Numbers 34, 35 & 36: The Cities of Refuge
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Bert Birdie: We're coming to the close of the Book of Numbers
>> Bert Harper: Welcome to Exploring the Word. We're coming to the close of the Book of numbers, chapters 34, 35 and 36. 34 has the borders, 35 has the city of the Levites, including the cities of refuge. And then finally verse 30, chapter 36 is kind of unusual. It's just dealing with an issue and the year of jubilee and what will happen to the land. So we welcome you to Exploring the Word. Birdie. Alex here today. And again, Alex, it's been a joy going through the Book of Numbers. And again, right in the middle of chapter 35 we're introduced. And we'll go back to 34amoment. But right in the middle of chapter 30, 35, we're introduced to something that is just one of the greatest teachings, I think, in the Old Testament. The cities of refuge. So in the Book of Numbers, this is what you get chapter 34, you get the borders and yeah, that's important, but, you know, it's not. Oh wow, that's awesome. But when you come to chapter 35 and you read about the cities of Levites and dimensions of what they're to get, but right in the middle of it, it talks about the cities of refuge. I think when we get there, I think we'll see Jesus Christ is our refuge, isn't he?
>> Alex McFarland: Well, amen, that is true. And Bert, it's good to be with you and good to be in the Book of Numbers. You know, as we've gone through this, I've just been reminded how this is an important part of God's word that, I'm not going to say it gets neglected, but if you were asking a lot of pastors, what would be some of your go to scriptures to get preaching material? Numbers might not be their first choice always, but, there's so much in here that is good history, the order of God, the very structured plan he had for Israel. But yes, there's a lot of gospel truth, as you mentioned, really allive. Chapter 34 are the boundaries and the partitioning off of the promised land, the allotments of the promised land. But, talking about the cities of refuge here, okay, Genesis 9, 6. Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man, his blood will be shed. The Bible, has at least in the Old Testament, ah, capital punishment for convicted murderers, which actually shows the value of human life. but there is also, Bert, we have in Western, law, something that comes right out of the Bible right here, something called due process. And for those that are accused awaiting trial, there were the cities of refuge that they could safely be, well housed and protected while they were awaiting trial, just so they wouldn't maybe become the victim of, revenge at the hands of a lynch mob. the cities of refuge, like verse 12 of chapter 35, so that the manlayer does not die until he stands trial. This, aff. Fair and speedy trial, due process, equal protection before the law. This comes right out of God's word, doesn't it?
>> Bert Harper: It really does. And we find out what those cities will be in the Book of Joshua. I said yesterday, if you want to. Not that Alex and are, are necessarily going to the book of Joshua next, but if you wanted to continue the story, you'd go to Joshua and you'd see that. And these cities of refuge are to be named later. And, so that's good. And these cities of refuge, Alex, are part of the Levitical cities. In other words, the Levites did not inherit any portion of the land, but they were to be a part of land that would be included around certain cities. And it gives the. The dimension. And out of these cities, the Levites, you have the cities of refuge. In other words, the word of God being the Levite, should know the Bible. They should be a part of it. They should be a part of what he is judged. And they would become part of the leadership there in those cities, so that when that, avenger of blood would come and accuse, the person that he has been tracking and found him at the city of Refuge, and now he brings him before, quote, the court or the elders of the city, to have this new process. And it was there that was. I thought that was significant. In other words, these cities should have a biblical base, A, biblical authority from the Old Testament, knowing what God's word says.
Do you think God's word helps us to make good judgments, Alex
I want to ask you this. Do you think God's word helps us to make good judgments, Alex?
>> Alex McFarland: Oh, absolutely. In fact, if we're wise, we will not, only shape our plans, but, temper our reactions based on God's word. And, let's read a little bit here because it's very powerful for what we would call Western law. And certainly, well, like we say, due process, but chapter 35, there are inheritance of the land for the Levites and It kind of transitions verse six of.
>> Bert Harper: Let me make this statement. There's 48 of the cities of Levite's. I thought that was interesting. Yes, go ahead. Now I just.
