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The month of June has been hijacked by the anti Christian culture

>> Jeff Chamblee: The month of June has been hijacked by the anti Christian culture to show their pride in something God calls an abomination. When you support afr, you help us continue to stand for godly values and provide the resources for you to stay in the know about the enemy's tactics. To say thank you for your gift this month we'll give you the booklet inside the LGBTQ push of the 1990s. To help strengthen your convictions, just go to afr.netoffers afr.net offers.

>> Walker Wildmon: We inform religious freedom is about people of faith being able to live out their faith, live out their convictions no matter where they are. We equip sacred honor is the courage to speak truth to live out your free speech. We also rejoice in our sufferings because we know that suffering produces perseverance, perseverance. Character and character hope.

>> Jeff Chamblee: This is At the Core on American Family Radio.

>> Walker Wildmon: Welcome to The Core here on American Family Radio. Glad to have you with us. Glad to be back in the chair after over a week out on vacation. And Rick did a good job. And did we have Fred at all or was it just Rick? Just Rick. Rick the Constitution coach. He's really showing up. Oh yeah, he's showing up. Showing up. Usually we have to get somebody else in cuz Rick's too busy. Rick's traveling. He's traveling. Well, good. We appreciate him. Appreciate Rick filling in and had a little vacation with the in laws. So we had a good time at the beach near the Gulf of America. And so I'm back and done traveling at least for a season.

A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger

Let's turn our attention to the scripture and then we will move into some of our news stories for for the week. Proverbs 15:1. I actually had this passage on the back of my senior jersey, if anybody remembers. Senior jerseys. Had this on the back of my, my high school senior jersey. Proverbs 15, verse 1. A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. And boy, isn't that the truth. How many of you, how many times have you, A situation has become escalated because you did not give a gentle answer, you gave a harsh word, thinking that that was going to solve all your problems. And before you know it, you're in over your head. And so Proverbs chapter 15, verse 1 holds true. A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.

Some of our spiritual heritage trips are full, but we still have some openings

All right, a couple of our trips that we have coming up with A Wildmon group. Some of these spiritual heritage trips that we have coming up, well, some of them are full, but we do still have some openings. I believe there's some seats left for our Washington D.C. tour in September. So my brother and I and my parents will be going to Washington D.C. and Williamsburg in September. And I believe there are still seats available for Washington D.C. actually, Washington's full. I'm sorry. Williamsburg is what I'm thinking about. So if you want to go to Williamsburg with us in September, the dates are September 14th through the 17th. We still have seats available for the Williamsburg portion of the trip. You can join us there in September. Usually it's pretty good weather in Washington area. In Virginia in September, cooler than maybe June. so that's where we'll be in September. Maybe not cool. Cool is probably not a good word. but June's, pretty brutal. Let me just say that, when you go to. So that'll be Williamsburg in September. And then that's the only, seats we have left for the rest of this year for all of our trips. Boston's already full. We have, two buses going to Boston to explore our Christian heritage and providential founding there in the Boston area. And then the next available tours that we have are in March of next year, March of 2026, we're going to both Israel and Greece, with the Greece portion of the trip being a new offering. It's brand new. These are two separate tours. So if you would just want to do Israel or you just want to do Greece, we can completely accommodate that. You can pick which one you want to do. We do have a couple people that are doing both trips, so they're doing them back to back, so that's an option as well. All the information on these trips are [email protected] wildmangroup.com you can go to the tours. Each tour has its own page. You can check out the dates, payment details, etc. And, we look forward to seeing many of you over the next eight to ten months, through the various trips where we educate Christians from America on, God's providential, history, both domestically and of course, over in the land of the Bible, Greece and Israel.

