Tim, Ed and Wesley talk with Fred on top news headlines of the day including a discussion on how the Democrat Party is divided.
Wesley Biblical Seminary is developing trusted leaders for faithful churches
>> Hello, my name is Andy Miller, and I'm the president of Wesley Biblical Seminary based in Ridgeland, Mississippi. We are developing trusted leaders for faithful churches, and we do that based on the authority of scripture and in the reality that Christians can be transformed. We do that also through bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees.
>> We'd love for you to learn more about Wesley Biblical Seminary at WBS Edu, where we're developing trusted leaders for faithful churches.
Welcome to Today's Issues on American Family Radio Network
>> Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Wednesday, July 16, 2020. Not much happening in the world, so we return you to our regular schedule programming. All right, so this is live radio on American Family Radio, and we do. Thank you for listening. Joining me in studio is Wesley Wildmon. Good morning, Wesley.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning. Glad to be here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I'm glad. I like that attitude. And, I was going to introduce Ed Battagliano first, as I always do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But he had a mouthful of Diet Coke.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, he had a mouthful of Diet Coke going down the throat, so couldn't do that. So. Good morning, brother.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim and Fred Jackson.
>> Fred Jackson: Howdy. Howdy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fred's our news director for American Family News. So, it's four of us today, ladies and gentlemen. And I would just be a smarty and say, like it or not, it's the four of us.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So no guest?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, we have no guests. We're gonna carry this show by ourselves for an hour and a half.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, man.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, Jenna Ellis, our on air personality, well, she's more than that. She's more than a personality.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: But she's, been, been under the weather a little bit. So we've been struggling for a live show on that program. Bishop B W Jackson's filled in some, and, Fred might have. Fred's on the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's on standby.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's on standby for tomorrow. So hopefully Jenna will be well enough to come back and do the show live. But, anyway, it is a challenge sometimes to do so much live radio as we do here, right? American Family Radio.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta have, you gotta have a bench.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Unlike Sports analogy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Unlike the Democrats, who don't have a bench. They don't even have a starting lineup.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, that's, that's true.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who are they sending out there, Ed, right now?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you know, they got like this Zoran Mamdani.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In New York City.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's like, he's like a superstar for them. And he's a communist. It's like saying, well, we're going to our starting pitchers. Fidel Castro.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So, anyway, yeah, the sports analogies. I was waiting for that aoc. I would say that he goes, give her her.
>> Tim Wildmon: Give us her full name.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Alexandria Cortez. I'm going back to my.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Tim. Tim. Tim.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Such a distraction.
>> Ed Vitagliano: A while to get it, down. But now that he's. He's had it down for two, three.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm going back to my college journalism. Degr did get a degree. And that we were always told before you abbreviate something in an article or a conversation, you give the proper person and title first, and then you can call her AOC or whatever you want to, as far as I'm concerned.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So you're saying that's the reason why you put.
>> Tim Wildmon: I interrupt people. Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Not because you wanted to rub his nose.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm just trying to be proper.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And we're proper here on this show.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And the point was.
>> Tim Wildmon: Your point was back to your point.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Is, is that, it seems to me he's either equal to or past her on the scale of you talking about the politically left.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mom. Donnie.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Mom, Donnie.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's his first name?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Zoron.
>> Tim Wildmon: You got to admit, that's a cool name. I don't care if he is a communist.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Zoron.
>> Tim Wildmon: Zoran Mamdani.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Like Zorro.
>> Tim Wildmon: He can take.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Sounds like a dictator.
Wesley: Superman could take on Zoran Mandani in Manhattan
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that are a superhero. Or he could take on, Zoran Mandani takes, on Superman in Manhattan. Who's not paying for that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm gonna go with Wesley on this. It sounds like a super villain.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what, you know, the regime of Zoron Momdani.
>> Tim Wildmon: And in this corner, Zorani.
Wesley: American family radio is available anywhere you want 24.7
All right, a lot to talk about today on the program. A lot happening in our world. We thank you, as always, for listening, Wesley. If people want to watch this year's show or, be aware of our podcast. How do they do that?
>> Wesley Wildmon: If you want to watch it, you can go to our streaming platform that stream afa.net if you want to listen to it and you don't want to be interrupted by your radio, by your car radio running at a signal. You can listen to anywhere you want 24. 7 in any location with afr.net or download our AFR app.
>> Tim Wildmon: People, are downloading our AFR app by the tens of thousands. And. And people. So people are able to listen to American family radio anywhere they go. M. Where they travel, they collision day of. Or even if they don't, aren't able to listen.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Signal restriction restrictions.
