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Jenna Ellis: Rights that our founders recognize come from God our creator

 : Jenna Ellis in the morning on American Family Radio.

 : I love talking about the things of God. Because of truth and the biblical worldview, the U.S. constitution obligates our government to preserve and protect. The rights that our founders recognize come from God our creator, not our government. I believe that scripture in the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raised up each of you and God has allowed us to be brought here to this specific moment in time.

Jenna Ellis: The condition of the American family remains deeply sobering

 : This is Jenna Ellis in the morning,

Jenna Ellis: March 31st and the beginning this week of Holy Week, which will of course culminate in Good Friday and then the blessed hope of Easter Sunday morning. I love how my church here in Florida, for those of you who've been listening for the last several years, know how my church in Florida, does our Easter services, we go on Good Friday, to the, right up to the moment of Jesus's death on the cross and then say, but Sunday is coming. And then, everyone just quietly leaves and it almost feels like a funeral procession. And then gather at sunrise, Sunday morning to celebrate, the truth of the resurrection of Christ. And Troy Miller, our good friend who is the president of the National Religious Broadcasters, wrote a really excellent article that you need to read in Newsmax this week. It's titled Nation Strength Grounded in Strong Families. And he begins that the condition of the American family remains deeply sobering as Holy Week of course begins in 2026. Decades of radical individualism, no fault divorce law shattering lifelong covenants, welfare policies disincentivizing marriage, feminist ideology branding a biblical masculinity as toxic. And big tech algorithms replacing human connections with screens, pornography and isolation have sever, weakened the family unit. and I can think of even more things than that, but that is certainly enough of a list. And a structure that once served as the bedrock of the American society is no longer the fulcrum. And so then he goes into a lot of the data and talking about the sharp decline of us households. And I was actually reading a piece that said that the rise of single women who are homeowners, is on the rise because no one is getting married anymore.

Troy Miller says American society has lost emphasis on family

So let's welcome in Troy Miller. And Troy, you know, this is a really important thing to highlight, on Holy Week, I think, especially because, you know, we tend to focus so much in American society, in particular on the rights of the individual, that it's almost like it's such hyper individualism that we forget that the context of the individual exercising our rights, really is designed for and should be in the context of the family.

Troy Miller: Yeah. Thank you, Jennifer, for having me today. And you're exactly right. you know, we're celebrating the 250th. If you go back to, you know, some of the, you know, aspirations and the hopes that the pilgrims had, when they came over was all centered around their families. They were coming over because of some of the oppression in Europe, for to be able to live out the lives they wanted to and to their conscience and came over with this great American experiment that was really founded on the fundamental, base of the family, that the family was center, to society and the core of a successful, growing society.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And you know, we have Somehow, in the 250 years of American history that we're celebrating also this year in 2026, we somehow lost to that. And what do you, I mean, what do you really attribute that to? I mean, we can go through all the statistics and things like no fault divorce and the rise of the sexual revolution in the 60s and you know, many other things. But, you know, beyond just law, I mean law and policy is often a reflection of the culture and what people are already clamoring for. And so where do you think we've kind of lost the way as a society on the emphasis of the family?

Troy Miller: Yeah, all of those things, as you said, contribute to it. The policies of the country, the laws of the country. But I think the real core base of it, unfortunately, Jenna, I think a lot of it goes back to, what we teach in the church and how we teach, the family as being the base. We do a lot of things. Churches have a lot of programs, we have youth programs, we have other things, but we really don't reinforce that the strength of the family is found in the mother and the father and holding, families together and that the responsibility for the family really lies in the home. Unfortunately, in our consumer driven culture over the last 55 decades or so, 50 years, we've moved that into the family as well, is where we want to outsource everything. We outsource, education to the government. We have outsourced, outsourced, religious teaching sometimes to the church. and we don't have enough of families themselves who are just concentrating that parents that this is my responsibility, this is my responsibility to teach my kids to hold my family together and to pass along family values. that's the thing that I think we've really seen, deteriorate in the last five decades.

