws that we as a people need good laws, good and godly law based upon God's truth. He went on to say that though good laws do well, good men do better. For you see, the men that we elect in positions of government are the ones who are administering law. And if you have bad men, they're going to mess up laws even if they're good. And we've had that happen in America. Our Constitution is good. It's a good law. It's the best thing man has produced in regards to, regards to civil polity. And, it's been good. But since we've had a lot of bad men who don't embrace these seven ideas we're talking about, they've distorted the Constitution and turned it on its head and messed up, the intent of the framers and everything else. So though good laws do well, good men do better. So it's very important that we elect good men to office, men who understand the Christian idea of government, man, etc. And that scripture tells us that we are to do that as well. In fact, in Deuteronomy 1 and Exodus 18, we're commanded to choose able, honest men, men who fear God, to, represent us. they had representative government in the nation of Israel. And in my books ruling over the biblical view of civil government, I explore the form of government that Hebrew Republic had and how America's form of government in many ways reflects that Hebrew Republic. Paul writes to us in Romans chapter 12, there at the end of the Romans 12, that we are to overcome evil that tempts us evil in our heart with good. We overcome, evil actions of men by having good in the heart of men. But then he goes on to say in Romans 13 that we overcome evil in society through good rulers. So we face evil individually, we, overcome it as we live in accordance with that which is good. But we also face evil action by evil men in civil society, and that the role of civil government from God's perspective, is to overcome that evil, to punish the evildoers, to protect the righteous. Paul goes on to write in Romans 13:4, that civil government is to be a minister of God to you for good. And so one purpose, one divine purpose of civil government is to minister to be a minister of God to you for good. Now, there are people today, Christians today, who think, we shouldn't be involved in government. You know, government's an, ugly business, and bad people are in there. And we need to be about the work of just getting people saved and preaching the gospel. That's what's important. After all, we're not going to be around and things are going to all get burned up. So why do we care who governs us? but now when people talk that way, I, respond in many different ways. But one thing I will tell people, I said, well, look, the scripture tells us that civil leaders are to be a minister of God. That means servant of God to you for good. And how can that take place if they're not good people in civil government? If you put evil people in civil government, they're going to administer evil. And we've certainly seen that happen in recent times. A lot of evil men in office that have administered evil and had evil results are ineffective results. the fact we have a $36 trillion national debt is the result of call them evil men. They might be apathetic or ignorant men, or men, with no courage or understanding. But nonetheless, if you borrow and don't pay back, God says that you're evil. We've certainly done that. so civil government is to be a minister of God for good. So we need good men there. So it's very important for us to get involved in choosing those that govern us and make sure that they understand these seven ideas that we're talking about. Among many other things, John Jay was the first Supreme Court Chief justice of the United States. He was appointed by George Washington. He said, this providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. Now he said a whole lot of things here that the modern secularist would, gnash his teeth at go apoplectic first m. It's talking about God and Providence and Christians. But he said that we are our Christian nation, said it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. He calls us a Christian nation. I do too. We are. What I mean by that our founders men, is we're built upon the biblical principles. We are built upon principles. These ideas like we're talking about that come from the scripture. They're seen in our laws and our institutions. And that's to me, is a Christian nation not where you have a national church or decree, everybody has to go to church or anything like that? Not at all. And it doesn't mean you have a hundred percent of the population Christian. It means that we look to the God of the Bible as the source of law and truth and seek to build our nation upon it. And so, we as a Christian nation, we have the duty and the privilege and interest to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. So we need to work to get Christians. But it's not just Christians who might be born again and have had an experience with God, but Christian means that we think biblically, that we follow the teachings and understand the teachings of Christ, of Jesus Christ. It's we understand these ideas of liberty, these seven ideas we're covering here, and other ideas that we've covered in past podcasts and we write about in our books that we need to choose men who govern us, that understand the limited purpose of civil government and carry it out. we have the duty as well as privilege and interest. It's not just okay for us Christians to get involved in voting and choosing leaders. It's our duty. And to the extent that we have biblical men in character and thinking and position of government, it's going to reflect well on everything in our nation and will be a blessing not just to us, but to all men. Even those that gnash, their teeth at God and shake their fist at God and Christian people, it benefits them as well. Proverbs 29:2 tells us when the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice. But when the wicked man rules people Groan. So I'd much rather rejoice than groan. So I need to get involved in choosing those who govern us. And there's lots of ways to do that. In fact, in future podcasts, we'll explore this whole concept of how can I fulfill my civil duties. It's much more, more than just voting. We do need to vote, but it's much more than that. We need to raise up godly men so that we have people to vote for that are good. We don't have to choose between the lesser of two evils. Scripture tells us the, general qualifications for godly officials I mentioned earlier in Deuteronomy 1 and Exodus 18, Scripture tells us that told that, you know, Moses was following the godly counsel of his father in law, Jethro, because he had been judging among the people. He was, really the only judge at the time. And people were lining up all day and taking all his time to judge between and conflicts that people had. Jethro said, hey, you're going to kill yourself, and this is not the way to do it. Said, tell the people to choose from among themselves men, and he could set them over tens, fifties, hundreds and thousands. And that he also reveals the character of the men that the people should choose. Able, wise, understanding, knowledgeable men, men of truth hating covetousness, such as men that fear God.

