Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordan
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Issues, the name of this show. I'm Tim with Wesley and Fred. And now Steve Paisley Jordan joined us. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Steve, what's this? Just real quickly, we're not. We don't talk about pop culture much. this Sean Diddy Combs fella, is a. In the hip hop rap world. He's a pretty big deal, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Was at one point. I think his time is in the top of that chart a long time ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: But unless you just totally ignore the news, you can't ignore. His trial has been all over the news.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's been competing with Jeff Bezos wedding for top. Top billing.
>> Steve Jordahl: Is true.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so his trial is over now, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: yeah. He was found guilty, of two of five charges, I believe. And they're lesser char charges. racketeering was one.
>> Tim Wildmon: So racketeering was one he was acquitted.
>> Steve Jordahl: Acquitted of. So, he has lived a rock star life of debauchery. And, there are videos of him abusing women. just. Just awful stuff.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's a bad dude.
>> Steve Jordahl: Very, very bad. Accused of. Of sex trafficking, of, underage. All kinds of stuff that he's been accused of. He's been found guilty of two lesser charges having to do with, I think.
>> Fred Jackson: Prostitution, transportation of prostitution.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, it's been assorted. It has, thing to have to be in the news every day. But it's over now. But. So he's a, he's a. He's a, music, rap producer, local, right?
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: He made it. He. His heyday was the 90s and the 2000s, I guess. 90s. He go back to the 90s.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think he does. Yeah. I'd have to look up the. I was never really.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's not my music. So.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, you know what, you know what this shows to me? I was watching, and listening to some of this stuff, and this isn't the first time this kind of thing's happened in our country and been all over the news. But. And I'm not, I'm not, saying that Sean Diddy. What's his last name?
>> Fred Jackson: Combs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Combs is not. Nobody is beyond God's grace to reach to save him and to change his life radically. Okay. And hopefully and prayerfully, that's what will happen to him, him realizing what, what just happened in his life. I don't know how, how much time he'll have to serve or if he'll even have to serve anytime for what he did, what he's convicted of.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But spiritually, biblically speaking, is this is what. When people are. When we as human beings have the world at our fingertips in terms of all the money and in his case fame, and you can do anything you want to and nobody's going to tell you no, then you know what happens to a lot of people? They just go. Total debauchery. Yep. Total, debauchery. it happens in a lot of cases and not, not high profile like this guy necessarily, but people who are maybe not on the public radar. But I'm just saying that, I'm saying that to say this, that only proves the Bible true. Yeah. Don't you think, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: On the nature of man, the sinful nature of man.
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely. And we see story after story in scripture that goes to this. And what happens so many times and not always, but it seems that the inhibitions to doing these kinds of things go away the more wealthy the individual is. I mean, think of the Epstein case.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: same kind of thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wealthy and powerful and influential. They. And as I say, the fewer people tell them no to anything. Yes. And they're left to their own.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, but it's accountability that matters
That they can buy anything that they want.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And and including bother by their way.
>> Tim Wildmon: By, by, by people. Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: And they take from it because there's not immediate retribution for that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: That must be okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, I'm going to be fine. I'm getting away with this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: There's the worldly saying is power corruption. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Which is the corollary to this is not power, but it's accountability. Without accountability, you will go to the end of your tether. now in the cases of Diddy and in cases of, of the Epstein, Epstein, they did get caught eventually. But how many people do we know out there that didn't get caught? We don't know because they didn't get caught. But there's evil going on all the time. I'm also thinking of some people. Sometimes they think that because they are above the law that they're doing such important work that they're above the law. I'm thinking all of the, the people that fly jets and are, the you know, for the climate change thing. But they're, they can do it. The other thing, example, of that, unfortunately, was Robbie Zacharias, who was found after he died. All this corruption of the sexual immorality that was going on, he. I remember reading he thought because he had worked so hard for the Lord, that this was okay. I don't know how that corruption thought came into his mind, but he thought it was excused because he was working so hard for the Lord, that he deserved these sins. It doesn't make sense, but that was his thinking.
We have talked a lot about the media and bias in the media
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, what's your first story?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, we have talked a lot about the media and, the bias in the media. In fact, one of the things that keeps me employed here is talking about bias in media. And, we're starting to see the piper, is starting to collect fees now today. Well, what's the saying? The piper is.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I know what you're talking about.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: What are you talking about?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'll get.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll get Pied Piper. You talking about the Pied Piper?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Get the, time to pay the Pied Piper.
>> Steve Jordahl: Pay the pipe.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Pay the piper.
>> Tim Wildmon: Say that three times fast.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. Anyway, it's a Pied Piper, but.