Jenna Ellis: M Absolutely. And you know, you also mentioned in this article, rightly so, that the family is not merely one interest group among many. I mean, this isn't just a constituency or people who, you know, choose to participate in families like they might choose to participate in other types of interest groups and things. I mean, this is something that is so fundamental to not just the core of society, but also the core of, of the truth of the gospel. And it's the foundational institution on which the church, the culture, the economy and even liberty all rest. And so when we were talking about, the resurrection power this week, you've also mentioned here, and I love how you phrase this, the resurrection power renews the covenantal order God established from the beginning, equipping men to lead their households to biblically. And the same power that raised Christ from the dead is able to heal marriages, strengthen fathers, rebuild homes and restore nations. And I think especially this week in 2026, we need to not look at Easter Sunday and that hope in isolation from the rest of what's going on in our daily lives.

Troy Miller: Yeah, very well said. I think it all starts at, as you said at home, it starts with us looking as parents, as husbands and wives, as mothers and fathers, that we have the strength of Christ in us, we have the strength of the gospel. we don't need to depend, on the institutional systems that society often they provide, but those often, work against us. We need to sort of, almost have a rededication and a recommitment to the core family and family values, across this country. That's what we're really reaching out and calling on pastors to remind everybody, that Christ, died, yes, absolutely, to cover our sins. but he reminded us, he said he came, that we would have life and have it more abundant. And you can't find life more abundant, ah, than when you have a solid, ah, family together, during this holiday time.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah.

Jenna Ellis: And you know, and it's, it's a really great thing that the spiritual and cultural renewal seems to at least be underway in a certain segment of Gen Z. It seems like, some of these young men are more, focused on things of the family. They want to get married, they want to be the providers, they want to run households. And that's an encouraging trend, among younger people, comparatively to what we've experienced in the last year, maybe several generations. And the church has a real opportunity and I think religious broadcasters as well, speaking to your and my groups, as well, that we have a really important opportunity to cultivate that and to encourage young people, to be part of the family and to focus on that, more than just their careers or their lifestyles or anything else that the secular world has sold them.

Troy Miller: Yeah, that is a real encouragement. And we've been hearing that from ministries across the country, not just looking at some of the data alone, but that young men and young women are looking to reconnect, to those spiritual roots. And one of the things that they really want, it keeps getting replaced, repeated over and over and over again, in our conversations and studies we've done is, yeah, they're looking for encouragement and they're looking for, purpose. But they really want to understand how to have meaningful relationships and how to have solid relationships in kind of this virtual world we've created. Jen, out there. We sort of. All of our relationships are these very superficial, virtual relationships. And we found that the. This Gen Z community, is really, as you said, they're looking to restore. I think they realize, maybe as I did growing up, that you're missing something in your life, and yes, it's a relationship with God, but you're also missing that solid, strong connection, that you have with families, and you only get when you're together with your family. And it's not about the hustle of running kids to this soccer or that thing or that thing. It's about the family together, maybe around the dinner table or together doing a Bible study or just the family actually moving through life together, rather than just a group that's moving through life, individually.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah.

Jenna Ellis: And. Absolutely. And you know, there is community, there's purpose, there's meaning, and there's design and order behind the family unit that you can't just get as one single individual. And our society, you know, as much, and even conservatives are guilty of this. As much as we, you know, focus on individual rights, we focus on, you know, the needs of the individual instead of collectivism. That's all good. you know, all of those things are good. We can tend to, focus too much just on the individual and, individual desires instead of recognizing that the design, the order that God himself put forward is for the design of the family.

Jenna Guy: Nation strength is grounded in strong families

So just in the last minute, or so we have with you Trey Miller and I just love this piece and I really appreciate you coming on today. I never need to read this piece, in Newsmax and, share it, perhaps with your pastor, Nation strength is, grounded in strong families. that's in Newsmax. how would you encourage people to take advantage of this Easter Sunday in emphasizing the purpose and the design of the family?