>> Tim Wildmon: And one of our. One of our traditional radio signals with our tower. by the way, we're buying a station, gentlemen, and, new station becoming online very soon in Des Moines, Iowa. Oh, great. Great.
>> Fred Jackson: Fantastic.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. If our credit line's good enough, then we'll be able to buy that station.
Wesley says he started getting scam calls after hanging out with you
>> Wesley Wildmon: Speaking about credit line, if y' all got any more recent texts of your getting a pre approved for your $30,000.
>> Tim Wildmon: I get calls. They don't mess with texts.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You get calls?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yesterday was the first day. I hadn't had one in, like, two weeks.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It's been about three days.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a scam call, you know. You know, but it's from Vanessa.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I get.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or it's from Jonathan. Jonathan and Vanessa. And they telling me I am pre. Appro.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: For a loan. and all I need to do. They're in the California office.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Of, what company? They don't say.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they want you to call them. If you call them back, you can speak to one of their representatives or ask for Vanessa. And she just needs a couple more pieces of information, like your Social Security. Social Security. And your bank routing number. And then. And then you're. You're going to have that loan coming your way. You may put you in touch with her.
>> Ed Vitagliano: no.
>> Tim Wildmon: Got her number right here. She said call back.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm sorry. I'm already helping out a.
>> Tim Wildmon: you gotta pay. I've got to pay your toll bridge fee.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm already helping out a prince in Nigeria. That's all I can afford to do right now.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so you get those two, Wesley?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Anyway, I didn't start getting them until I started hanging around you, though.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I don't know. I don't know why that is. Maybe I have this effect on people, but. Yeah, yesterday was the first time I got one of those.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I've never gotten any of those calls. Well, now I don't answer them, and I don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I don't answer them either. You don't. You don't ever answer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: there are people that I've seen on, you know, Facebook or whatever, who. Who like answering these calls and then tormenting the person.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Called them. You ever see these? Yeah, they have this whole thing laid out. They place and they deserve everybody. Yeah. And then they drive these people Crazy. And I just.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sometimes that would be a funny call, to listen to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, no, they'll. They'll post.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not talking about a, I'm not talking about a legitimate company that does, rope. What do you call? This may be a legitimate. I don't know. No, I don't think it is. But these companies that do telemarketing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Like for your, your.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I don't really like that either. But I'm talking about straight up scammers. Thieves.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I'm talking about. I'm talking about the, Well, some of them are scammers that call and they. And they string them along. It's. It's a beautiful thing.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen to my young. These scammers yell at them on the phone.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yeah. My youngest daughter used to do that. You know, this is years ago, but when they, you know, it was a scam call.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: She said, dad, let me pick it up. And so they would, they would ask, is, is. Is Fred Jackson there? He did.
>> Tim Wildmon: He did he just silent, like stuck and like, she's from Vietnam.
Americans are contacted at least once a week by scam spammer,
birds. He did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You want rice?
>> Tim Wildmon: You can call him, but I don't know where to call.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The roaming charges are going to get you.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, yeah. do you know, I was reading that. Seriously, Americans are contacted at least once a week, either email, text, or phone call by scam spammer, spam scammer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Scammers and spammy spammy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, it's a real. It's annoying.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Spam spam.
Brad Friedman: If we start using skimmer and scammer, we're vulnerable
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Brad, what's happening in our world?
>> Fred Jackson: One more on scam. Maybe people aren't aware of it yet. Saw a video the other day, you know, on some. Where you go to fill up your car with gas.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: You can tap your credit card or whatever They've taken now to putting a, mask. Just sticking a mask over that. The scammers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: So you tap that and they get all your credit card information.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Fred. We need one more thing to worry about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't. I don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you serious?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I, know I don't use the tap feature.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think they call that skimming or something like that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, the skimmers. That may be a form of skimming. The skimmers were those things they would put into the yes slot where you.
>> Fred Jackson: Slide something totally different.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Different.
>> Fred Jackson: This is just when you use your. Tap your card.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I can't take y' all serious. And we're gonna probably have to move on. If we start using skimmer and scammer. And multiple versions of skimmer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The Skipper.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The Skipper Scammer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: let, me just say this one other thing that. And I'm. I'm sure this is still a thing, but if you're in public in, like, an. There are people who have devices that will. If you just have cards in your wallet, they will read the information off it.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so that's why a lot of people use, My son uses a type of wallet that is supposed to block that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. So. Well, there is something called cash. I don't know if you guys have heard about this, but.
