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Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordal

>> Fred Jackson: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Ed Vitagliano.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And welcome back, everybody. Ed Vitagliano sitting in for Tim Wildmon this week. I'm, joined in studio by Fred Jackson and Wesley Wildmon. And now Steve Paisley Jordal. The world waits for Steve Jordal to get here on the show. You know, people, you're kind of, you got kind of rock star status with our listeners and, and they have. There have been complaints when Tim has not mentioned your nickname, Paisley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, and y. Don't forget, I came back from a donor, event meeting with our supporters asking for this shirt to be posted on our store or AFA store website.

>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, I like that idea, actually.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Royalties with an AFR logo.

>> Steve Jordahl: I can see a shirt in our store. Absolute. Absolutely.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I, I will mention that to our marketing team. I don't know that they're going to go for that, but I wonder if you. I wonder how many people you could get to buy a. Pays a Jordal edition, Paisley, edition.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right.net folks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah, you vote on it.

>> Steve Jordahl: If we have, how many do we have to have before they take like 100 people?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. Interesting. Let me just say this. You can't vote and then not buy one.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Can't vote and say, yeah, I think you should have a Paisley Edition. no, because then we're gonna have them sitting in our inventory. You gotta wait.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Give away on trivia, though.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, that's right. That could be the giveaway shirt.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, we could start something with that. I mean, people would say, why in the world are you wearing that? And, it might catch on.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, and then after this show, we'll forget about it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Yeah, someone's gonna have to.

>> Steve Jordahl: Someone has to read the [email protected] four people are gonna call in.

Active shooter at Fort Stewart near Savannah, Georgia; casualties reported

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, Steve, get started. What do you want to bring up?

>> Steve Jordahl: All right, well, I just. There's some breaking news. We're just seeing now, that there is a active shooter. ah, police have confirmed this. Casualties have been reported at Fort Stewart near Savannah, Georgia. It's on the coastline. Near the coastline, in Southern Georgia. Active shooter. as always with these things, we're going to find out a lot of information that's going to be inaccurate or premature. So, we try not to pass a lot of that stuff on. But, the, the situation is evolving and, and it's going to change over time. So at this point all we know is that there Are casualties reported, according to several various news, outlets, and, that there's an active shooter and it was shut down at 1104 Eastern exactly, an hour and three minutes ago.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it's wise that we're not delving into and speculating, because there are all kinds of questions that will have to be answered. Oh, yeah, sometimes these things are domestic violence, someone's been let go, sometimes shooters have an agenda, all of that. Hopefully, we'll get information, in the hours ahead and, where can they go to check? In terms of our own updates, afk.

>> Steve Jordahl: We will keep everybody posted right there about what's going on.

A dozen blue states are suing the Trump administration over transgender policy

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right.

>> Steve Jordahl: Meanwhile, there is a coalition of about a dozen blue states that is suing the Trump administration in an attempt to block a federal policy aimed at stopping the transgender. Transgendering of children. So we talk about why the Democrats might have lost the 2024 election and the fact that they are going to, woke and that, you know, all of this, crazy transgender stuff. Boys are girls, and they can swim with the girl. Boys or girls. And, and. And America pretty flat out said, no, that's too much for us. but the Democrats are doubling down a dozen states, and I could list them California, Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, Illinois, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, and Washington, D.C. all Democrat strongholds as far as their legal system.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, what are they suing to accomplish?

>> Steve Jordahl: They want to void President Trump's, executive order that said that you cannot, perform transgender operations or give drugs to children.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, my goodness. All right, look, and I'll toss this.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, they need to win the presidency and then make their own executive order.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I, Listen, Biden, when he was elected, quote, unquote, depending on how. What you believe about that in 2020, that's what he did. He executive orders and red state sued. So this is part of the American process. I will say this. Fred, I remember M. I don't know, six or seven years ago, maybe longer. And he was at a retreat hosted by AFA. Alex McFarland spoke, and he said there are three existential threats to our constitutional republic. He said the homosexual movement, the LGBTQ movement, in terms of the pressure was putting on Christians and churches, but also destroying the moral fabric. he said the cultural Marxist movement and the radical Muslim movement. and he said that these are worldwide threats, but threaten the United States. And lo and behold, the Democratic Party is in tune with all three of those. All three of those and again, some people may Disagree with Alex McFarland's assessment, but. But I think he's exactly right. These are three existential threats. And the Democratic Party loves all three of these movements.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yeah. And I mean, it's been predicted. I was just sitting here thinking as you were going through that, Who was it that. That published a study, it was several years ago. About the characteristics that lead up to a fall of a nation. Do you remember that? I think you did something.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I did, yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: You can remember Alex's stuff, but you can't remember your own writing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I thought you were talking about somebody important. No, that was back in two, 2007.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Studied, the, a cup, a couple of.