Troy Miller: Yeah, first of all, Jenna Guy, get together, have a family gathering. We've seen that the statistics are down of families that actually just get together and have a meal together. Get together as your family, have that gathering, have that meal together, shut off all the devices, put the phones in a basket, tell the Easter story, as you said, attend your church services. A lot of churches have Thursday, Friday, some even Saturday and Sunday services, but do it together as a family. And maybe look at this time, this time of the resurrection, this time of new beginnings, to be a new beginning in your family as well and a recommitment, to the focus on the family, to the family strength, that we have. And I think the greatest fulfillment we will find is when we have strong families across this country, our jobs, our careers, anything else is not going to give us that same fulfillment of that strong, solid family, going through life together.

Jenna Ellis: Amen. So well said. Well, we've got to take a break here. But you know, it's so true that, for all of the things that the world sells you of, you know, climbing the corporate ladder, your career path, your possessions, your, you know, being the dink, the dual income, no kids and, you know, all of these other things, when you are living life separate from God's design, then you will not be as fulfilled and living life as abundantly as true. Mentioned the Bible says, if you don't follow God's order and his design. And so, what an encouragement for, the start of this Holy Week. And I really appreciate it. Troy Miller and national religious broadcasters, we appreciate being part of that organization and we will be right back with you.

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CNN: Iran threatens to rain fire on US troops as possible ground war looms

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. Well, we're headed into to April tomorrow and the Iran conflict is still ongoing. And the latest headline from CNN is Iran threatens to rain fire on US Troops as possible ground war looms. this is something that a lot of us actually did not think, that President Trump would actually, go to, which is boots on the ground. And it looks, increasingly like that is going to be more and more of a possibility. And even our very own Walker Wildmon, who does have an X account, I'd encourage you all to go and, and follow him as well. this came up in my Highlights. Yesterday, he posted, I'm growing more uncomfortable with this Iran conflict as the days go on. How exactly does this end? I think that's a really apt question. And, the answer to that, of course, has to be in, well, what are the goals? And I'm not really sure that the goals are being sufficiently, and particularly articulated, perhaps as well as the White House, may wish to do that or thinks that it is.

Joel Rosenberg says the war against Iran has been a success so far

But, let's welcome in Joel Rosenberg. He's the host of the Rosenberg Report, and of course the editor in chief of all Israel [email protected]. and, Joel, you know, you're kind of right in the thick of this, with going back and forth to Jerusalem. So, you know, from your perspective, you know, it seems to be that at least on the American front, there is increasing discomfort with this ongoing conflict. How do you see it?