>> Fred Jackson: Cash.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You mean, like the guy in charge.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like the famous singer, you know, Remember him? Cash. Oh, cash. Like the FBI guy. No, yeah, it's, Listen, you got to be on. You got to be aware. Yep. Now, on your toes. Of the, What we. Now, you're. Ah. your wife had credit card or debit card?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. listen, we've been. We've been hit before. My daughter, during COVID after Covid, she was filing her. She filed her, her taxes and then got contacted by the FBI and said, you didn't include two separate letters. You didn't include your income from some sort of welfare program in Nashville. And she got one regarding, Columbus, Ohio, and someone had stolen her identity and gotten, welfare payments. And the IRS was saying, you're gonna have to pay taxes on that. My daughter had to prove she did not live in those two cities. And now the IRS was very cooperative after that. And they said. But they said that happened a lot during COVID Oh, and my. And my wife. Yeah, she had her, debit card hacked twice or whatever. She used it somewhere, and then someone had grabbed the information and. And used it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you're debit. Your debit and credit cards are out there everywhere. I mean, you go in any store using. You wonder. Now, maybe there's some kind of a, I'm sure there's some kind of security protection, but, I mean, what if somebody.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They got to be some. Some legal lawsuit.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it probably doesn't, but I'm just talking about what you hand an employee of a restaurant your credit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Here's my credit. I want to pay for the metal meal.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you remember you had points taken. Stolen.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
College football teams had a lot of points stolen by skimmer scammers
>> Ed Vitagliano: At a particular store, wasn't it?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Airline points.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, my college football teams had a lot of points stolen.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: if you look down through their history, should have won a lot more games, but just. It's terrible injustices.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Those skimmer scammers.
Donnie and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez had a date this morning
>> Tim Wildmon: Red, tell us about some injustices done in the world today.
>> Fred Jackson: well, we'll save that for a moment.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, let's start with you got good news, bad news.
>> Fred Jackson: well, you guys have been talking about Sauron, Ma'. Am. Donnie and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. They had a date this morning. A breakfast date.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, that's lovely. A lovely couple.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, AOC One could say they desert each other. Anyway, she invited, Mamdani down to Washington this morning for a breakfast because she wanted to introduce, her. Well, she's endorsed him for mayor of New York. She wanted to introduce him to Democrats in Washington D.C. you know, get to know him. Well, this event was supposed to start at 8 o' clock Eastern time. And Fox News had a reporter outside as of 8:00, when this thing was supposed to start.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Three Democrats has showed up. That's it. Gerald Nadler was one of them.
>> Tim Wildmon: A few others, he didn't need to be there.
>> Fred Jackson: Chuck Schumer did not show up. Apparently, for this. I know where you go with that. Anyway, as, as you might expect, President Trump was asked if he was invited to this event. And as you might expect, he had some interesting things to say. Cut three.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Tomorrow morning here in Washington, AOC is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hosting Goran Mahdani for breakfast.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Are you invited? I'd love to be. I'd really love to go.
>> Fred Jackson: I mean, I look forward to meeting them both.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I know them both very well through what I read and through what I see. look, he's a communist. I don't think our, country is ready for a communist, but we're going to see.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, they interviewed a few of the Democrats that came out and they were non committal in their support for Mamdani. Just kind of stayed away from it all. You know, he's, he's making a lot of news lately. he's for one of the stories that's out there this morning. He says he will discourage the use of the term globalize. The intifada. All right. It's really interesting. He and his dad are reinterpreting some of the things that they have said. His dad is a, professor at Columbia, I believe it is. And he has stated publicly in the past that, you know, those suicide bombers really aren't that bad. They shouldn't be referred to as terrorists and that sort of thing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: His Mamdani's father said that?
>> Fred Jackson: Yes, yes, his father has said that. so like father, like son. I guess it is. But no dami now has, said he wants to discourage the term globalize, the intifada. And at one point too, he tried to interpret the term intifada. Has basically fighting for rights. No intifada for a long, long time now has referred to go out and kill the Jews. That's the bottom line in all of this. I think the shock for the American people, is that he has been. Won the nomination to represent the Democratic Party in the marital race there in New York. It's hard to believe that even New Yorkers would do this given what he has said, what he plans to do in New York.