Having a biblical worldview determines how you act, how you pass laws

So if you look at what Scripture says in those verses, Deuteronomy 1:13, Exodus 18:21, there's really three general qualifications for godly officials we see here. One, fear of God, two, Christian character, and three, biblical worldview. Now, the best leaders will have all of those. But, in a way, that last one, having a biblical worldview may be the most important because how your view of life, how you think, determines how you act and what laws you pass and how much money you're going to take out of my pocket. There can be people who are sincerely followers of God and fear him, but think like pagans and they'll enact legislation like pagans. And we've had examples of that in the past decades of sincere people wanted to help and do good, but they didn't think right and so they didn't act right. So where, do we get people who think and act right? We have to raise them up in Christian families, raise them up in, churches. We need to produce leaders, ministers of God, not just pulpit ministers, but civil ministers that fear God, that have Christian character and think properly, that understand, understand, biblical view of law and truth and family and Everything else. Now there are many issues that the scripture is very clear about, that we can study and know things like being pro life, protect the unborn, life is valuable. Certainly this is an issue that any Christian would not argue about. Preserve the biblical family. This is very clear as well what the family is and how we should uphold it. Religious liberty, freedom to worship God, public morality. God lays out standards of moral behavior. Protecting family property rights. The Bible teaches that we have a God given right to own property and use that property to be productive. We also clearly see the scripture would teaches the idea of limited government. Jesus taught that he assured Caesar that he had power but that power was limited. When he said render to Caesar that which is Caesar and to God which is God he was declaring Caesar's power is limited. Only God's power is unlimited. Unlimited. And we only submit ourselves to, to God alone, and obey him in all things. Only God, not man. So there's a lot of things that the scripture is clear on in the position that our leaders and we should have. There's other things that we can reason and think and discuss. What does the scripture say regarding these issues and how that we should act. So in future podcasts we will explore our biblical civil duties in much more detail. And as I mentioned earlier if you get my book Ruling over the A Biblical View of Civil Government, we look much more in detail and the purpose of government and positions that we should have. We write about this in many of our books. We have a lot in America's providential history and, and other ones. So I invite you to Visit our website providencefoundation.com that you can read lots of articles and look at videos and look at our new film on biblical view of Educated for Liberty and learn much, much more.

Next week we will look at the seventh idea that has transformed the world

Well that brings us to an end of this podcast and we have one more idea that we need to cover and so next week we're going to take a look at the seventh idea that has transformed the world and is transforming the world today. These ideas and made America a success. So I hope you will join us next week as we finish up this series before we carry, carry on our story of presenting America's providential history. So Visit our website providencefoundation.com and if there are any subjects by the way that you would like me to cover on this podcast, please send me an email infoprovidencefoundation.com let me know if there are some things you would like to be covered and we'll attempt to, schedule that in future podcasts. So God bless you. Hope to see you next week.