Joel Rosenberg: Great to be with you, Jenna, and greetings from Jerusalem, as we are just, heading into Passover tomorrow and of course into, Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday. So, we're trying to stay focused on faith here. But you're right, we're under missile attack, but we're pressing the offensive. And I would say we're seeing tremendous victory, tremendous, success so far. All right, we're not at victory yet, but it's really a miraculous measure of success that the United States and Israel, have, are waging and achieving so far. And I see polling that says that Americans, do support this war and that Republicans overwhelmingly support this war and that maga, supports it more than everybody. There's almost nobody in the MAGA movement that doesn't think this is the right thing to do. Now, is it hard? Yes. Is it messy? Yes. Are we seeing some casualties? We are here in Israel. You know, we just woke up this morning at 5:30 morning to another missile barrage. And Lyn and I were in our bomb shelter and that's happening, ah, all around our country all day long. But I think, look, there are two things that still have to happen, in terms of, destroying, Iran's missile, launch capacity that is significantly advanced. There's more to do. Yes. so we probably need several weeks more of bombings, to stop their missiles, their missile launchers and their ability to produce missiles. That's also true about, their suicide drone launches. Right. We have to wipe that out. Those drone launches are down about 83%, but we're not there totally yet. Okay, so, we've shattered the regime. We've Assassinated, you know, dozens and dozens and dozens of the top, most powerful, most wicked leaders, including the so called self proclaimed supreme, leader, Allie Khamenei. These are all good. And it's astonishing in just five weeks of work. Right, so what do we still have to do? Well, this war is not going to be victorious unless, at least two things are happening. First, you'll recall that Steve Witkoff, President Trump's, chief negotiator with Jared Kushner, he told us all publicly that the Iranians, were bragging in negotiations before Operation, Epic Fury began that the Iranians had, 460 kilograms of highly enriched uranium. Enough, they bragged, to build 11 nuclear bombs. Okay. Or nuclear warheads. Well, we cannot let that stay inside Iran. The United States and Israel has to identify exactly where that is, and we have to go get it. I mean, if they want to, if there's a negotiation and they're just willing to hand it over, fine. But we can't end this war with Iran's shattered, tattered regime, still having enough highly enriched uranium to build 11 nuclear warheads. They're either going to build them themselves or they're going to sell them to terrorists. So. Right. So we can't, we've got to make sure we get that back. And the second thing is we can't let the Strait of Hormuz be in control of the Iranian, whatever, is left of the Iranian military and regime. Right. We can't have 20% of the world's oil gas supplies being held hostage, essentially by not being able to move safely through the Strait of Hormuz, out of the Gulf, into the Indian Ocean and onto Europe, Asia or wherever else it needs to go. So those are two big things. but I'm encouraged and I'm astonished when I'm in the States and even watching from here, how the mainstream media and so much of social media is acting like the United States and Israel are losing this thing. Nothing could be further from the case.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, well, I mean, we obviously, ah, take anything that the mainstream media says with a huge grain of salt because, they're going to want to interpret, any of the facts in the light most, disfavorable to President Trump and Israel. And we know that. And increasingly, unfortunately, some people on the right are kind of doing the same thing. But I think, Joel Rosenberg, what you articulate as, kind of these, these two, primary goals or things that are still left to be done, that makes a lot of sense and when we started this conflict by saying, you know, there was an immediate, necessity to ensure that Iran was not going to have these nuclear warheads, we had to, there was that imminent threat, which is what the White House used to justify, that initial conflict and to ensure that, they sufficiently remove that threat, is a, in my opinion at least a valid goal. And that's certainly something that makes sense on the global stage. It makes sense for American interests, and you know, as well as all of Western nations, and so how do you think we, we know when that point has been reached though? because, you know, President Trump isn't for kind of these decades long wars. He's not, he doesn't want to be a wartime president. this is something that I've seen from the beginning kind of a, a conflict that, that would be minimized as much as possible. I mean he, he loves to declare that he won, you know, so he's not going to try to, to perpetuate this conflict, I think, any further, than it needs to be. But you know, when we're talking about things like boots on the ground and actually sending American soldiers, over to this conflict, I mean, I think that does change the equation a little bit. And the calculation as far as the, the value and what the overall timeline

Joel Rosenberg: is, I don't think it does actually, I understand why. If we were talking about President Trump deciding to send a quarter of a million or half a million American boots on the ground into Iran to invade, Occupy like we did in the Iraq war, then I would say, okay, nobody wants to go back to that. However, that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about several tens of thousands of Special Forces, highly trained American operators, from the Marines, from the 82nd Airborne, probably from other elite units, Delta and so forth, going and doing these two missions. One getting the 460 kilograms of highly enriched uranium. We believe that's under, that's under the rubble of one of the main, Iranian nuclear weapons facilities that we bombed so aggressively and effectively. The good news is we think that the highly enriched uranium is trapped. The bad news is somebody could go dig it out and it ought to be us, I think. So. It's not as simple as just sending people in to go get it. You're going to have to secure the area long enough, you know, and bring in, you know, and get equipment and all the stuff that you need to do in order to dig it out and make sure you have it, and you. And you transport it out safely. That could take a few weeks. Let's just be honest. But what's the alternative? Leaving 11 nuclear bombs worth of enriched uranium for the Iranians to get later, after we leave, after Trump leaves office? No, that would be unacceptable. The other thing, of course, is securing, both sides of the Strait of Hormuz and making sure that that is safe for, oil and other, shipping to go through. And the good news is, and I'm very encouraged by this, the Arab, moderate Arab states that said they weren't going to get involved in this operation at all have shifted because Iran has attacked 17 different countries, all of whom are Muslim, except for Israel. Right. And so the Arabs have realized there's no going back.