Florida sheriff gives tips on how to deal with leftist protesters

All right, let's jump into some of our clips. I've had this one hanging up in the queue for the last few weeks. But in light of the rioting and the looting and the lawlessness that is brought to you by the Democrat voting base, these, remember, these are hardcore Democrats that are in the Streets rioting and burning things down. I don't see any Republicans, I don't see any Christians, any conservatives that are, stomping on police cars, throwing Molotov cocktails at law enforcement officers, rioting, looting and really losing their mind. this is all brought to you by the Democrat Party. So let's remember that the lawlessness and the chaos is brought to you by the Democrat Party. Why? Because the Democrat Party has no set value system. And this gets into the two party discussion, you look over at the Republican side, don't get me wrong, Republicans don't have it all together. Some of the positions they take are completely unbiblical. but the Republican Party, a large voting block of it is evangelical Christians and others, Catholics. And we actually have some kind of value system out of a scripture. And so we kind of rein in the Republican Party and keep it from going off the rails. Democrats don't have that. Democrats are the party of the pagans. They're the party of lawlessness and they're the party of the God haters. And so it's, it's the wild, wild west. And I mean that about as literal as I can. And so when I, when I describe the Democrat Party as being what it is, it's because there's no moral restraint. This is why I told you after Trump got elected again, that the Democrat Party is not going to be able to rein themselves in the radical nature of their party. By definition, it can't self correct in any way that is moral, virtuous and true because they just don't have that element in their party. And so this is a, Florida sheriff giving us all good tips, especially those who live in Florida, on what to do if your vehicle is surrounded by Democrat anarchist that want to harass, threaten, assault and even kill you. Here's what the Florida sheriff had to say. If you resist lawful orders, you're going to jail. Let me be very clear about that. If you block an intersection or roadway in Brevard county, you are going to jail. If you flee arrest, you're going to go to jail tired because we are going to run you down and put you in jail. If you try to mob rule a car in Brevard county, gathering around it, refusing to let the driver leave, in our county, you're most likely going to get run over and dragged across the street. If you spit on us, you're going to the hospital and in jail. If you hit one of us, you're going to the hospital and jail and most likely get bitten by one of our big beautiful dogs that we have here. If you throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains at, because we will kill you graveyard dead. We're not going to play. This has got to stop.

>> Walker Wildmon: Love it, love it. We need every sheriff. Like, he's bad, that's bad, it's good. I mean, this is the kind of no nonsense stuff you have to have from a law enforcement perspective. I mean, we don't have time to negotiate. We don't have time to be politically correct or to make sure we don't hurt people's feelings. I mean, this is utter lawlessness that's been going on in recent weeks. And you have to clamp down on it. You have to clamp down on it. You cannot allow it to fester. And God created, let's remember, God created government to punish the evildoer. God created government because he knew that man needed restraint. Read the writings of our founding fathers. They knew this. Well, they knew human nature. That's why we have three branches of government. And so this Marxist communist socialist utopia where social workers can walk the streets and make everybody behave is pure fantasy land. There is no instance in the recording of human history going back thousands of years where you can remove the strong arm of government and everything goes great. There is zero examples of that. And so government isn't this neutral, secular man made force that can just exact the will of the ruling leader or leaders. That's not the purpose of government. God clearly instituted government for clear purposes. And our founding fathers in America knew this. And that's why they set up the government the way it did. But our government has restraints. It's not the end all be all. The government's not the church. It's not here to save people. It's not here to counsel people. It's not here to be emotional or to make sure we don't hurt people's feelings or to fix all the world's problems. The government is here to secure life, liberty and property. And that's not just a something found in our documents as a country. But these, these precepts go back to scripture. And so one of the, one of the foundational roles of government is to protect life and property. And that's what the Florida sheriff there is talking about. Hey, how are we as a government, law enforcement, law and order agency going to protect life and property? Well, we're going to do it. And liberty, by the way, because people's rights are being infringed upon. we're going to do it through these means and if it escalates to the point where we have to use lethal force, we're going to do it. And we're not going to think twice. We're not going to think twice because we're not losing an officer or a private citizen because somebody wants to be crazy and break the law. And when you go to states like Oregon and Washington, they they're dealing with this stuff every day, the antifa types. I mean they've got their own block, they run the streets and they, the law enforcement has to deal with this stuff day in and day out. Why? Because the, the leaders are allowing it and it's a disservice, it's an injustice to the law abiding citizens. So that's the Florida sheriff. We need every sheriff to view it that way.

Listen to this irrational emotional nature of this Democrat voter on American Family Radio