CBS interviewed Kamala Harris about Benjamin Netanyahu during heat of the election
Okay, here's the. Here's the headline. Yesterday, Paramount Global and CBS agreed to pay President Donald Trump a sum of $16 million upfront and, further payments that could, according to Fox, reach north of $30 million to settle an election interference case. You may remember, during the. At the heat of the election, when Kamala Harris was being interviewed by CBS and they asked her a little bit something about Benjamin Netanyahu, and we're going to play this. This is, You're going to hear what this was over. So she answered in a word salad. That didn't make a whole lot of sense.
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh?
>> Steve Jordahl: I know, I know. Kamala Harris.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is Kamala Harris. I know.
>> Steve Jordahl: Same one you're thinking of. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: A word salad.
>> Steve Jordahl: I know. But, when it. So when it aired on originally that they played the word salad, but then they remixed it for the Sunday show and made it sound. They put a whole different answer to the question. It sounded like this. Cut 12.
>> Fred Jackson: But it seems that prime, Minister Netanyahu is not listening.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Bill.
>> Kamala Harris: The work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of, many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
>> Fred Jackson: But it seems that, Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.
>> Kamala Harris: We are not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States. To be clear, about where we stand on the need for this war to end.
>> Steve Jordahl: So that was. You heard the question twice. The first was the word salad answer. The second wasn't a whole lot more coherent, but at least it was in. I mean it didn't have a whole lot of pauses and awkward stuff.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They did more than, I mean they did that throughout the interview, is that correct?
>> Steve Jordahl: that's the one that. I don't know of anything else but that, that edit alone was enough.
President Trump sued CBS 60 Minutes for defamation; settled out of court
The President claimed to, that CBS was interfering with the election. Remembers in the middle of the campaign in 2024. He won that, well, he didn't win. They settled out of court and CBS and Paramount are going to be paying him millions of dollars. And this is the third victory in m. Short order for President Trump over media. ABC had to pay him $15 million in December of 2024. And that.
>> Tim Wildmon: What was that for?
>> Steve Jordahl: That was. I gotta hear. Do you remember Fred?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: It was a George Stephanopoulos thing, something that George Stephanopoulos said about Trump, very derogatory. And so, Trump sued him for defamation. It was a defamation suit because it was a lie. Yes, right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: And then he won $25 million for Meta for having his social media accounts blacked out during the,
>> Tim Wildmon: That's after the January 6th.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And and so also on the horizon, he is suing the Pulitzer board because the Pulitzer committee awarded a bunch of Pulitzer Prizes to New York Times and, and Washington Post and all these people who, who are reporting flat out lies about the Russia hoax. They got Pulitzers for him. So he is suing. And a judge just recently, within the last two weeks has said that that case can move forward. and then there are other cases. The media is being held accountable for it. Remember Nick Sandman, that little kid in Washington D.C. who was being confronted by the shaman that was beating the drum in his face and the media accused him of being racist and everything. He sued because it turned out it was exactly the opposite, of the story that they reported. And he was, was winning undisclosed amounts, but it's rumored from cnn, several people that he won from.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's the moral of the story, Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: Moral of the story is that the Piper, is being paid.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Another way of saying that is the paying the price.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, the media is starting to be held accountable. They thought that they. Because there was a lawsuit back in the 60s called New York Times vs. Sullivan, which set a really, really, really high bar for media, outlets to be Sued over.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm kind of, I'm kind of surprised that President Trump won the CBS 60 Minutes case. Here's the reason, for the First Amendment free speech. I mean, CBS is a company, they can edit anything they want to, after they do an interview with a celebrity or a politician. Now, it doesn't mean that the celebrity or politician doesn't have to do the. I'm giving you. Listen, I think, I think what they did was election interference in the sense that. I'm talking about cbs in the sense that they saw what Kamala Harris did. They are liberal. She's liberal. They agree that Trump doesn't need to be president. So we, CBS 60 Minutes. We don't need to make, we don't let, we need, we don't need to allow Kamala Harris to look bad if we can do anything about it. So let's do something about it. Let's clean up the interview for her. That's what they did. And then, and then, and then President Trump's team said, no, that's, you're interfering with an election. You're not being an honest broker in the media. And so, well, it was.
>> Wesley Wildmon: To my knowledge, it wasn't presented as an edited version. It was understood as this was done in real life.
>> Tim Wildmon: They didn't say we've. This is edited.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, this is a live, it was a pre recorded live or it was understood as a lab.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: It was also a case of the timing of this, this interview was in October just before the election. And so it was quite obvious that what CBS at 60 Minutes people did, they played the word salad in a promo for the show, but then removed it when they actually did the 60 Minute show on Sunday night. So that raises suspicions.