>> Alex McFarland: And there's going to be six cities of refuge and presumably eight cities for every one of the cities of refuge, like you say, for a total of 48. the cities given to the Levites. All the cities which you shall give to the levites shall be 40 and 8 cities, them shall you give with their suburbs. Verse 7. Now that's a modern sounding word, suburbs. And it's in the Bible.
>> Bert Harper: Are you reading from the King James Version?
>> Alex McFarland: Yes sir.
>> Bert Harper: Now I want to tell you that's pretty neat. go ahead.
>> Alex McFarland: at 414 years the king James Bible has been out and here's this word, suburbs. And the cities which you shall give shall be of the possession of the children of Israel. From them that have many you shall give many, but from them that have few you shall give few. And everyone shall give of his cities unto the Levites according to his inheritance which he inheritedth. Hey Bet, let me just say something right quick and I'll divert about the legal, wonderful legal truth here. Every now and then there are more left leaning Christians and they'll say, oh, you're going to secure the borders, but what about caring for the stranger in your land? And here in verse eight, sometimes those that very, I think misguidedly try to use the Bible to promote Marxism, which is wrong. They'll say, well look, here's the law about giving, those who have few should get from those who have many. May I remind you about the stranger in the land and you were sojourners in Egypt and about being fair with all the family members. This is instruction to ancient Israel. this is about dealing with Levites and members of Israel going into the promised land. So a lot of what God tells Israel about, portions of land and about food and livestock, I don't think we should take that as normative for how in a free market economy, we act today because these were at least on the land and the inheritances, these were some very specific things that were given to the Israelites at that moment in time.
>> Bert Harper: It is exactly right. And remember God had given a double portion to Joseph, his two sons Ephim and Manasseh, and that left Levi. If they had to give them, they'd be 13, but it's 12. And taking Levite, he's getting his and it's deserved. Alex, it's not like it's something that, okay, this is, Marxism. No, these are deserved because m. They have their position in that society and this is where it works. And so just as God was given the land to the 12 tribes and it be equally proportioned to the larger the tribe, the larger the land, the smaller the tribe, the smaller the land. And that was the way it would be. And with the Levites, they would have these cities and on outside of the cities they had their place to live.
>> Alex McFarland: Notice was, go ahead, forgive me. and what the Levite's got was about 15 square miles or 1/10 of one of the cities.
>> Bert Harper: Exactly.
>> Alex McFarland: It S kind of a tithe.
>> Bert Harper: It was that. But they were to raise their own cattle, they were to raise their own. And that's what it says. So they would have room to put their part. It wasn't just you know, they were still working.
>> Alex McFarland: Okay, Amen.
>> Bert Harper: And so that's the whole idea. It's still a work ethic. And that's. And what socialism does and Marxism does, it takes away the work ethic. What it is, it's the take ethic.
>> Alex McFarland: Okay, exactly. Exact it is. and how is it just to forcibly confiscate what one man earns and give it to someone who didn't earn something?
Bert says Exodus gives clear boundaries on life and punishment
But Bert, I was very interested in reading like nine and following concerning, when you come over into the Jordan, in the cities, laws concerning murder, they shall be unto you cities of refuge for the avenger that the manslayer die, not until he stand before the congregation and judgment. And of these cities which you shall give, six cities shall you have for refuge three cities on this side of the Jordan, three cities on the other side. Bert, let me talk about this up through verse 28. It lists if someone is killed by various weapons, an instrument of iron, or throwing a stone or a weapon of wood, or someone thrust through like, presumably with a spear, or if an enemy smites someone with his hand, that he die, he will be a murderer. there's all these things. Here's my point. Know the weapon doesn't make a, murder right now this is not self defense or fighting an army as national defense. Sadly, but 1440 B.C. roughly the time of the Exodus, human nature is as it is now. Sometimes people, unjustly take the life of another human. That's called murder. But even though there would be the death penalty for a convicted murderer, somebody would stand trial. One other thing that I would say is like in verse 30, whoso killeth any person. The murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses, plural. But one witness shall not testify against a person to cause him to be executed. In other words, if it was a capital crime and the death penalty was going to be administered, they needed more than one witness, presumably because, somebody could do it out of revenge and the person might be wrongly convicted.