Speaking of the irrational nature of the Democrats, listen to this, listen to this elderly, this older, female Democrat voter when being questioned about immigration and President Trump's policies and what she thinks about it, listen to her completely sobbing over the fact that we have a federal government now that is protecting American people, citizens. Listen to this irrational emotional nature of this Democrat voter. Clip 2 I just, I just, I'm just so scared. I'm I'm 74 years old. I worry about everything and I just, I just, I just am so scared and upset and I don't, and I don't understand why people didn't voted for this person. Well, there you have it. Yeah, that was, I know that was hard to listen to, but that's a 74 year old democrat voter, Bobby. And this is just so sad. And, and I don't, I'm not even mad at her, because I, I have sympathy for her because she's allowing President Trump and his policies in his election to cause her to be say, I'm so scared. She's an emotional train wreck. Yes, very much so. But she has no problem with walking out in the middle of the protest, hear all the chanters going on, right? Helicopters flying overhead as security. She ought to be scared because she's in the presence the agitators. Yeah, it's just, but folks, this shows how irrational and I don't really know where, I don't know where this comes from because you can say, well, the media. Well, okay, yeah, I get it. The propaganda and the never Trump and the world's ending if Trump's in charge. I get all that, but folks, this is irrational fear of nothing. This is irrational fear of nothing. And, and I really think, I really have compassion for these, these people because what a way to live. What a way to live. I mean, even when Biden was in charge, it didn't ruin my day. I don't like it. I'm gonna vote against him. I'm gonna do everything I can. Whether it's. We, we went to court multiple times against, against Biden's unconstitutional orders, we'll fight tooth. And now to, to, to reign in government, to restore this country, to share the gospel. But we've gotta have, if we gotta have citizens in this country that are not emotional train wrecks and that are sobbing in the streets because, because our federal government is doing its job. And this is, this is indicative of a large portion of the Democrat voting base. They are emotional train wrecks that are totally overhyping the authority of the president.

>> Jeff Chamblee: At the Core podcast are [email protected] now back to At the Core on American Family Radio.

Christian woman shedding tears over President Trump's policies is beyond me

>> Walker Wildmon: Welcome back to the Core here on American Family Radio. Just to put a bow on my topic in the last segment about the, the woman shedding, a lot of tears over President Trump's administration and his policies. this is the fundamental, if you had to pick something, a, ah, situation to compare and contrast how Christians view government and the society and culture in the world versus how someone who doesn't, who has a more humanist, worldly, temporary, fleshly view of life and government and culture and society. If you had to compare and contrast one example, this is it. This is it. And as I, stated, the Christian might not like its leaders, might not prefer its leaders, might wish things were different, might be trying to make things better. but folks, at the end of the day, we, we know as believers that God is sovereign. And you better bet I'm not shedding tears over a president. I might, I might get angry, I might be mad, right? I might donate to a campaign, are, make sure all my friends are going to vote. But I'm not shedding a tear over a president unless it's maybe George Washington. But, my point is that as a Christian, at least most believers who understand scripture and have the Holy Spirit and wisdom should understand that the things of this world are not the end all, be all. And anybody who knows AFA and myself and the radio show knows that I am the most politically engaged, culturally engaged, news, you know, knowledgeable of what's going on in our country and care about it. But there is so much about life that, has eternal significance that this whole crying over the president is just beyond me. I just don't even fathom how you, why you, how you get to that point. But, the only explanation is that government is God. I mean, that's the only way to understand how a lot of people who just can't seem to keep it together because somebody else is the president and I don't like him and, and, you know, whatever, when you view government as God and government is the end all, be all, then that explains it. That explains it. I mean, there's this emotional attachment to government. It's very, very concerning, actually. and so. But this is the difference between those who view, you know, government as a instrument, as a tool of God that should be stewarded. Well, but it's not salvific. It's not eternal. It's not, you know, it's not going to ensure whether you go to heaven or hell. That's, what Jesus Christ did. And so as believers, we have peace in that and we can come to grips with reality and even things that we don't like and things that we wish were different, but we ought not let these, these things, become emotional and cause us to be irrational, which is what you're seeing a lot of, today. And I can apply that scenario and that example to other aspects of life as well. But we got to keep things in perspective, and understand, what the proper role is of government, of the family and of the church.

Micah Clark served as pro family lobbyist in every state legislative session

All right, let's jump to our guest, a good friend of the ministry, longtime friend of the ministry, and state affiliate director. Micah Clark is with us from Indiana. He's been director of AFA of Indiana, going back to 2001. A longtime friend of my grandfather, Don Wildmon, and, he served as a pro family lobbyist or advocate in every state legislative session, going back to 1991 in Indiana. And so, Micah Clark's with us. Many of our listeners would probably know Micah or heard him through over the years, but. Micah, welcome back to afr.

>> Micah Clark: Well, thank you for having me on. It's great to be on. It just shows I'm getting old with half the 35 years in the legislative session.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, you've been in it a while, so it's age or it's wisdom. You know, there's a couple ways you could go there, but I, I, count your work as, very fruitful, very beneficial, and you've, got a Lot of wisdom, a lot of experience. So that's the upside, to the years.