>> Steve Jordahl: Through.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Through a couple of books. This was, J.D. Unwin, who is an anthropologist, and Peter M. Sorokin, who is the founder of the sociology department at Harvard University. They had both independently written Unwin in 1934, released his book, Sorokin in 1956. They had both studied the rise, prosperity and decay and demise of 80 civilizations and cultures. And I wrote a couple of articles about what they found.

>> Fred Jackson: One of the ingredients was an openness to homosexuality.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: Breakdown of the, traditional family. so right now the Democratic Party, now there are some Democrats that would argue in our favor, actually. But I think the party as a whole is headed in the direction of, ensuring that our civilization, our country falls apart.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: I, I mean that, that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So they can rebuild it. Yes. In their image, according to their ideology.

>> Fred Jackson: But it's, but it's not going to work because history has shown, it will fail. I mean, and it comes right down to, you know, it comes down to, it comes down to, what God says is going to work and what does. What doesn't work, you know, and God doesn't change.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: When, when a society rebels against God, there is going to be consequences. There will be consequences. And we're starting to see that now. You know, off the top of the program today, we talked about what's going on in D.C. I just saw somebody, has done a study. If D.C. was a state, if D.C. was a state right now, it would lead the nation in homicides.

>> Steve Jordahl: Wow.

>> Fred Jackson: So you, you look at the results. We look at Chicago, we look at Illinois, Democrat controlled, both the city and the state. Look at the, the crime levels. And Democrats try to deceive the nation because they start redefining what a crime is. Ah. And they let people out, you know, instead of assault With a deadly weapon. It's a, they break it down to a misdemeanor.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: They do all kinds of things like. But it doesn't change behavior on the ground. And that's what we're facing in these states. And it really is a fight. It really is a fight for. Are you going to live by Godly principles or are you going to live by Satan's principles? Yeah, that's what it, it's pretty black and white quite frankly. And we have enough evidence right now. We haven't, we don't have to wait for this to happen. We have enough evidence right now to see in these Dem. Democrat run states things are falling apart.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: Democrats, differ from Republicans in the same way that. Well, I don't want to make that comparison yet.

Democrats believe everything that's wrong with this culture is outside influences on people

But Democrats believe everything that's wrong with this culture is outside influences on people. That if they were just had enough money or enough this or that free stuff, they would be happy and that we wouldn't have any violence, we wouldn't have any problems. All resolved. Republicans believe in personal responsibility, which means strong laws to keep me because I am capable of doing bad things, because within me lies. It's a pessimistic. It's a Godly view of mankind that all have sinned.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Realistic.

>> Steve Jordahl: It is realistic. But so we see, whenever somebody does something wrong, it's not society's job to come along and provide them with more schooling or more free stuff so that you can appease them. It's society's job to hold them accountable for their personal responsibility. And like, Fred was saying. Exactly. Godly principles work across the board. They work in politics, they work in society. You don't even have. They work at home. You don't even have to necessarily put them in the Christian framework, just the principles themselves. Truth is truth.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Steve Jordahl: And it applies throughout.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it is interesting. I was just tying it to what Alex McFarland said in that, in that speech, that the Democratic Party is, in love with all three of these movements. When I say radical Islam, I'm talking about the anti Semitic protests and things like that we've seen on college campuses. I don't think you'd find many Democrats who publicly come out in favor of what Hamas did, on October 7, 2023. But they are in favor of a Muslim world view in terms of Israel and so on and so forth. So by the way, I do want to also clarify in the writings that I did for our magazine, was homosexuality as an outgrowth of a sexual Revolution. because I'm going to be honest with you, a lot of heterosexuals are sinning against God as well, in terms of pornography and that kind of thing. All of that causing a decay in our culture. But, excellent point, Steve. in terms of the Democrats doubling down.

>> Steve Jordahl: So, that's one of the reasons, probably the main reason they lost the election. But I gotta tell you, they also ran maybe the worst candidate ever in Kamala Harris. Now, I don't know if Joe Biden, if he had run, would have been worse. He was. Most. A lot of people think he wasn't even there to run. But Kamala did run. And for the first time ever, the Teamsters union did not endorse a Democrat. It didn't endorse her. And some people may wonder, why did they all of a sudden get conservative? Not really. Kamala made them really angry. I want you to hear. This is, we're going to hear from the Teamsters president who talks about one of his officers, a lady who went to a reception with Kamal Harris. this is cut 14.