>> Bert Harper: That's exactly right, Alex. And there's a way. Did they die accidentally or was it purposely? It says line in weight. The murder. If it was lying in wait, the murder, the requirement was the death of that person if they found him guilty. But if it was accidental, they had a punishment. Because you should be more careful than just throwing a stone and not watching where you're doing it. And it hit someone and they die. Well, they have killed that man. But t that person doesn't die. He has to stay in the city of refuge until the high priest dies. And that is according to that. If he gets out of that city of refuge during that period of time.
>> Alex McFarland: Alex, he's on his own.
>> Bert Harper: He's on his own. And so I love this. This is, I would say, boundaries in chapter 34 concerning the land. But here you have the boundaries of life and punishment. So the whole idea here is God demonstrating to these people, say there's a system of governance that you need to have. And what do they do? He gives them this before they go in and occupy the land. So they'll be ready. Well, we're going to continue with the city's refuge when we come back. You don't want to miss that. We're going to give, some information. I think it'll bless you. So stay tuned for more here on Exploring the Word. I want you to picture this. Her name is Kayla. She is 17, alone, terrified and pregnant. Sitting in a clinic, tears blurring, thinking abortion is her only option until she was offered a free ultrasound, paid for by a hero just like you. The moment Kayla heard her baby's heart beat, the decision was made. And today, her little baby boy, Gabriel, is thriving because a preborn walked with Kayla every step of the way. Now multiply that by 38,000. That's how many babies preborn has helped save just this year. How many mothers preborn has come alongside with practical and spiritual resources to make motherhood possible. But here's the most important thing you will hear today. Their goal is to save 70,000 by the end of the year. And they can't do it without us. Every $28 provides the ultrasound. The moment everything changes, will you be the reason the next Kayla chooses life. The reason Gabriel fulfills his destiny.
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>> Caroline: Stand here on shame. It's not because I'm worthy. It's all because of mercy.
>> Bert Harper: There's no way that I could earn it.
>> Caroline: Praise God, my debt is paid.
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>> Alex McFarland: Well, and let me just say, and I mentioned yesterday, there is, it's a comic book form. They call it graphic novel, but I mean, it is world class. And in there it tells the story of Jesus and how you can know the Lord. But then there are the verse references. turn to this chapter and, it gets kids into the word of God. And so we love the truth for youth Bibles. And, again, the number, to give a Bible is 800-733-4737, or TFY as in truthful youth, tfy.org. Bert, we're in numbers 35. And really our journey through this important book of the Old Testament is kind of drawn to a close.
Bible verses talk about justice being blind and fairness in trials
So it talks about, that if someone is in the city of Refuge awaiting a fair trial, that he is to stay there and not leave. And I mentioned before the break that, if it was going to be a conviction resulting in the death penalty, there had to be more than only one eyewitness. And in the Western world, and this goes back a thousand years literally to, the Magna Carta, British common law, Scottish common sense realism, the Judeo Christian representative republic that came to characterize America. But this orderly, fair jurisprudence that it, avenges the life of one murdered, but it also deals humanely and fairly and, forthrightly with the accused. This comes right out of the Bible. I mean, it really does. And one other thing. Let me read verse 31. It says, moreover, you shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death. And you shall take no satisfaction for him that has fled to the city of refuge. Now, it doesn't mean like, satisfaction in the sense of, boy, I'm glad he got what was coming to him. But it really meant a ransom. A couple of things. you couldn't bet on the probable execution of somebody like that. And you couldn't basically pay off somebody to exonerate them. Ransom or satisfaction was something of value. Bet, nobody should be above the law because they've got a lot of money. Nobody should be above the law because they've got, somebody that would vouch for them. and you can't pay to. Let's say you wanted somebody to get executed. You couldn't buy that. Basically, verses 31 and 32 are about justice being blind. In other words, justice being fairly administered to all involved.