Morton: I don't see the president losing support politically

We have to help the United States finish this off and secure, free shipping through that passage, that strategic choke point. And so, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain have both said they are willing to be part of, all the efforts, military efforts involved in securing the freedom of passage, the freedom of maneuver through the Strait of Hormuz. And I think the Saudis are going to join on as well. They haven't announced that publicly, but I think they're watching to see President Trump put his plan together. General Kaine, you know, and his team, and Pete Hackseth get that operation just right. I heard the President say yesterday that maybe, maybe he told, you know, somebody, the Wall Street Journal, I guess, reported that Trump was telling aides that, you know, maybe he could finish this thing without securing the Strait of Hormuz. I think that is fake news at the highest possible level. There's no way President Trump, of all people, is going to allow what's left of the Iranian regime, you know, hijack, the Strait of Hormuz and drive up oil prices to 200, $250 a barrel or whatever. So that will require some forces. But that's not like saying we're going to put hundreds and hundreds of thousands in forever, but ultimately the Arabs will control that under our supervision. and that would be a great, great success.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And, you know, and that all makes sense. And I think, you're. You're in, in some sense, I think, articulating this better than, even the press secretary in terms of, you know, understanding the pieces here and, what the goals are and, and giving kind of these clean margins. And I can see the.

Joel Rosenberg: Well, she is just about to have a baby, so let's give her a lot of valid.

Jenna Ellis: All right, all right. We, Absolutely, we will. But, you know, but I can see that the distinction certainly between, you know, sending in just, you know, some of the Special Forces versus, you know, hundreds of thousands of, you know, the regular, just enlisted boots on the ground, you know, that is a difference, in practicality and in reality. But do you think politically the perception, is still the same, and that's more where, ah, Trump is losing some of that support, is with just the political calculations and the perception.

Joel Rosenberg: I don't see the president losing support. I, mean, he's lost the entire Democratic Party, but that's.

Jenna Ellis: Well, has he ever had those? Yeah. Has he ever had them?

Joel Rosenberg: Independents. Independents are hugely important, and we don't have their confidence right now, but usually victory is what matters. Like, you know, if you asked people a month before the Venezuela operation, should we spend Special forces to, arrest Nicolas Maduro right in the middle of the most dangerous and highly secured military facility and in all of, you know, the capital of Venezuela? I think people, I think you get very low numbers, even from Republicans. But once you do it and you do it well and it goes off super well, you're like, oh, well, no, I support victory. I support doing the right thing. If it works out, I think independents will move back, into the, hey, we love victory. We love America first, America strong. Peace through strength. But they're nervous right now because they're not ideologically committed to this president and they're not personally committed to this president. So they're nervous. They're nervous for a whole list of things that could go wrong. And those are not illegitimate concerns. The fact is, though, they're not going wrong. Everything is going right. In this M Military, battle. So far, yes, there have been some casualties. I don't treat that lightly. my own son is in the Israeli army in a combat unit here, and he just had to go to a funeral two nights ago because one of his friends was killed in southern Lebanon fighting Hezbollah. So we know the pain, and the cost of war. Okay, so I'm not being, I'm not taking it lightly, but in the grand scheme of things, this war is going. We are heading towards an Operation Epic Victory. like that's what they're going to have to rename this. Not Epic Fury, but Epic Victory. This is one of the huge tectonic changes that are, that are changing the Middle east for the better. What?