Micah has been working with American Family Association in Indiana since 1993

But, Micah, give us a little overview. Give us a brief history. I didn't tell you I was going to ask you this, but give me a little history on how you met my grandfather Don, a little bit of your introduction to afa and then we can jump into a couple of these legislative items that you've been working on.

>> Micah Clark: Well, I came out of college, went to work as an intern at the Indiana General assembly in the House, and then I was hired by what's called a Family Policy Council, Focus on the Family Indiana, family institute for 10 years. And then I came over to work with a lady named Vicki Burris with the American Family association of Indiana. And that's when I first met Don and Buddy Smith, another dear friend at afa. And your grandfather was always so generous. Went down to Tupelo several times. I learned more about decency and pornography and the issues of his heart that we were fighting. And he was always so encouraging to our m work here and just a real joy to work with, as has been everybody at AFA staff. But for since 1993, AFA has been Indiana's lean decency organization. But we've also morphed into a more pro family organization dealing with all the different issues, particularly in the public arena in the Indiana General Assembly. And we're blessed in Indiana, to have a part time legislature. You know, it was once said that by a judge back in the 1800s, no, man's life, liberty or property are safe when the legislature is in session. So we, we thank the Lord. We have a part time session which just ended at the end of April. And we got a lot done this session. We had almost a dozen bills that we would call wins. And a lot of times we only have three or four. So we were, I think so that's the Trump effect. We have a Republican super majority. I think they felt like they could do more and they addressed a lot of social issues. And so we took advantage of that and saw a lot of victories this session through the work that we did.

Senate Bill 442 requires school board approval of sex ed curriculum

>> Walker Wildmon: And yeah, yeah, let's talk about Senate Bill 442. I know there's two pieces of legislation that you've worked on this session. But, let's talk first about, SB442, which is the sexual education transparency bill. break that down for us.

>> Micah Clark: Yeah, that's a bill that, is interesting because it's what you would think most school boards are elected would be doing already. But what this simply says is that a school board must review all sex education curriculum brought into the school. School anything not reviewed and approved by a school board cannot be brought into the school. That's where we run into a lot of problems. Elected school board members often just deal with budgetary issues. They have curriculum committees, they're aware of, them. Sometimes they review math and science books, sometimes they don't. But the controversial issue of sex education, which involves morals and values, is where a lot of parents are really upset about things coming in. You know, their child comes home from school and tells them, look, you know, someone showed a film, the teacher showed a film today, or she read a book about homosexuality or something. And the parents are shocked because they didn't know it in advance. So what this bill says is whatever the school chooses to teach, if they teach anything on sex education or human sexuality, the school board, which is elected by the public, must approve it. Which I think will put some guardrails in there. Most school boards who are elected don't want this radical stuff. They don't want to go to the grocery store and have some, someone come up to them and say, why in the world are you teaching about homosexuality? My third grader. So we see that as a guardrail. The other thing about the bill that's important is whatever is approved, a description of it most must be posted on the school website so parents can see it. A lot of parents are intimidated by maybe going, talking to the principal or their teacher, but they can at least see what's going to be taught in that class, what's going to be covered. So it's a transparency issue. You would think everybody would support that. But obviously groups like Planned Parenthood, the LGBT lobby, did not like this. they want to hide these things because they know they're not popular. The average person does not want their child taught about this. Even if they made might not have a problem with homosexuality, which we do biblically and otherwise. medically, they don't really want that, you know, until high school. Yeah, but they want to know about what's being taught. And so this is a preventive measure to make sure parents are aware of what's being taught. So we thought this was a good win for us. Anytime you can shed light on a public school, which is ironic, it's a public school, the public should know what's going on in the public school. But it's amazing what they try to hide in the public school.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. Using our tax dollars to fund operations and the state's tax dollars, to fund the, you know, the districts. And, yeah, absolutely. There should be more oversight. This should be non contro. Yeah, this is a good piece of legislation. And just. Just thinking through this as we're talking, Micah, which usually makes good radio or bad radio, depending on how it goes. But the. I think. I think I was in a sex ed class in probably eighth or ninth grade in Mississippi, and I remember it vaguely. But now that I, as a parent, looking back, Micah, I don't think part of me just says that we ought not be teaching. We don't even need sex ed classes. And I know this is kind of a deeper discussion, but when you think about it as a parent and as an adult, I'm okay with biology class in high school where you learn about the human body and this is how children are conceived and this is how children are born and things like that. Which is. Which is only a portion of the biology. Human biology and the human body. But this sex ed class, I'm just thinking now about it. You go into it and literally all you do is talk about sex. And these are kids. It's like, to me, this should be a topic at the house. The parents, on their timing, talk to their kids about human sexuality in detail.