In Joshua, chapter 20, you'll find six cities of refuge
>> Bert Harper: One more thing about the city's refuge, and then we'll go to the next chapter. Again, they don't name them because they haven't settled the land. But In Joshua, chapter 20, you'll find these six cities. Now, the important part, they've already said it here in chapter 35. Three on one side of the river, three on the other side. And this lets you know that R. Reuben, Gad and half a tribe on Manasseh. Just because they're on the east side of the river does not diminish God's legal society in operating in this fair manner. And so, here's the cities, and you'll find them in Joshua. And I want to say a word about it, and then we'll go on. It's Kadish. That's the one. It's on the west side, and it's further north. Shechem is on the west side, and it's in the middle. And then Hebron is on the west side, and it's the featherest south. Now, this is interesting. Kadish means holy place. Shechem means strong shoulders. And then Hebron means fellowship. When you see that, you'll see some of the similarities of Jesus. And he's our refuge. Now, on the east side again, that's where Ruben Gad and a half a tribe In Manasseh Golan, which is the place that's further north. And if that sounds familiar, Golan Heights. Yes, that's where it is. Or Ramath Gilead, you'd hear that. That's in the middle. And Bazaar, that's in the southern part. So they're centrally located. So it's a. They tried to put it where they could get there in a day's journey. They were centralized so that they would have the possibility of getting there quickly from where they were. Now, again, Golan means place of captivity. And then Rayoth is a high place. he's high and lifted up. And then Bar. Bar is the hiding place. Alex. Each one of these I just love. Again, the cityities of refuge. We learn so much from them. But even by their names, which you usually, Or you do that so well. But I found these interesting as well. The cities, a refuge. 6. Three of them on one side, three of them on the other. So I don't think that Reuben, Gad and Manasse, just because they said we'd like to settle here. They did go into the land and they helped settle it. They fought the battles, and then they came back and settled this land here. I think God says, okay, I'm going toa grant you this. This is good for you. And he took them and gave them protection as well. Alex.
>> Alex McFarland: Amen. Amen.
Chapter 36 of Exodus talks about how and what females would inherit
Well, there's a lot in numbers about the people, the whereabouts, the amounts, but also inheritances. And it closes out in chapter 36 with some, really laws about how and what females would inherit. Bert. There was a concern about family names dying out. Really. And you know that if, a man would die that had no sons, his land would pass to other members of the family. Now, there are some exceptions. If the daughters. Let's say a man had daughters, but they married other people than Israelites. Right.
>> Caroline: Really?
>> Bert Harper: Even people other than people from their own tribe? Yeah, because.
>> Alex McFarland: Well, that's true.
>> Bert Harper: Yes. Yes, it was. Go ahead.
>> Alex McFarland: Whether it be to marry outside the tribe of, an, Israelite, or married non Israelites themselves. So it's taken. And when the jubilee of the children of Israel shall be, then shall their inheritance be put unto the inheritance of the tribe whereino they are received. So shall their inheritance be taken away from the inheritance of the tribe of our fathers. One thing. Land didn't stay in any one family's hand forever if they didn't have sons and meet the requirements. Let me apply this to our own, life. What? This is not. This is not an Argument against personal property ownership. What it is saying, though, Bert, because land, very much a promised land, represented their covenant with the God of Israel and heaven. Here's the thing. Personal ownership of land. it points to personal relationship. do you have a home in heaven? I mean, really, it's like, how much do you have here? That might be one thing. How much, if anything, do you have over there in heaven? Moses commanded the children of Israel according to the word of the Lord, saying, the tribe of the sons of Joseph hath said, well, this is the thing which the Lord doth command concerning the daughters of Zelofi had. And by the way, that means rupture, Zelofi had, saying, let them marry to whom they think best. Only to the family of the tribe of their father shall they marry. So shall not the inheritance of the children of Israel remove from tribe to tribe. For every one of the children of Israel shall keep himself to the inheritance of the tribe of his fathers. Well, Bert, even now we have a. We teach young people, if you're a Christian, marry a Christian. Don't marry out. They were saying, don't marry outside the family tribe. I would say, don't marry outside the family of God.