Joel Rosenberg: We're not done. The key is this. When you look at the polling, always look at the Republican numbers and then look at the MAGA numbers. Right. I'd be worried if I thought the Tucker Carlsen faction, the Megyn, Kelly, the Candace Owens faction of the Republican Party, or the right wing was actually winning the argument. They're awfully loud, but they're not winning the argument. You've got 98% MAGA. 98% MAGA, support for the president. One poll said it was 100%. Okay, maybe. But the point is, we're not seeing a fracturing. Why? Because this is not something that Trump is doing. Because he woke up one morning and decided, you know, he didn't have anything better to do. This is 47 years of the Iranian radical Islamists taking Americans, hostage in 1979, killing Americans in the Beirut bombing of 19, 83, and killing and wounding and maiming Americans in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and all over the world ever since, including trying to assassinate President Trump. so we've got 47 years of Americans, especially Republicans and conservatives, we know how horrifying and evil and wicked the Iranian regime is. And we think, what if they were firing at 17 different countries, including at American bases and so forth with nuclear warheads? People. Americans have understood this. At least conservative Americans, evangelicals have understood this for 47 years. And we finally have an American president who's serious, like, well, I'm not going to allow this to continue. I gave them every chance. I gave the Iranians every chance to negotiate a peaceful solution, and they basically spit in my face. So, okay, we gave them every chance. I like that. President Trump is not, you know, doesn't have a trigger finger. Right? He doesn't. He's not, like, eager to get into the fight, and he is eager to end this, but he's not going to cut, cut loose quickly. He wants to win, and he's very close to winning. and I will say for all the Israel haters out there and all the Jew haters, Israel is proving itself the number one best ally that the United States has ever had. Where's NATO in all this? Where's Spain? Spain won't even let the United States use its bases or fly over the country. It's a NATO member, and we're in a fight, a fight against an almost nuclear armed power. President Trump is doing the right thing. He's got great allies. Not only Israel, but the Arabs have kicked in, and they're joining the fight, and they're doing a great job defending, their countries and our forces, shooting down about 95% of every missile and drone that's fired at Them Israel shot down about 92%. Our numbers are a little bit lower, but, we're still doing a great job. This is impressive. There are 700,000Americans who live in Israel, and Israel is a country that the Iranian regime threatens to annihilate, to liquidate, to commit genocide with. So I think the President is doing a great job. We've got to give him space.

Joel Rosenberg: Nobody thinks President Trump is serious about nuclear disarmament

We've got to pray for him and let him finish the job and support him as he does it.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And, you know, you're absolutely right, Joel Rosenberg, that, well, Trump doesn't kind of have that, the trigger happy, finger, which is very good. one of these parents in the room that's, you know, counting to five and then 10 and you know, and nobody, none of our foreign adversaries think that he's actually serious. I mean, that's one of the things that, even in his first term, everybody on the world stage knew that if Trump says, he's going to do something or he issues, you know, a threat, that you can, you can bank on that, and you can count on him to follow through on that. And that counts for a lot, I think, in terms of ultimately, the goal here, of course, is disarmament of the. Of all of the nuclear warheads. But, you know, he, he wants to bring peace to the Middle east. And part of that is ensuring that they know that there's someone, who is more powerful than they are. So, that's really incredibly important. We've got to take a break here. so much more to talk to you about though, Jill Rosenberg. So we'll have to have you, on again soon, but, you know, really appreciate your time. And we are looking at All Israel News. You can go to all Israelnews.com of course, for, some of those headlines that are, right there in Jerusalem. And, a lot of great reporters that Joel has on his staff. So, you know, beyond our own American Family News, of course, that's always the outlet that I go to more than anything else, see perspective on, what's going on in Iran, Israel, the Middle east, all of that, because, you know, you're getting it from a solid, biblical worldview perspective and just good, honest journalism. So thanks so much, Joel Rosenberg, and we will be right back with more.