Mandani won the Democrat primary and usually whoever wins that wins the race
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. In New York City, you have, by the way, you have a mayoral contest. That's what we're talking about. Fella. Mandani won the Democrat primary and usually whoever wins that wins the race, right? Yep. You have had very few Republicans win the mayor's race in New York City. You had Rudolph Giuliani and then you had. Was, it Michael Bloomberg. Okay, so these, Democrats usually win. Now a couple things there. The race isn't over. There's going to be a race. The, general election will be in November. And so. But the problem for the Democrats, excuse me, for the. In beating. There was a very low turnout, by the way, in New York City for this, m. Because voter suppression or voter depression, probably because, Adams, the current mayor, he's been under scandal, you know, under indictment and everything. I don't know the whole story there. But then you had Cuomo, former governor of he's the other one. So there's. He had his own. Remember that. The nursing home scandal.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So what I'm saying is they don't have a lot to choose from right there now in New York City. So, but the general election will be, interesting to see. a lot of people say if it's one on one, you know, somebody has a good chance to beat him or a decent chance to beat Mandani and keep a, quote, communist from becoming a, mayor. The mayor of New York City. He also said at one time he would if, Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime, minister of Israel came to New York and he was mayor, he would have him arrested. Yep. Remember that?
>> Tim Wildmon: So I also saw a clip last night of an intern who works for him, who worked for. Worked for Mandani. An intern, a lady Muslim lady. She had on all the Muslim garb and she was confronting police during some kind of deal. She said, look at the. Look at the names on these pigs badges. She was very. And he's. He's made some statements. Very anti police.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. He's for defunding the police.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So you got a lot of radical ideas.
>> Wesley Wildmon: If you were to go to his website.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Which I'm at right now.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And you were to look.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Half of his endorsements would be hidden or not discussed or be. Or not be connected with other Democrats, for example. Most Democrats would. Another way of saying that most Democrats would not. They would take money and appreciate the endorsements of everybody, but they would not be proud of the ones he's put on his website. And I'll just list a couple of them. One of them is New York City Democratic Socialist of America has funded and supported his campaign. another one here is, Oh, the Muslim Democratic Club of America of New York City has, supported him. that's just. Okay. And you got Jamal Bowen, Leticia James, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders just to list a few. These are people that said, hey, this is the guy. He's for us.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Even your average Democrat was like, would probably be.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know who's the first one? you said,
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, the first one was the New York City Democratic Socialist of America has funded his campaign.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I had talked to them about supporting my campaign there. Didn't get. Didn't. Didn't get. Get anywhere.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Did not.
>> Ed Vitagliano: With. No, with mum. Donnie.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, with. Well, no, I was gonna.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The socialist.
>> Ed Vitagliano: With the Democratic Socialists of America.
>> Tim Wildmon: I was gonna run, but decided not to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's. He's for all kinds of radical policies, including city owned grocery stores.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Which.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let's go wrong there.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You gotta drive.
>> Fred Jackson: I've never been tried before.
>> Tim Wildmon: This guy is.
This guy is he, uh. He's promising free stuff for everybody
This guy is he, He's promising free stuff for everybody.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Says no. Free child care. Who wants to send their kids to a place where there's no incentive.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: For the workers to do. To do anything.
>> Tim Wildmon: Free housing, free health care, free. Free school.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Everything Free.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know who's going to pay for it? The millionaires and billionaires. Well, you guess what they're doing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're leaving.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're leaving New York City even now.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now they're free Diet Cokes.
>> Tim Wildmon: well, it's going well.
>> Ed Vitagliano: wait a second.
>> Tim Wildmon: It'll sell his soul. Communist party.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Let's not Cokes and pizza.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go for it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Get too hasty here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Every man has his price.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Every man's got his price. Mine or pizza?
>> Tim Wildmon: Mine's pizza.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Diet Coke.
Former President Barack Obama chastised the Democratic Party for being cowards
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story. Fred, enough New York City mayor talk.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, it's, it's kind of connected because the Mamdani story is part of the larger story for the Democratic Party right now. They are seriously, seriously divided on which way to go. Former, President Barack Obama kind of chastised his party the other day. Smarten up, guys. Let's get on to some serious business.
>> Tim Wildmon: Here because of their losses and so forth.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, absolutely. And, his chastisement, did not go over well with people like Whoopi Goldberg, etc. Etc.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Intellectual giant.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. And podcaster Charlemagne. Anyway, here's a little bit of their objection to Obama's chastisement. Cut number one.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We've been saying Democrats were cowards for a decade.
>> Tim Wildmon: We've been saying Democrats need to toughen up and that cowardice is, you know, why we're in the position that we're in now. So it's just wild to hear President.
>> Fred Jackson: Obama say that now.
>> Tim Wildmon: As if Democrats haven't been cowards.
>> Ed Vitagliano: For the past decade. This has not been about Democrats laying back. This has been about y'. All. Democrats have been angry and at what this man tried to do the last time.