>> Bert Harper: Amen.
Bert says Theodore Roosevelt gave guidelines to prevent land monopolies
Alex, let me share one other thing. I think, do you remember one of the things that, Theodore Roosevelt, our president. Former president, was famous for?
>> Alex McFarland: Well, there are a lot of things. the, let's see. Let me.
>> Bert Harper: What about the monopoly buster? The one that woulde.
>> Alex McFarland: That's true. That's true.
>> Bert Harper: Okay. What this is. And I read that, and I got the same thing you did, but I said's strikebreaker too. Yes. Let's think of the land here. It was keeping the land from someone having such a monopoly on it that they would control it all. Like, this man had a lot of sons, and he would send to Mary those daughters, and it would go to the sons, and then they would be a greater amount of that. And it was not because he earned it. It was just because of the inheritance of it. And so here I see these guidelines setting it up again. It's not, socialism, M. but it's limits. It's like the free enterprise. If you have unlimited, with no boundaries and free enterprise, you're gonna have trouble because man is basically evil. So here he gives these guidelines to keep this from monopolonizing this so much. Alex, you catch what I'm saying? On, the year of jubilee, it would go back to the way it was so that you still have private ownership and it being demonstrated, but you also have that. Okay, let's watch out. we can't let one, be so powerful that the others are forgotten. But it still keeps in the idea of a free enterprise.
>> Alex McFarland: Bert, that is brilliant that you remembered that. That is really true. Because people, parents, like in a chess game, could arrange marriages and monopolize the ownership of the land. And, their instructions are given here. I'm going to read 13, then 12. These are the commandments and the judgments which the lord commanded by the hand of Moses unto the children of Israel in the plains of Moab by Jordan, near Jericho. So this 36 chapter book was really given when they were shortly into this journey. But it says that, every one of the children of Israel shall keep himself to the inheritance of the tribe of his father. in 12, it uses the word remain. But burrt think of the concept of keeping oneself. the Bible talks about keeping oneself unspotted from the world. The bible says keep our vows to God. Listen, folks, I don't know if you'll ever own land. Maybe you will, maybe you want. I don't know what your economic and family status this side of eternity is, but the principle is here of keeping yourself for the one who saved you, gave you life, the one who keeps you. Bert. life, we often say life is a stewardship, really before our savior, the way we live. It's a covenant before our God and savior, isn't it?
>> Bert Harper: It really is. And you wa wantna make sure that it's a relationship with the Lord. They were talking about relationships here. The relationship you wantna know for certain is your relationship with God through Christ Jesus. We're gonna take phone calls. That number trip 885-898-8840. If you have a Bible question, we'd love to hear it. Today here on exploring the word. If we lose this cultural war, we're.
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>> Bert Harper: M He is worthy of all our praise Only Jesus, you remember the transfiguration? Peter had the good idea. Let's build 3tern while we're here while we don't do that. And then all of a sudden, Moses and Elijah weren't there anymore. There was only Jesus. And I, hope it's only Jesus in your life as your savior and Lord. Well, Alex, that phone number, if you want to have a Bible question, we got people waiting. We're going to go there quickly. Is TR 885-89-8840. But real quickly, let remind everybody this is National Truth for Youth Bible Week. If you would receive a Bible and by calling 8007-3347-3780-0700-334737 or go [email protected] you'll get a Bible. It will be free. The only thing you need to do is take it to school and give it away if you're between the ages, 13 and 18. So please do that. Our goal is 65,000. This is a 25th year. We've combined with revival, Fires International. The number again, 800-733-4737. Or go online at TFY. Well, Alex, you ready to go to the phone lines?
>> Alex McFarland: Let's do it, folks. The number toll free, if you've got a Bible question is 888-589-8884. TR 885-89884. And, Bert, where shall we begin today?
William in Ohio has a question about watching soap operas
>> Bert Harper: Let's go to William in Ohio. William, thank you for calling.