>> Micah Clark: I'll tell you how bizarre it's gotten, Walker. When I was testifying on this bill, one of the Democrats cross, examined me for quite a while, got very hostile with me. One of the things in the bill, which was the way it was when I was in school. When you were in school, I'm sure we were in. For me, it was sixth grade biology, if I remember right. One day they took the girls in one room and the boys in another, and they talked about sex. That was it. They didn't talk about the whole school year. And this was in that bill that the parents need to know if the kids are being separated, what day it's going to be taught. Who's teaching each class? The boys and girls. This Democrat was upset because the boys and girls were being separated. He couldn't figure out, why would we separate boys and girls? And I said, you know, I don't know that I really want my daughter being taught by a guy about menstruation or other things. There's reasons why parents would want to know who's being taught. He just could not get that through his head. He thought. He said, well, why is that? I said, it's the way it was when I was in school. He goes, well, There you go. I said, well, no, I think there's differences between boys and girls. And that led him up too, of course.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, they have. The reality is they have no. They have no guardrails or, you know, spirit checks about it like. Like believers do. And, and those who understand a biblical worldview, yeah, they have no. They have no kind of framework to guide, their teachings. And so it's like everything's loud. Right? Well, how could you object to that? but, there's a time and a place, an age appropriate setting, and what, they're trying to do is teach this stuff at a younger age and way more necessary and involved than it is required. And, it's the sexualization of our children. I mean, there's no doubt about it. This gets into the LGBTQ agenda.

>> Micah Clark: Yep. We have a section in our code that promotes abstinence until marriage, and the left hates that.

Under our law, that's actually what's supposed to be taught

>> Micah Clark: But under our law, that's actually what's supposed to be taught. Now, there's not enough teeth in it, because we know Planned Parenthood and other sex ed groups don't teach that. They mock that, but that's the model that's supposed to be taught. I think most parents would prefer that, but, it's just the guardrails are gone. We don't know what's going on behind closed doors a lot of times. And this is a way to try and shine the light on that and let people know what's being taught.

>> Walker Wildmon: Absolutely. Hey, we got about two minutes left, Micah.

Indiana Senate Bill 143 protects parents' parental rights against government interference

Once again, we're talking to Micah Clark, executive director over at AFA of Indiana, a longtime affiliate here of American Family association. Senate Bill 143. You guys helped with this. I know Indiana Family Institute took the lead on it, but tell us a little bit about that bill.

>> Micah Clark: Yeah, that's a huge bill we fought for for years. This is a Parental Rights Bill. 19 states have a law like this which simply states that the government cannot substantially burden a parent's right to, the upbringing of their child, the religious instruction of their child, the education of their child, or the health care of their child. And if the government does intervene, they have to have a compelling governmental interest to do that. And if they violate a parent's rights in that area, this bill allows a parent to sue the government, which is not easy to do, but it does hold them accountable. And the government simply has to show, for example, we have an interest in protecting children from neglect. No parents going to sue and say, I want to neglect My child. But if the government comes in and takes away your child for something you're doing in regards like religious instruction, which we've had happen, that's a no, no. There's another bill that went along with it which is the opposite of what Colorado did recently. It says also, which goes along with this bill, that it is not child abuse. It is not neglect for a parent to identify their child by their biological sex. And we thought that was a huge victory scene where the culture is going, where if you misgender your child who's confused, that's not abuse. Because we have children removed by Department of Child Services at times for parents who don't agree with the trans agenda. And we want to protect parents who are trying to raise their kids, take them to counseling, get them spiritual care for that, not go along with that facade and that lie that little Tommy's a girl.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, that's very good. Important legislation and laws on the books, for that. And it's all about protecting the well being of our children. And this is the next generation. And we can't allow them to continue to be victimized by this deviancy agenda that is not victimless. They tried to pitch the whole agenda as victimless. It's only adults engaged in this. But here we are, you know, 10 years removed from Obergfell, and the victimization of children and the sexualization of children is just rampant, from this agenda. Hey Micah, thanks so much for coming on, brother.