>> Tim Wildmon: They've been angry this time.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is patently poor advice. Democrats have to toughen up, to resist more, to oppose Trump more. I mean, that's all they've been doing for the last eight years since he first took office. And now all I know is Donald Trump is president. Republicans control the Senate, the House, more governorships, are red than blue, and the Supreme Court is six, three. So that's what all this resistance has got. The Democratic Party.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, that was, Fox's Joe Concha, responding to their complaints.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Barack Obama still is a heavyweight in the Democrat Party. Former president, two time president to serve two consecutive terms. So his, you know, he would, I, guess he would be still considered a leader in the Democrat Party, although I don't know how much his.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. But influence, I wouldn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know his influence has waned because, when you just aren't able to win on another election or so, that kind of hurts you there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I think the Democrats are in huge trouble because the Barack Obamas and even the advisors to Bill Clinton during the Clinton years, those people are all being shoved to the side by the AOC or now the M, you know, Zoran Mamdani, aoc, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, they're all supporting this guy. I mean, that tells me that the direction of the energetic base of the Democratic Party is heading full speed towards outright communism and at this point, the American people are far from that. They are just going to continue. The Democrats, I think they continue pushing this, they're going to continue to lose because the base wants m more and more radical policies. The American people, barring some cataclysm, if you have some sort of cataclysm in this country and a great Depression, maybe you can convince growing numbers of people to go commie. Okay? But barring that, with the economy going in the right direction, the, the American people aren't going to vote for the now. New York probably, probably will elect this guy simply because, a lot of people, a lot of voters in New York are probably just going to check the Democratic box.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, we're going to be back, with more of today's issues after this timeout. Tim, Ed, Wesley and Fred. So we'll be back momentarily.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sam.
Over 60% of abortions today happen through the abortion pill
>> Ed Vitagliano: This June 24th marks three years since Roe v. Wade was overturned. But here's what you may not know. Abortion numbers have surged to a 10 year high. The battleground has shifted from the courtroom to our homes. Today, over 60% of abortions happen through the abortion pill. Taken in silence, often alone, PreBorn Network clinics are standing in the gap, meeting women in their most desperate hour. And here's what they're Young mothers, terrified and misled, are delivering their babies, tiny, perfectly formed, onto bathroom floors. These precious babies, once called just tissue, now lie lifeless. 11% of these women who take the abortion pill will suffer seriously health complications. Countless others carry emotional scars for a lifetime. When you give to preborn, you're not just saving a baby, you're saving a mother too. You're giving her hope, financial support and the truth. PreBorn has already rescued over 350,000 babies. But there are so many more who need our help. Your tax deductible gift makes this mission possible. To donate now, dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250 baby. Or go to preborn.com afr that's preborn.com afr.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is today's issues.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Email your comments to commentsfr.net Past broadcasts of today's Issues are available for listening and viewing in the [email protected] now back.
Fred Rothenberg says anti-Semitic protests on college campuses are alarming
>> Fred Jackson: To more of today's issues.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr, American Family Radio. Tim, Ed, Wesley and Fred, Next story.
>> Fred Jackson: Fred well, since the October 7, 20 massacre of more than 1200 Israeli men, women and Children by Hamas. I think the part of the shocking story coming out of that has been the pro and anti Israel, well, anti Israel protests we've seen in this country, mostly on university campuses. Republicans have, held hearings Harvard, Yale, other, some of these major schools. Well, yesterday there was another hearing featuring some representatives of some other university, City University of New York, and, also, some other schools. And I wanted to play you a little bit of the exchanges yesterday. The first voice you're going to hear is Republican Congressman Randy Fine. He's Republican of Florida. He is also Jewish. I just want to play you a little bit of. So you get the atmosphere at this hearing yesterday, the exchange Republicans. You'll also hear the voice of Democrat Congressman from California, Mark Takano. And you can tell he's a Democrat when you hear what he has to say. Here's a little bit of the exchange yesterday. Cut number two.
>> I find the testimony today both disgusting, dishonest, and to be gaslighting. And I'm going to point it out here. We've heard that we unequivocally denounce anti Semitism, unwavering support for our Jewish students. We have a zero tolerance for policy, and we will not put up with a call for violence. So let's explore that. Emmanuel Ness, the chair of your political science department, said he supports, quote, resistance by any means necessary, which includes violence. How can you say those statements that you support your Jewish. Shut up and get out of here. Get out of here, you loser. Come on. By the way, to be clear, I hold you all responsible for this. It is the attitude that you have allowed on your college campuses to that make people think that this is okay. That is why this happens. Because you have someone like Emmanuel Ness that says resistance by any means necessary. And I assume this person still works at your school, is that correct?