>> Caroline: Thanks for having me. Can you hear me all right?
>> Bert Harper: Yes, sir, loud and clear. Thank you.
>> Caroline: I had a question. It might sound a little unusual, but, I'm not trying. Before I forget, I was going to mention Alex's dog. I'd heard that he gives away free books, you mentioned.
>> Alex McFarland: Yes, there is extra credit for Esther related content. I'll tell you. Let's see. We don't always do, but we're going to do do it today. And here's Esther's picture on the Internet. The world's greatest. If you give Brent your address. I can't always do it, but I have a book coming your way, sir, for.
>> Caroline: Yes, I appreciate it. Bless you, but thank you.
>> Alex McFarland: What's your. What's your question, sir?
>> Caroline: The question is, I'm not trying to find excuse for sin or anything, but just wondering, how do you differentiate or how do you explain to someone the difference between a clear command or a prohibition in the Bible? And then obviously, if you do that, it's sinful. But what about the suggestions or the exhortations or warnings in the scripture, where it's, It's not maybe necessarily prohibited? Per se, but it would be unwise or foolish to do it. And if one did that, you know, would it be sinful? and I kind of know sort of the answer, but'm just kind of curious.
>> Bert Harper: Help, William. Thank you. Let's give two examples. Alex. We'll try to do it quick because we're getting a lot of phone calls today. We want to get to as many as we can. I think alcohol is a good way. The Bible commands not to be drunk. Drunkenness is sin. The Bible. But over in the book of Proverbs, you find some suggestions and even warnings, and it says he does. That is unwise. Another thing that came up, William, is eating feet, eating, meat offered to idols. Again, there's qualifications for that. There's nothing illegal, nothing wrong with that. But Paul said, I, need to put some guidelines. And he suggests if eating that kind of meat would, cause your brother to stumble, not to do that. Alex, you think of anything else or add to those that would help William.
>> Alex McFarland: you know, I think everybody needs to be very, in touch with the promptings of the Holy Spirit. Romans 14:23. This is very convicting. Whatever is not of faith is sin. In other words, if your conscience is uneasy about something. Bert, you don't hear this so much anymore, but I remember early in my ministry when I was a youth pastor at Friendly Avenue, and of course, this was, you know, 25 plus years ago, but, a lady came forward to pray one Sunday, and she said, I'm convicted. I've been watching these soap operas, and it's a waste of time, and they're getting more and more, you know, inappropriate, and I'm sinning, and I want to repent of watching the soap operas. Now, a lot of people won't know what a soap opera is, but there used to be on afternoon tv. And, you know, she was convicted about that and decided to stop doing it. Well, I'm not saying that everything has to be normative for everybody. I mean, there's some things. Lying and murder and immorality and like you say, drunkenness. We know all that. Maybe, okay, watching sports on tv, that's pretty harmless entertainment to watch the baseball game or the football game. But if it dominates your life, you might feel convicted about it. And, Bert, when the spirit of God gives conviction, I think we have to do some serious steps of obedience.
>> Bert Harper: Am I right, Alex? You said it. And it's true. That which is not a faith is sin. So we trust God in the Areas of. I don't know if I should or not. When it comes to doing something might. The common. I would say the common thought is don't do it, you know, and, that would be wise, William. We hope that helps. And we stay online. We gotta get your address. So put him on hold and, Yeah, got him on hold.
>> Alex McFarland: We're gonna send him 100 questions. the Brown book, the first one, that's about four and a half years.
>> Bert Harper: Ago, because he mentioned Esther the wonderdog. Let's go to Luke in Alabama. Luke, go right ahead.
>> Caroline: Hey, thank y'all for having me.
>> Bert Harper: Yes, sir.
>> Caroline: so I hear if I mention Esther, then I get some bonus points.
>> Alex McFarland: But we only do one a day.
>> Caroline: Oh, man, I'm glad I don't have a dog.
>> Bert Harper: Okay, go ahead, Luke.