>> Micah Clark: Anytime. Thank you, thank you for all the great work you guys do.

>> Walker Wildmon: Absolutely. Thank you, Micah.

Micah Clark: The battle to reclaim Christian ethos and culture continues in Indiana

That's Micah Clark, executive director of AFA of Indiana, longtime affiliate here of American Family Association. And really the boots on the ground, there in the state just doing so much good work. And that's why we like to highlight these state groups, these local groups, that are doing a lot of the heavy lifting. And we're just here to amplify and support their efforts. And it is a team effort. This battle to reclaim the Christian ethos and culture in this nation, continues in. And that's exactly what we're doing. And if you want to find scripture on it, Salt and light. Salt and light is what we should be.

>> Jeff Chamblee: This is At the Core on American Family Radio with your host Walker Wildmon.

>> Walker Wildmon: Welcome back to the Core here on American Family Radio as well. Reminder, you can subscribe to the podcast or follow the podcast, wherever you listen to podcasts, whether it's Apple, Android, Spotify, etc. you can subscribe to the podcast, wherever you listen to podcasts, and we'll cue it up in your library each and every day for your convenience. Jameson Taylor's with us with, AFA Action, and also, doing some government affairs work for American Family association, and a colleague of mine just doing a lot of work on the policy and government side of things. Pretty much everything you hear about policy and government here, on the show is in some way related to, the work that Jamison does.

Jameson: Three things to know about the recent New York City mayoral election

Jameson, the New York City, has recently had a Democrat primary for mayor. And, it's been pretty newsworthy. Tell us a little about those candidates.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: Yes, there are three things to know about the recent New York City mayoral election. The first thing to think about is that this is very, very important. You know, New York City is not just another city. They have a population of more than 8 million people. And what that means is that they have a population more than 38 other states. So, you know, as we're talking politics, we're talking about swing states and which states are the most important and things like that. New York City is bigger, their population is bigger, at least than a lot of states. And so this mayoral race is very, very important in terms of gauging in particular the temperature of Democrats because, it's a Democrat city. And so what's the second thing to think about with this election is that I believe the Democrat Party is now the Democrat Socialist Party. That what they have done is they have, a radical socialists beat out a radical Democrat for, in their primary to go on to the next stage for the mayoral, for the mayoral election. Zoran Mandami, he is hardcore socialist. more and more news comes out about his ties to radical Communists, Marxist socialists, you name it. He is not walking away from that. He is embracing a socialist platform. and this is very important to watch. I think this is a canary in the coal mine for Democrats because what we are seeing, you know, just as we saw that Ronald Reagan worked with reasonable Democrats like Tip o' Neill back in the day, the Tip o' Neills were replaced by radicals like Al Gore, like Hillary Clinton. And what's happening now is those folks are now being replaced by socialists by folks like aoc, by, Gavin Newsom in California. And now we're seeing Mondami in New York City pushing out the old guard. And this is what happens with communism, this is what happens with socialism, because there's always the promise of, hey, the reason that our programs or policies are not working, it's because there's not enough of it. If we really had real socialism, real communism, if we're able to do anything, everything we really wanted to do, then this would actually work. And this is the promise again and again and again with Marxist regimes. You saw it under Mao. So, for instance, he said, you know, the problem is we have these, these moderates that are undermining our revolution. And so what did he do to the moderates? Well, he killed all of them. Same thing happened in the Soviet Union. So what you're seeing in the Democrat Party as they, really officially become the Socialist Party, I think become the Socialist Party, they're pushing out folks that for them are too moderate. Now, who did Mondami beat in the Democrat primary? He beat Andrew Cuomo. And Cuomo is a radical Democrat. He's, you know, full on abortion rights, full on transgender.

>> Walker Wildmon: Wasn't he the governor?

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: Used to be the governor, yeah. So incredible name id.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: I mean, very well funded. And so the thing to think about with this victory is this was a huge upset, but this is the trajectory of the current Democrat Party, which is going to become more and more radical.