Jenna Ellis: Beau French said Republicans should more openly embrace Islamophobia

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Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. Well, this past weekend in Dallas, Texas, CPAC occurred and, a lot came out of that. We'll be talking, probably more about some of those events, later on this week. But, the former Tarrant County GOP chair, Beau French, made headlines, of course, and, inflamed a lot of liberals by, suggesting that the. That America should deport around 100 million people. And according to the Texas Tribune, Beau French said Friday that Republicans should, quote, more openly embrace Islamophobia, which is, of course, the leftist way of. Of articulating that. But let's welcome in the man himself. So, Bo, I think I see where you're going with this and where the Texas Tribune kind of manipulated, your words there. But, so overall, I think that, we need to. Not Sharia law, not only Texas or Florida or anywhere in the United States. And what happened to the call for mass deportation?

Bo French: Good morning, Jenna. Thank you so much for having me on. Yeah, it did make kind of some headlines. But look, I just think elected officials need to speak the truth about what's happening in America. You know, last year, Or excuse me, last administration under the Biden administration, he let in roughly 20 million illegal aliens. Estimates are as high as there's 50 million illegal aliens in the United States. in August last year, the State Department talked about, released a report saying they were reviewing 55 million foreign visa app. applications. And so I think Americans are like, you know, just as you walk around your neighborhoods and, the grocery stores and the hospitals and public schools, and you just see how many foreigners there suddenly seem to be in America, I think there's the sense that we are losing our culture, our, American culture, our Christian culture. And, So I don't know what the exact number is, of course, but the president, you know, ran on a platform of mass deportations. I think some people are frustrated that it's not happening quickly enough. I know the Trump administration has done amazing and great things and still continues to do so, but there is a sense that we need to be doing more. And, So, you know, I think my quote kind of made a headline and woke a lot of people up and shocked a lot of people. But, I mean, by estimates, There are roughly 100 million people in the country who probably shouldn't be here. And so what we do with those, I don't know. But, certainly mass deporting a, good chunk of those would be helpful.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And, you know, it's fascinating to see that we're in this argument right now with, the leftists, and of course, you know, the Democrats are the ones that Want to import, a lot of people for the purpose of undermining our culture, our values, and, of course, our elections as well. but they're calling this Islamophobia. And. And, you know, the same thing as, you know, saying that while you're just, you know, you just have homophobia or, you know, some of these other things, like, no, we're not, we're not scared of them. We're not, using this in a personal, derogatory way. You know, it's nothing like that. but they refuse to actually look at what the right is arguing for when we're saying there are certain people who come here that aren't assimilating. They don't share our culture, they don't share our values. They're, in. In often, in a lot of cases, are committing violent crimes and, and committing, you know, fraud. Like what we saw in, Minnesota, what we've seen, you know, prolifically, throughout the country. And why should we want, you know, that type of mentality and that type of individual here? And it comes from this, like, weird presumption that somehow everybody else deserves to be here just because they want to, and that's not good enough. And so I'm really tired of people suggesting that this is Islamophobia instead of saying, no, we're pro Constitution, we're pro American law, and we're pro American culture and values.

Bo French: Well, I mean, we are certainly battling that here in Texas as well, just like they are in Minnesota. But, you know, Islamophobia, to me is just the recognition that Muslims, openly admit that they are here for jihad. Well, look around the world at what jihad looks like elsewhere. We don't want that here. And so, yeah, you're right. I mean, like, we're being criticized because we're just. We're just saying we don't want them to do what they admit that they are, in fact, doing. The violence, the takeover, the installing of Sharia law as some form of government superior to our constitution, really antithetical to our Constitution. So, for all of these reasons, I think, you know, people are just waking up to this reality that our culture is under attack. these jihadists are here to attack it. And, I mean, we're just a few years behind a lot of European countries, I would argue, and look how bad things are there. We don't want that here, so we have to do something about it. I'm glad that everyone's talking about it. You know, I was really criticized a Couple years ago, when I was talking about, it seemed like not very many other people were certainly no elected officials. And fortunately, in this campaign season, at least here in Texas, I think every candidate was talking about it in some way. And now we have a Sharia free caucus in Congress, a Sharia free caucus in the Texas legislature, and people are talking about this. But, you know, to me, it's not just Sharia. It's the entire culture and worldview of the Muslims who are here and who come here and who openly talk about conquering us and putting us all under the umbrella, of Islam and their Allah. So I just think it's Islamophobia. Call it what you want. They use it as a pejorative. I use it as an admission that, we just don't want to be, submitted to their, to their God and to their religion and to their culture. you know, because the consequence of that is if you. If you don't submit under. Under the Quran, they're allowed to kill you. And so I think most Americans would find that, you know, something we don't want.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah.