Alex: Does this mean all Christians are reborn into a greater nation of Israel
>> Caroline: All right, so, in Deuteronomy, chapter seven, it's talking about how you, are a people holy to the Lord, and the Lord has chosen you out of all the people on the earth. And it's talking about the nation of Israel. later on in 1 Peter, chapter 2, it's then referring to Christians, and it's saying, once you were not a people, but now you are God's people. So my question is, as Christians, we are the sons and daughters of God. Does this mean that all Christians are reborn into a greater nation of Israel, or is there still a need for a physical Israel?
>> Bert Harper: The need of physical Israel has to do with God's promise and God's plan. So there is a need. What is the greatest one to be a part of it would be. And I'm gonna put his kingdom, his church, because the Jewish nation, those of it can be. And those Gentiles can be. Alex, would you answer that differently or expand on that?
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, I love to preach on that first Peter. Well, I love to preach on one and second Peter. Anyway, I just absolutelylute.
>> Bert Harper: If you don't read those, take time to do it and study it, it will help you.
>> Alex McFarland: You know what a beautiful thing God was doing? He raised up Israel. And within Israel were priests. But the body of Christ, the church are a kingdom of priests. Now, that means a number of things. For one, that yes, we can pray directly to Jesus. We don't have to go through an intermediary because he is our mediator to God. But the other thing is that we, the church, every born again believer is an evangelist to a lost world, Bert. God's church, in all of her localities, America, Europe, India, South America, throughout the world, the church, we are the Priests calling out to the human race be reconciled to God now. But there is. Even though Galatians 6:16 says Blessed be the Israel of God and that speaking of all born again believers, nevertheless there still is a physical nation of Israel. Romans 3:3 Paul says that the promises of God are still in effect and Romans 9. So, let me say this. It's both and not either or. It's the kingdom of priests that we call the born again body of Christ. But yes, there is Israel. And that's why birrt eye. I think that all Christians, all churches, and certainly the good old USA we should stand with and for the nation of Israel.
>> Bert Harper: I believe with all my heart. Let me say this. Israel becoming a nation again. 1948. What they've done, it should add iron to you spiritual blood. When you read the Bible, Alex, you know, they were dispersed, you know, 1900 years, at least close to 2000. And then God bring them back.
>> Alex McFarland: It's a miracle.
>> Bert Harper: It is. It's unheard of.
>> Alex McFarland: It. There's nothing comparable in all of human history.
>> Bert Harper: There is not. And it is. And if you see that, you see man, God is awesome. He really is. And he's not through yet. Praise God.
Shel Shel calls to thank AFR for helping him purchase youth Bible
Let's go to Shell in Mississippi. Is that right? Shell?
>> Caroline: That's correct. How are you today?
>> Bert Harper: Doing good. Thank you for calling today.
>> Caroline: Yep. I wanted to thank you guys because I ordered the truth for youth Bible and I am going to pass it on to my chiropractor. I asked him about whether or not he would be interested in it. He has some children that are 12 and 14 or 15 and I thought that, you know, that would be. He said he would be more than willing to look at it and you know, maybe pass it on to his children and then his children maybe pass it on to some of their children.
>> Alex McFarland: So God bless you.
>> Caroline: Thank you very muchen. Let you know that.
>> Bert Harper: Amen.
>> Alex McFarland: Good on.
>> Bert Harper: You know, praise the lord. Keep it up and may your tribe increase. So those of you that's heard this, do what Shel did and make that call. get online and get it and say no, it's concentric circles just like that pebble in the lake. So thank you Sheelll You've blessed us today. Let's go to Texas and talk to Jerry. Jerry, thank you for calling.
>> Caroline: Hey. Hi Burrt and Alex. I try to listen to you guys every day and the rest of the AFR. 4:00, 6:00. So thanks for your program.
>> Bert Harper: Thank you brother.
>> Caroline: Thank you in reference to the wilderness of pen.