>> Tim Wildmon: Any call for violence, against Jewish members of our community is entirely unacceptable.
>> Dr. Jessica Peck: So why does that, why does this person still work there?
>> Tim Wildmon: Any, any individual or faculty that has.
>> Ed Vitagliano: a complaint of, breaking our rules.
>> Tim Wildmon: We will investigate them and take the appropriate disciplinary action if warranted.
>> The Jewish students on your campus, they do not feel safe today, and you all should be ashamed about that.
>> Fred Jackson: The Trump administration has made a lot of commitments to combating anti Semitism on college campuses. Is the current Office of Civil Rights.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or ocr, equipped to fulfill those promises?
>> Ed Vitagliano: The staff has been cut by half. I understand that now the average caseload for the investigators remaining is 200.
>> Fred Jackson: Cases, per person.
>> Tim Wildmon: The majority uses hearings like this one.
>> Fred Jackson: To rail against foreign influence while their own administration routinely violates clear ethics boundaries with foreign governments.
>> Tim Wildmon: They have turned this hearing room into a kangaroo court where they. I'm getting confused on who all were here and saying what there.
>> Fred Jackson: This last voice here was Democrat Congressman Mark Takano. Basically what he was trying to say, the protests, against Israel on the campuses, the, investigations are not being dealt with because Trump cut money for these agencies, the DEI agencies on campuses. So Takano, the Democrat says this is really Trump's fault, that people aren't being disciplined for their actions against Jewish students. That was the bottom line on that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is this still going on though, these college campus? I don't see.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, the kids are all out right now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I don't think there are protests.
>> Tim Wildmon: But don't let summer vacation interrupt with protesting and burning things down. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, they're all going to be home.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The majority are probably the same, obviously if no one's there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think what's, what's, what's made clear by these kinds of hearings is that the students have been complaining to congressmen or whoever listens. The Jewish, Jewish students, about the fact that they don't feel safe on the campuses and the things that are said and the things that are done are allowed by the college and university administrations. And it was great line of questioning about having, I think it was the head of a department, wasn't it, at this college who's saying resist by all means necessary, which is code for whatever it takes, including violence.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So, I don't. This is not going away anytime soon. on college and university campuses, I think administrations are either supportive of the anti Semitism or let me put it this way, supportive at least of the pro Palestinian view, of geopolitics or they're scared. They're scared to take a stand and start, start expelling students and firing professors. I think they're running scared.
>> Fred Jackson: I just think this is all part of spiritual warfare. And Ed, I was talking to you last night, and this is beyond the borders of the United States. This has to do.
Government of Canada releases report on anti Semitism in Ontario public schools
the government of Canada just released a report, an investigation into anti Semitism in public schools in Ontario. Ontario, population wise, is the biggest province in Canada now. This isn't universities, this is K through 12 schools. This is little boys, little girls, elementary school, mid school, etc. Etc. Rather shocking. There have been hundreds of complaints from Jewish students of that age in Canada. This report says more than 40% of anti Semitic incidents involved Nazi salutes, assertions that Hitler should have finished the job and the like. Fewer than 60% of anti Semitic incidents referred to Israel or the Israel Hamas war. 49% of anti, Semitic incidents reported to school authorities were not even investigated. 49 almost half of the complaints. There was one in particular that I wanted to mention, and this was really disturbing. Some of these incidents against Jewish students headed up by teachers, teachers at public schools. Nearly 16% of reported incidents involved anti Israel actions or activities supported or organized by teachers or school administrators. Some teachers wore shirts with a map of Israel, the West bank and Gaza that lacked boundaries between regions and was overlaid by the colors of the Palestinian flag or emblazoned with the slogan from the river to the sea. In 2024, one Ottawa teacher noticed a six year old Jewish girl wearing a necklace with a pendant in the shape of the map of Israel. She informed the child it is a map of Palestine. When a fellow Jewish student responded it's Israel and explained it was a gift from a Hebrew school, the teacher said, your Hebrew school teachers are lying still other teachers invited speakers to talk about the Israeli Palestine conflict, but didn't invite anybody from the Israel side. And this report goes on and on and on. We're going to do our own story on this at AFN today to get response to this. But again this is K through 12 kids, even 6 year old little Jewish girls being accused of being the bad people in this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and I'll tell you something else, it's not just the Jewish students who are under pressure. It is all the other kids, the non Jewish kids who are being brainwashed into being anti Jewish and anti Israel.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: So it's not only here folks, it's, and that's why I say it's part of spiritual warfare. When you have teachers, school administrators even being critical, a little six year olds, you know, with, with a pendant on, of the map of Israel, that sort of thing. And you can, there's no other way to explain it honestly in my opinion than it's spiritual warfare. And this attack, these attacks are allowed to continue. Like I say, that's just a few examples of hundreds that have been reported in one Canadian province.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, Canada and Western Europe are often steps, down the road ahead of us.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: but we're catching up pretty quickly.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. And look what's happening in Paris. There are places where Jewish people cannot go in Paris.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, because of the influx of Muslims, by the way, the Muslim population in Ontario has increased dramatically.