>> Speaker E: And so they do a photo op line. She went to. I know if it was an Emily. Emily's List event the day before our general executive board. and vice, President Harris was there. And so they do a photo op line. So Joan goes in the line and Joan says, I'm, Joan Corrie. I'm a vice president with the Teamsters Union. And she pointed her finger at Joan and said, teamsters better get on board. And so Joan said, excuse me? Yeah, Teamsters better get on board. I don't know why you haven't endorsed me yet. So she comes back and she tells me this, and I'm like, the nerve.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The nerve. Well, it's, They knew that she was serious about pointing the finger and saying, teamsters better get on board. Because she didn't cackle, right? So she was, listen, these kinds of people, this is. This is why President Trump sometimes rubs people the wrong way. Because he can be pretty gruff and pretty blunt. Well, he. In building and his projects in New York City, he was always dealing with these kinds of people, Teamsters or whatever kind of unions. These are people who you don't point the finger in their face, but you do have to get blunt with. And so when. Sometimes when people say, ah, President Trump, you know, he. He says things the wrong way or whatever. I say, he's a New York City street fighter. And this is the way. So this is interesting that Kamala Harris thought she, you better have the Juice, if you're going to point the finger at a vice president in the Teamsters, you better be able to bring the.

>> Steve Jordahl: Disappeared, Jimmy Hoffa. Right.

>> Fred Jackson: But isn't that representative of how Democrats think that there are certain constituencies they're going to vote for us?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. Republicans are that way, too, a little bit with social conservatives.

>> Fred Jackson: But remember what Joe Biden said on one of these talk shows, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah, that was in 2020.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. I don't think he was kidding.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No.

>> Fred Jackson: I mean, there's an assumption that if you have black skin, you're going to vote Democrat.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Steve Jordahl: The other thing is, I think we saw in Kamala Harris, we saw a candidate that you mentioned, the cackle. And she came across as, oh, looking forward, optimistic. It's positive. You know, I'm here for the good stuff. But behind closed doors, we're hearing from her campaign that she was terrible to work for and that this was more typical of her personality. With Donald TRUMP, it's Donald Trump 24 7.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

Teamsters didn't endorse Kamala Harris, CNN reports

>> Steve Jordahl: He's not different to his employees, to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: His campaign, to his very considerate to people that work for him. And who's, Kamala, again?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Why are we talking about her? How did she come up here?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, this is new. This is brand new that we found out that this is why the Teamsters didn't, endorse Kamala Harris.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Gotcha.

Emily Poole says the Inca culture did not practice child sacrifice

Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: I want to introduce you to a, high school teacher in Denver, Colorado. Her name is Emily Poole. And Emily Poole is a, one of her favorite cultures is the Inca culture. She just is in love with the Inca culture. And, she will admit that the Inca culture did practice child sacrifice, but, well, it was a kinder, gentler Child sacrifice. Cut 15.

>> Speaker F: If we're just looking at Tehuantan Suyu, the Quechua people of the Incan empire, they practice sacrifices like most other civilizations throughout history did in times of crisis. So famine, natural disasters. But the unique thing about the Quechua is that when you're looking at, like, the Incan civilization, you essentially have the elites, and then you have everyone else. Sacrifices were volunteers from the elite class because they believed that the elites were closer to the gods and could therefore appease them better. Also, in terms of sacrifice, they were kind about it. Hear me out. because the Inca would intentionally use coca leaves and would use chicha and would drug up the sacrifice and then leave them on a mountain, a cold, chilly mountain, to be exposed to the elements, which a volunteer Sacrifice where you're heavily drugged before you die also, I mean, I can equate human sacrifice throughout history to so many things. And I think the fact that a lot of people are commenting on. Oh, but the sacrifice is again, indicative of the fact that you have received a quite white education because you are knowing them for the bad things that they have done and not, all of the wonders that they accomplished.

>> Steve Jordahl: Pay no attention to the child sacrifice over here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen.

>> Steve Jordahl: That they built a pyramid.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You have, you have to, you have to stretch the. She's stretching the truth on a number of, in a number of ways. She's conflating. First of all. Yes, all ancient civilizations had sacrifices. Not child sacrifices. Some did. You know, in the land of Canaan, for example, in terms of, the biblical record. but most societies did not. Her implication is that most societies practice human sacrifice. That is hogwash. And then this whole idea that, that it was the elite only who were sacrificed. The Spanish, when they were conquering, the Incas, were horrified to discover that if they captured one of them in battle, they were sacrificed. The Incas sacrificed their enemies. No, she is correct. Some of this was the practice of ritualized, human sacrifice.