Jenna Ellis: And. Yeah, and this seems just, very obvious. And it seems like, just like the question of, you know, what is a woman like, we shouldn't be debating this in 2026. And so how did you find the reception among at least the CPAC attendees? Because these should be people that are in the Republican base, mostly, obviously out of Texas. I mean, a lot of people did, fly in from other places, but this is there in Dallas. And, are you seeing that people, at least in the Republican base, get this?

Bo French: Yeah. It's funny, walking around cpac, you probably know this, but I'm currently in a runoff for a statewide position in Texas, called the Railroad Commission, which is the oil and gas regulator. And, you know, just walking through the crowds, you know, every now and then, someone would stop me and say, really appreciate what you're doing and good luck in your race. And after my speech, I literally couldn't walk anywhere without, you know, lines of people trying to stop me and talk to me because they were so appreciative of my willingness to just be bold and say what they all already know. You know, I've been traveling around the state in this campaign, going to, you know, various grassroots events. And every time I speak in front of a group, I ask them, how many of you are concerned about the omnification of Texas? Without fail, 100% of the people in the room raise their hand. So this is an issue that, Texans care about, our voters care about. I'm glad that the candidates are now openly talking about it, and, you know, some. Some elected officials are openly talking about it. But, you know, talk is one thing and action is another. So I'm excited as we move a little bit further along in this process to see what our elected leaders actually do.

The Senate race in Texas could be a bellwether for the nation

Jenna Ellis: And speaking of elected leaders, the Senate race is, kind of the big one that everyone is looking at in Texas, between either, Cornyn or, Ken Paxton versus James Talarico. And, you know, to see how that shapes up, especially in the primary initially, but then overall in the general, I mean, that's, that's going to be very interesting and I think, perhaps be a bellwether for Texas.

Bo French: Yeah, you know, remember that, Texas hasn't elected a statewide Democrat in 35 years. I don't see that happening this time either. The closest we came in a long time was the 2018 race with, Beto O' Rourke and Ted Cruz. But, you know, Ted Cruz, I think, just sort of cruised along in that campaign and didn't really run a campaign until really, you know, six weeks before Election Day, which is probably why that race was so close. We, won't make that mistake as Republicans in Texas again, I, think in the primary between Cornyn And Paxton, remember, 60% of the primary voters already voted against John Cornyn, so he looks to be in real trouble. He's not loved by the grassroots. And Ken Paxton is seen as the America first warrior that, you know, defended and fought for Donald Trump's agenda. So I think that's going to play very well for him. so he would. He will likely be the nominee come May 26 when we have our runoff election. And then in the general, you know, that was, the Democrat race was between Jasmine Crockett and James Talarico, neither of which are very inspiring candidates to certain segments of the Democrat Party. I don't think that, you know, sort of the effeminate, scripture twisting James Talarico is going to go very far among his base. and I don't think he's really going to excite a lot of people, even though he's very smooth, talking kind of like Obama was. So, you know, that might help him to some extent. But, really the contrast couldn't be more clear, between someone who really embraces sort of the, the, you know, gay race, communist agenda versus an America first warrior.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, well, let's let's hope and pray, for the sake of Texas and also America, that, voters get out not just in the primaries in Texas, here in Florida, you know, every state, make sure you're voting in your primaries, but also in the general election. And hopefully we keep, an element of sanity on some of these things, like being able to say, yeah, Sharia law has no business business in America, where our Constitution is the law of the land. But as always, you can reach me and my team, Jenna, @afr.net.