>> Wesley Wildmon: This is a decade or lifetime long tactic by the Democrats is that if you think back to Israel, this wouldn't even be an issue if they had, if they, meaning Hamas, had not had created terrorism back in October of 2023, but yet it's within weeks or months. Somehow, another. This is, an attack on Jews.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: By the politically speaking.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Somehow another. We've come full circle here to where they're the problem when and when, when in reality, this wouldn't even be in the news if they, if Hamas not attacked. Right, exactly. And it's often forgotten what all they did all this.
>> Fred Jackson: well, and also, the news agencies, the way they, they continue to cover Gaza, they never, they never report this conflict could have ended within 48 hours if Hamas surrendered.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: Hamas is to blame for the death of the Palestinian people in Gaza.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: 100.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because they prolonged the war.
>> Fred Jackson: They did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Which is what they wanted. They, they don't mind their own people dying.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If it results in pressure on Israel and criticism of Israel.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't. They're not held at the same standard from a, moral standpoint or a just war standpoint. They're not held at the same standard as Israel is.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. BBC just had to cancel a documentary about the war in Gaza because they found out it was being produced by the son of a Hamas leader.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh my goodness.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, that might, that might be a conflict of interest right there.
Nielsen says Fox News Channel has more viewers than any other broadcast network
Next story. Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Well report, this morning on people's, viewing habits, where they're going on their TV to watch things. And this is really interesting folks. the headline here is Rough times for broadcast networks illustrate changing media landscape. And it really talks about the number of people turning to streaming. But the other part of this is the audience being lost by the big networks. Abc, cbs, NBC. this Nielsen ratings, also for the third straight week, Nielsen said the Fox News Channel had more viewers in primetime on weeknights than any of the, any of the main broadcast networks. Abc, cbs, NBC and Fox Entertainment. CNN is mentioned in all of this, but we were discussing at our story meeting this morning just how people are moving towards streaming, but also for the fact that Fox continues to win these ratings. That has more to do with content than technology.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you know, this is, this was kind of surprising. We were talking about this. This is Fox News basically battling it out for viewers with the entertainment, divisions of the three major networks, which for all of us growing up, except for, you know, Wesley and probably Brent, we grew up when it was three major networks. That was It, I mean, you did that pbs, but nobody watched them unless you were watching Big Bird and Sesame Street. But all the entertainment was coming through those three major networks. And not only, I think our habits changing in terms of where people go for their entertainment. That's certainly a huge factor. But I would also say that people no longer are going to tolerate watching entertainment if it mocks their views or if it is clearly biased. People just aren't standing for that anymore because they can go somewhere else. And if these, if these three big networks don't get their act together, I'm not, I'm not sure the technology won't erase them anyway. Eventually, like a lot of newspapers and so on and so forth, you can't put the genie back in the bottle when technology takes off and goes in a different direction. But if they do want to compete, they had better start producing stuff that's entertaining and doesn't take sides. Because if it takes sides, you're going to irritate and offend and drive away half your viewing audience. So stick to the entertainment. No one wants to hear what Hollywood people think about major issues. Most of a lot of them never even graduated from high school. And, and so why do we, why do we need you to lecture us people that aren't taking it anymore?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I don't mean to disagree with you, but I do care about what Whoopi Goldberg says. Maybe I'm the only one see if I can get some support here. Wesley's shaking. So I'm the only one who cares what Whoopi thinks. Okay, so be it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: listen, you'll stand on this hill. It's a hill to die on for you.
ABC is the number one watch television network with 3 million viewers on one night
>> Tim Wildmon: This is, I was shocked by this. These numbers of people and what they watch on television, not on the Internet. But, this has the ratings. I'm looking at a, one day rating. And this is Thursday, July 10th, which was. What was that last Thursday?
>> Fred Jackson: Last Thursday, less than a week ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, ABC is the number one watch on that night, was the number one watch television network with 3 million people. Okay. Bill O'Reilly in his prime. I don't know about. Tucker Carlson may have got these numbers too, but I know Bill O'Reilly was the number one show on cable news. Remember that? Remember his. Yeah, for 20 years or whatever like that. And he was, he was around 3 million a night. Okay, so, but at that time, the television networks, by that, I mean, the, the traditional abc, cbs, NBC, for example, and then Fox, you could add them not Fox News. But the bucks Entertainment, you know, they would get, 8, 10, 12 million.