>> Walker Wildmon: But, you know, let me ask you, let me, let me ask you more about this. So. And we're, we're getting into a little bit of, of, of guesswork. but it's an opinion show, so, it's politics. Yeah, exactly. this doesn't make sense to me from a. And I'm thinking rationally and, you know, pragmatically from a Democrat perspective, this doesn't make sense to me because they just got clobbered because Kamala Harris is a radical. That's my opinion. And I think the polling probably backs it up. But in New York City, Jameson, they're going, they're digging their heels in. They're like, no, this isn't radical enough. We've got to go more radical. And, it just seems like a loser. Not, obviously it's a loser from a policy standpoint. These policies have terrible ramifications on the human experience and the human rights and human flourishing. But from a selfish, a self, centered type preservation approach is what I'm looking for. This seems like a terrible choice. So what, are they thinking this deep about it or is this all emotional or, are they just like, all in? We're radical and we don't care if we lose elections. It doesn't matter.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: I think, I think it's, it's all that, in particular, the first two. But the bad news and the good news is this. There is a Sifting that is going on. I think the younger generation in particular, they have grown used to living in really what is an artificial world, a fake world, a kind of fantasy world. you have the good news with that is that you do have people that are starting to ask, well, hey, you know, when I look around, all I see are fake marriages, people that don't stay married, same sex marriage, whatever, whatever it may be. When I look around, I see transgenders, I see fake women, fake men, like the, you know, the economy seems fake in a certain respect, like, what is real, what is true? So the good news is that you do have people, especially in this younger generation, that are asking, what is true, what is real? And what they're turning to is conservatism because they're realizing that what they have been taught in school is not true. That there's got to be more to life than all of this. The flip side, though, is an awful lot of people, like the people in New York City, like young people, like families that are, that are struggling to afford housing, they are going all in on the fantasy world. They're going all in on the fake world. Because that is what Mandami is selling as a socialist. He is selling fantasy. He is saying, look, I'm going to make New York City affordable again. I'm going to take care of all of your problems. You can't afford housing. And, you know, never mind that New York City has far and away the highest property taxes of, major American cities. You know, never mind that you have all this red tape that makes housing unaffordable. Never mind all the inflation that the Biden administration created with the build Back better bill. These are the things that are, you know, really making housing and life in New York City unaffordable. He's not going to address any of that. Instead, he's going to have subsidies. He's going to, I, mean, he's allocating millions of dollars for so that adults and minors can get transgender surgeries, free daycare. he wants to have city run grocery stores, you know, somehow, which is, by the way, that is communism right there. Yeah, that, that's communism right there. City run grocery store. All of these things are somehow going to make life more affordable. It's all going to fail. We know that, but he's probably, probably going to be long gone by the time it fails.

>> Walker Wildmon: Well, and as we know, once you, when you consolidate power, taking that back is very difficult.

The more government programs you expand, the less chance of rescinding them

So the more government programs you expand to the likelihood of rescinding those. Those Quote, unquote benefits, that are actually curses. it's really hard to rein that stuff in. And this, this is the goal of the Democrats is flood the zone with programs and money and welfare, understanding that it's hard to pull that stuff back. so the, the current mayor, Eric Adams is running as an independent. And and so technically he could still win the general and beat this, this far, far, far, far lefty. but the fact that he won, this guy won the, the Democrat primary. It shows you where the Democrat voters are, in the primary.

One big beautiful bill defunds abortion providers through Medicaid reimbursements

So Jameson, tell us about this one big beautiful bill we've been supporting it for. Simply, on the fact that that it has some pretty good pro life provisions including a minimum of a one year. Now we're finding out provision that defunds abortion providers through Medicaid reimbursements. that's what we've been supporting it for. But let's talk a little more broadly about it.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: Yeah, that's right. So the one big beautiful bill we saw the House language that came out a couple of weeks ago defunded planned parenthood for 10 years. planned parenthood is roughly getting $700 million in taxpayer provided health care fund through the Medicaid program. through other programs like what's called Title 5 and Title 10. They're getting plenty, plenty of government money. And I think if there's one thing that voters agree on, conservatives, moderates, they don't want their tax dollars going to big abortion providers like Planned Parenthood. So we saw a lot of consensus in the house for this 10 year defund effort. Unfortunately, what we're seeing in the Senate is an effort to roll that back. And so they're, they're starting at a year right now. Now we're going to have to see whether or not that becomes a negotiating point. I think a year is not reasonable. let's look, you know, let's look at three years, let's look at five years, something like that. Ten years is the max that they can do because of some of the rules related to how they are passing the one big beautiful bill. But one year is not reasonable either. One year is not a win for pro lifers. I think people, I encourage people go to our website, afa.net, we have an action alert on defunding big abortion providers in the one big beautiful bill. Reach out to your senators and your congressmen now to tell them, hey, we want full defunding for abortion providers like Planned Parenthood, because when we talk about funding abortion through these government healthcare programs. What people need to realize is that means that there's less money for the people that the programs or four. So, we did it. We did a major study called Displacing the Disabled. What we showed is that even as big abortion providers are getting hundreds of millions of dollars, if disabled people and elderly adults are on waiting lists in about 40 states, they're on waiting lists for Medicaid funded services. And so do you want your tax dollars going to help disabled kids who are waiting, for instance, for a feeding tube, they're waiting for a wheelchair, or do you want your tax dollars going to support big abortion providers? When we're talking about Planned Parenthood? Their annual budget is $2 billion.