Jerry: The Hebrew scriptures, there's no vowels when translating
Now, before I get to the actual question, I know that Hebrew is tough to read and that it's kind of like reading a text message, especially when he goes to the. The Hebrew scriptures, there's no vowels. You're just supposed to infer from the consonants what the word is. Like you had the letter C and T, you'd have to infer whether it's the letter, whether the word cat or cut or cat. So I understand that we're missing those vowel points and things when it comes to translating scriptures, but we've also got, you know, great translations now since the 1800s and the formation of Israel. And, you know, it'correct Hebrews kind of come back from being a dead language. Is that kind of correct?
>> Alex McFarland: yeah. Well, it was never completely dead. Like, maybe some of the other languages. but thank the widely.
>> Bert Harper: Right? Y. Yeah, you're right on that, Jerry. Go ahead.
>> Caroline: Is if we now have better understanding of how to read the Hebrew and translate, how can we still have misperceptions when it comes to naming? I kind of say that in reference to the wilderness has sin, because the word S N is actually in Hebrew pronounced being. So it doesn't really mean sin as we think about sin. And likewise, you know, the letter S, it has a little dot you put above it. It's either the dot or the jot or the tittle that you heard about.
>> Bert Harper: Right.
>> Caroline: Letter from, s to sh and, the letter E and D are both the same letter, depending on whether it's got a dot in the middle of it. The same thing with the letter P. Let's try to.
>> Bert Harper: Alex, you want to take a stab at this?
>> Alex McFarland: And. Okay, there are six wildernesses that are mentioned in the Book of Numbers that the Israelites were going through. And there was Zen with a Z and sin with or seen or sign. Ethan, Peran, Sinai. All right, sin. It doesn't mean sin like a moral failure we would think about. In fact, do you know what they think about the wilderness of sin? S IIN may have been a reference to a false God that was worshipped by local deities. and we talked about that in some length yesterday, that it was not to be. Although wandering off into sin, you'll be in the wilderness. But we made it clear, pretty clear yesterday that that was not what that was to be construed as. You remember, Bert?
>> Bert Harper: Yes, we did. And listen, that's the reason some, of the more, I would say translations, clarity is understood better. And some of it is because of translation, but many of it is just the changing of the meaning of the word. But these locations. Yes. You know, have you ever heard there's not a certain way to pronounce a proper name? You know, and it gets pretty difficult in knowing that. So, Jerry, you're right on so many of that that some clarity is helpful in those situations. Thank you for calling David in Mississippi. Go right ahead. David.
>> Caroline: yes, sir. Can y'all hear me?
>> Bert Harper: Yes, yes.
>> Caroline: yes, sir.
Steve: I had a question for Brother Alex about the tabernacle
I was just, I had a two part question for Brother Alex. I was studying the other day and I believe it was in Book of Numbers where the Lord had the children of Israel, the different tribes positioned around the tabernacle. And I know the tabernacle entnce of the tabernacle face the east, and I was just wondering if Brother Alex had ever studied really the positioning of those, of the tribes and the second part of that is what recon. Why the Lord placed Judah at the east at the same where, the tabernacle entrance was.
>> Alex McFarland: you know, east. The direction of east has a lot of significance in the Bible, for one. very, very often when they were traveling, it would be eastward toward Jerusalem and of course that eastern sky, where Christ is going to return one day. I've not really studied all that much about the placement of the tribes around the tabernacle. And Bert. Yeah, I don't know, if there is all that much clarity about it. Some of it is about military preparedness and being ready for wars.
>> Bert Harper: Yeah, a lot of it. The front and the back were the most vulnerable and that's where he placed the larger tribe. Okay. Now I know that, but each three on each side. But again, they were to travel in this manner. But you did have it, it sounded to me, I'm sure there's a spiritual meaning. I'm not discounting that, but I look at also the practicality of it, the largeness of it, the strength of it, front and back where they would be the most vulnerable. David, thank you. Steve, sorry I didn't get to your question, but tomorrow's going to be a special day for exploring the Word. if you'll tune in at the beginning, you're going to hear something you've never heard before in the introduction. So we want you to stay tuned for more programming on afr, but be sure and tune in tomorrow for exploring the Word.
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