CBS is in negotiations to buy another media outlet which needs FCC approval
But there's a sidebar story to this, that the mainstream media is bringing out that Paramount, CBS is in the midst of negotiations for taking over another media outlet which needs FCC approval. So rather than fight this Paramount, CBS is let this go because they want the approval of this venture that they are attempting to do.
>> Tim Wildmon: So they're buying off, well, federal government.
>> Steve Jordahl: There are a couple things to point out here. First of all, it was a settlement. They did not win the case. They settled. And it wasn't a First Amendment case. This was an fuc, a Federal Election Commission case. So no one's challenging, or in this case, they didn't challenge the media's right to have freedom of the press as guaranteed in the First Amendment. That wasn't an issue.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so President Trump can But President Trump can claim I won.
>> Steve Jordahl: He can.
>> Tim Wildmon: I won the case. They. Cbs, was biased against me. They tried to help my opponent, and they paid the price, so.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And out of all of this, you avoided us having to listen to the cackle, so I appreciate that. Yeah, you will, have easily done that.
>> Tim Wildmon: And where's Kamala Harris? What's her next step politically? Fred.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So she's done. Oh, sorry. Fred's turn.
>> Tim Wildmon: You answer for Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Hey, listen.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the time turkey at.
>> Fred Jackson: Thanksgiving, by the time the Democrats try to figure out what to do, how they're going to move forward, because they got all these wackos out there that are gaining ground within the party. To them, Kamala Harris might look pretty good when we roll around to 2028.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's sad.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, please, oh, please, oh, please, oh, please.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, yes, that's what a lot of Republicans are saying. You want her in the top of the ticket. Hey, Tim Walsh, the governor of Minnesota, he thinks he has a chance.
>> Steve Jordahl: They're also trying to do a rehabilitation on Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden. Well, I'm just pretty sure he's done.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, these people, the ones you mentioned, will never make it out of the minor leagues. No, they're not making it to the.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They're not making out of a ball.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna tell you. No, no, no. A ball. They're. They're stuck at a ball. Kamala Harris, she got put up there.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Fun. Everybody get.
>> Tim Wildmon: She got put up there in the major leagues for, like, a season, because she was a DEI hire. That's right, basically. And then she proved she couldn't hit, and now, she's demoted back to single a ball. If she's even going to be in the pros at all.
>> Steve Jordahl: You know, listen. You know, they're talking about. Now AOC could be the next Democrats.
>> Tim Wildmon: What? I'm talking about these people.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I would.
>> Steve Jordahl: I would be careful what you wish for.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you're Republican, you're going. Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah, it is. I think you're onto something right there.
>> Steve Jordahl: Any major party candidate has a shot at winning because there's only two parties, and the. The margin right now is pretty thin.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell you, there are two people that I can see out there right now to keep your eye on. If you are watching politics nationally, who could emerge as leaders of the Democrat party who aren't insane lefty wackos. Okay? At least that's not their perception.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's a perception.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So they lie significantly better. But I don't. But now I haven't seen these two people interviewed, but, like, once or twice. And I can, I can't even, I can't even recall the, the one of them's names, but I do know, I do know they, they're very telegenic. And, they are. That is these two people. The Governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro. Josh Shapiro. Keep your eye on him, because he can emerge as, a leading, as the leader of the Democrat Party. And there's a caveat there, I want to mention. Just a minute. But also the governor of Maryland. What's his name?
>> Steve Jordahl: I gotta look that up.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's, African American gentleman, Westmore.
>> Fred Jackson: Huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Is that right? Westmore.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's a governor. Is it Say he's the governor, Mary? Yeah, him. Yeah.
Josh Shapiro: For Democrats to emerge, they have to overcome rabid left wing opposition
Westmore. That. He's very well spoken. He's very telegenic, just like Shapiro. And you know, in the modern, in the modern day, you've got to be good on tv. Let's just face it. You do, you just do. You got to be good on your feet, quick on your feet. You got to be good on television, which has helped President Trump, you know, his ability. I think President Trump's background in television with the Apprentice show, helped him immensely. not only did he already have national popularity and, name recognition when he ran, but also he knows how to handle the media and television. So. But anyway, back to this. we were talking about all these wackadoodles in the Democrat Party. Those two fellows right there are not wackadoodles. They're smart people who could emerge. I'm not. I don't.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They're like, they're like Obama. They can say they're.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They're against gay marriage.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't agree.