>> Speaker F: And.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But it wasn't just volunteers who had their hearts cut out. Okay. This was their enemies. And they conquered other civilizations. And when they took captives, they were also sacrificed. And then to toss race into it.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, it's awful white of you to notice that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. To say that you have had a.

>> Steve Jordahl: Whatever.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What was her expression?

>> Steve Jordahl: A white education.

>> Ed Vitagliano: A white education. they get very tiresome with all of this kind of stuff. I've done some reading on the Incas. They were savage. And this wasn't just volunteers. Okay, that, that is a. That I don't know where she's getting that. That it was only volunteers. I don't know. What do you guys think? You guys. Human sacrifice.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I think if you're, a dude and you're living in the air and you're single, you need to avoid her. Dating her.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what I think.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That would be a miserable dinner.

>> Fred Jackson: Where does she teach?

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's funny.

>> Steve Jordahl: Ah, at Cheri Creek, school district in Denver, Colorado. It's a.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What's her name again?

>> Steve Jordahl: Emily Poole.

>> Fred Jackson: She's a high school teacher.

>> Steve Jordahl: High school. High school teacher.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So that means the kids are getting this garbage. Yeah, as well. And so she. Emily Pool. She teaches where?

>> Steve Jordahl: Cheri Creek, school district in Denver. So Cheri gets a, an affluent part.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Of Denver when you're requesting teachers Those in Denver. Do we. Can we get to Denver with our radio? I know we got apps. I know we got the app and we got the Internet.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I was trying to look her up to see how old she is, because that's a fun. That is a fun comment there.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm guessing she's sounding like she was in her 20s or 30s. I don't know if she is.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. I saw a picture of her. If you go to tick, Tick tock and look at,

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm m gonna go on a Tick tock. They practice child sacrifice. Yeah. Just.

Hundreds of students on US university campuses demonstrate for Hamas against Israel

All right. What do you think? This. Listen, kids are being taught this garbage.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. And this I, you know, on the, I guess the serious side. Mom and dads, you need to be aware that this isn't just a single example. I keep going back to what happened shortly after. Days after October 7, 2023, we had hundreds of students on US university campuses demonstrating for Hamas, demonstrating against Israel, despite the fact that 1200 Israeli men, women and children have been massacred. You know, this, it's almost Wake up America.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Understand, you know, the things that we talk about each day on this program that we deal with American family news. This isn't just regular stuff. We're living in a culture right now. We're living in a world where Satan is, is and his forces are very much alive, I believe, because Satan knows his time is short. And we are seeing the thing that, that we have to be aware of now. This evil has always been around, but it's not hidden anymore, folks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's true.

>> Fred Jackson: You know, I just go back to Israel for a second. I mentioned this at, a story meeting this morning. The Wall Street Journal has an editorial this morning and they quote, hamas, Hamas leader who basically says what we did on October 2023 has worked.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: He's proud of it. And what he's referring to is, Western leaders like the Prime Minister of Canada, like Macron in France, like the Prime Minister UK in the last several days have endorsed the idea of a Palestinian state. A Palestinian state would just be another Hamas led state. That's the bottom line.

>> Steve Jordahl: They also succeeded on every American college campus.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. So, we're not exaggerating here, folks. This is reality. This is what's happening. This is why we try to warn people about. You better be careful about what your kid is learning at school. You better be talking to them when they come home. What'd you learn today? What are they telling you there? If you see evidence, absolutely act on it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. What I learned today, mom and dad, is that human, sacrifice was not as bad as we were led to believe.

>> Steve Jordahl: So bad.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

Someone in Boulder, Colorado, heard someone singing rock and roll songs

>> Wesley Wildmon: All right, we got another one.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Do you have something.

>> Steve Jordahl: Can'T. The, people in, Boulder. At Boulder, Colorado, in British Columbia, they were on Canadians. They were out, and they were hearing somebody cry desperately for help. Help. We need help. They couldn't quite understand what the guy was saying, so they sent out a search party. The search party went and looked, and they finally found somebody, but it was a guy sitting there singing rock and roll songs. He, just couldn't sing. They thought it was from the Beatles.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Help, somebody.

>> Steve Jordahl: Action for the band Nickelback.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay. Not so far back as the Beatles, I guess.

>> Steve Jordahl: No. But, yeah, they sounded like a cry for help. He just couldn't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So they sent people to look.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, they sent search teams out. The guys.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That sounds like something that we're looking for. Me, honestly.

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