>> Walker Wildmon: Give me a break.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: I mean they're getting plenty of money. So it's not, you know, it's not as if they even quote, unquote, need the money.

>> Walker Wildmon: And we're a non. And they're a non. Profit.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: Yeah, they're quote, unquote, non profit.

>> Walker Wildmon: Give me a break. $2 billion.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: You know, what service do they provide in the community? Oh, the service, service we provide is killing people.

>> Walker Wildmon: Right?

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: You know, exactly. So, you know, they're, they're fine with taking funding from the disabled because at the end of the day they offer a product that's aimed at basically killing the disabled.

>> Walker Wildmon: You know, Jameson, on the, on the one year, the degrading, the abortion provider provision where they're not allowed to file Medicaid reimbursements for if you're an abortion provider. that was a parliamentarian decision pretty much. Is what, what it's being blamed on, who it's being blamed on. And the thing with this parliamentarian talk, Jameson, is this is nowhere in the constitution. This, this quote unquote parliamentarian office that was created by the Senate has no legal, binding or constitutional authority whatsoever. I mean it's literally a, A like rule maker that was hired by the Senate, the senators. So the senators are in charge and they're using this parliamentarian as the fall guy. And if we're being politically correct, the fall gal, because it's a lady that was put in place by Harry Reid. She was hired by Harry Reid, hardcore Democrat. I mean this whole blame the parliamentarian. Give me a break.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: Yeah, I mean it's like going to an apartment building and you know, you want to see your, your ex girlfriend or something like that, and she's told the doorman, hey, under no circumstances are you gonna allow this guy in? you know, and so that, you know, argument is, well, you know, I didn't have anything to do with that. Girlfriend says that was a doorman.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, I just. So.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: Yeah, it's just ridiculous. I don't remember anyone running for parliamentarian of the Senate. I don't remember when John Thune, got the job that he lobbied so hard. So hard to get.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: That, you know, they said, well, hey, you can do whatever you want except for what the parliamentarian says that you can do. So that this whole. I think this is just a game. the parliamentarian is doing what the parliamentarian is essentially instructed to do. John Thune is fine with the decisions that the parliamentarian is making. And what I've argued all along is that the one big, beautiful bill. This is a 1000% Republican bill. The good in it, the bad in it. 1,000 Republican percent. They can't blame the parliamentarian. They can't blame the Democrats.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, I'm so tired of it. And I know you are, too, Jameson.

Jameson: The whole parliamentarian office should be shut down

The blame game and the settle for less. I mean, give me a break. This is so dumb. I mean, this is like milquetoast. They're so milquetoast, and everything's got to be mediocre. Is like, no, look, the Democrat socialists in New York, they said. They've looked at everybody and said, hey, we're all in. Right? Because we believe in the cause. And the Republicans in the center are like, we're not all in, and we really don't believe in the cause, and we're gonna blame the parliamentarian. I mean, the whole parliamentarian office should be shut down. I mean, it's not in the Constitution. It's not. It has no legal precedent as far as binding precedent. Like, the parliamentarian doesn't go to court. The parliamentarian isn't sued. there's no. I mean, it's. It's. It's such a faux process in office. It's a. It's quite laughable. So, yeah, I agree. We've got to extend that. Planned Parenthood and abortion provider defunding out several years, if not five to 10. All the other provisions in the bill go out 10 years, Jameson. So, like, the spending levels, the Pentagon funding, the border wall. I mean, a lot of these programs that they're meddling with, go out at least ten years. Five, to ten years. So to say we can't do the abortion provider provision out to 10 years is being disingenuous. at. At least. Jameson, thanks so much.

>> Dr. Jameson Taylor: Thanks for having me on.

>> Walker Wildmon: All right, appreciate it.

Preborn is fighting to defund abortion providers for 10 years

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