>> Wesley Wildmon: In office. And then switch.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't agree with their politics.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: They are. They are both, on the left.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, I'm just telling you, they could, they could potentially appeal to, enough voters to be elected. Go ahead.
>> Fred Jackson: I would add one more to your list.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
>> Fred Jackson: The governor of Kentucky.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: Andy Beshear.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Now, also, the governor of Michigan, she's still not out of the picture. M. Yeah, she's kind of tainted a little bit. But I will say this, though. There's a couple things here. There's a fight in there. There's. For these names that we mentioned to emerge, they're going to have to Overcome the rabid, yes. Left wing, I don't know what you call mob out there. That now is where the energy is and where. Who controls the Democrat Party.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Fred Jackson: Because.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because these people we mentioned are going to be going to be considered quote, too conservative or too mainstream moderate for the aoc, squad, crowd and said the Bernie Sanders, there's.
>> Steve Jordahl: A fight going on.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Tim Wallace for that matter, he'll.
>> Tim Wildmon: Be considered too far left too.
>> Steve Jordahl: Gavin Newsom's hat was in the ring until the fires and the missing fires and then the riots in la, really have taken him out of the running. Shapiro is going to have the same problem. You know, they were considering him to pair, as Kamala Harris's running mate.
>> Tim Wildmon: He better be glad that didn't happen.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, yeah, but the reason that they didn't do it is because he's Jewish and there's a, viral anti Semitic, that was going in the Democrat Party.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was the caveat I was going to mention because Shapiro is Jewish. you know, does that create problems inside the Democrat Party? Because, there's. They would say these people, no, we don't hate Jews, we hate Israel. Well, guess what? That's where the Jews live.
>> Fred Jackson: That's right.
>> Steve Jordahl: So let me ask you this, Tim. What happens if, as it looks like it's happening, President Trump starts adding to the Abraham Accords and peace somehow legitimately or long term. Looks like long term breaks out in the Middle East. Does he?
>> Tim Wildmon: Breaks out. I like that.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, let's say that, let's say that happens. Let's say that, that the, the. Because there's now a ceasefire announced, for 60 days between Israel.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. We haven't mentioned that yet.
>> Steve Jordahl: And the, the, the. But if, if Israel is not in the front and center of a war, do the Democrats take that off? There's. Do you stop protesting the Jews? Do we stop being Palestinian flags all over? And does that take that out as an issue in the Democrat Party paving the way for someone like a Josh Shapiro to.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, listen, I don't care if the Democrats win another race in the history of the world, okay? But I'm just telling you that for Unless they change their positions on on things which I don't think is going to happen, at least anytime soon, but they're, they are out of touch. They. The Democrat Party as it exists today on a national level with they're out of touch with Americans, mainstream. M. I'll say a majority of Americans. That's why they lost the Senate, they lost the White House. So unless they change that and they're going to continue to lose elections. Now, they're not going to lose in New York or California, but they're going to lose in, purple and red states, obviously.
>> Fred Jackson: I tell you what, if this communist in New York City is elected mayor.
>> Tim Wildmon: Matt.
If he follows through with what he publicly said he plans to do
>> Fred Jackson: Danny. And he does what he publicly said he plans to do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: That will end the hopes of the Democratic Party in 28. If they're willing to elect a guy like that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.
>> Fred Jackson: And he follows through with what he's threatening to do, that'll set the alarm bells off across America.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it's,
The left will believe anything I want you to play, Sam
Anyway, we got, one minute left. You got anything? You got any happy news, Steve? happy news.
>> Steve Jordahl: I have some humorous news. the left will believe anything I want you to play. I'm going to play the latest conspiracy theory in the left. This is cut 11, guys.
>> Speaker F: They're throwing the deportees out of the planes and into the ocean. No, this is not a drill. No, this is not fear mongering. They're shackling people flying out into open ocean and throwing them out. Okay. The flight patterns, there's people tracking them on this app. The, the flights going out with the deportees, watching them go out to open ocean and circle back. a family in Italy saw, five shackled bodies wash up on the shore.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: they'll believe anything as long as it makes.
>> Tim Wildmon: What was that we just heard?
>> Steve Jordahl: That's actual. What's the, the conspiracy theory that's going around on the left? people of the anti Trump persuasion.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, they're. That ICE is taking deportees, putting them on planes, sending them out to the.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ocean, throwing them off the plane. Yeah, with. They'll believe anything as long as there's.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No witnesses for that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, well, okay then.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, time for lunch. thanks for listening to the program today, everybody. We hope you have a wonderful rest of your Wednesday and, join us tomorrow for another edition of today's Issues. And keep listening to afr. Take care.
>> Fred Jackson: Sam.