>> Ed Vitagliano: People for a particular show.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so that, so that their, their numbers have even gone down since, then. Now you, you do have to say when you're adding all this up, okay, what all does ABC own now? Okay, what are their other channels that ABC or NBC or cb, cbs, for example, are, they Paramount? Who's Paramount?
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's cbs, cbs.
>> Tim Wildmon: What do they own? Because then you have to put it all together, right, to find out exactly how many viewers they would have on any particular night. But to see Fox news, number two in America with the, you know, 2.7, 2.8 million viewers on, on this again, on this one night, July 10th, then CBS, then NBC, then MSNBC and ESPN. Of course. ESPN is ABC, right? It's Disney, ABC. So you have to factor that in. But, do you know the, the other. I'll just give you the top 10. ABC, 1. Fox News to CBS, 3. NBC, 4. MSNBC, 5. I'm kind of surprised at that. But they only got a million viewers. You're talking about a country of 330 million. Okay, yes, and ESPN they don't. They're right at a million, right under a million. Of course, it's not football season yet either. A Discovery, channel number seven, tied with TBS, Fox, the Fox. Fox, not Fox News is number nine. And then HGTV number 10. And HGTV only has 517,500. 1700 thou, 5, 1, 7, 000. What is that? 517,000.
>> Fred Jackson: That's correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then. Interesting. The, the inspirational network. now I don't watch nsp, but I'm familiar with who they are. They Christian radio, Christian television. Right. Well, what are they, what is their thing? What is their big draw? Insp.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I guess just inspirational.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's not. So what was the, what was the one that was so popular for a long time? The Christian Trinity. Trinity.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're not Trinity. The insp. I used to know those. That's been 20 years ago since I, knew some of those people at INSP. They were based out of Charlotte. I think CNN's below them. Number 12. Nobody's watching CNN hardly anymore.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And MSNBC is probably below that.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, they're, they're number five.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, msnbc.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they're, they're beating cnn.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: They wave bye bye to cnn. Put them in their dust.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They're rid of Stealther. And then their numbers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, well, yes, and oh, I'm sorry.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll go on.
Name the top 20. CW number 16. Paramount, number 17. TLC. What is GSN? Is that garden or something
Name the top 20. Since I'm doing this with the top 20. bravo 13.
>> Wesley Wildmon: We got a point to this, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: We are. We're getting to a point. and my point, really, all points come back to Whoopi Goldberg. If you think about it, all.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Roads lead back to Goldberg.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or Kevan Bacon. One or the other. so hallmark number 14. What is GSN? Is that garden or something? GSN. What is that?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Is that like Game Show Network?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, Game store network number 15.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: CW number 16. Is that like. Is that cartoons?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, that's the CW. That's, that's, I think W. I, I, I.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It doesn't have a. It doesn't. You're gonna be mad, dad. It doesn't give its, an acronyms. No, no, it tells what it does. It does not get. Literally, if you click on it. All it does is it doesn't give its acronym on the Internet.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I want to say that's connected to Warner brothers.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It's like AOC, except for we actually gave the acronym.
>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe AOC. Own. CW. I know, and listen. Paramount, number 17. History Channel, 18. TLC. Tender Loving Care Net. Right. Isn't that what that is?
>> Ed Vitagliano: The CW is a network. It is controlled by nextstar.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, but that's not the question.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay? I'm answering the last question. I'm still the last question.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's like grandmother that asks you a question, then asks you another question before you finish answering it.
>> Tim Wildmon: That bothers me. The next star controls them. Nextar controls cw.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cw, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, have you never seen the movie Next?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, that's not a movie.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, it's. It's Sci Fi. Anyway, and food networks, number 20. Well, I do watch Food Network every once in a while. Guy Ferrari.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that his name? Guy with the white bleached hair?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't watch the Food Network at all. No, I don't watch. You've never seen Chocolate Watch somebody else make food?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, his. His show. His show, Diners Dives, and I have.
>> Fred Jackson: Watched some of that Drive ins and Dives.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, some of that.
>> Tim Wildmon: I like that show. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I was just gonna just comment in terms of. Of the kind of splintering of.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
Disney owns abc, espn, fx, National Geographic
Which is the point of what we're talking about right today.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So Disney, now, Disney owns abc, espn, fx, National Geographic, and Freeform.
>> Tim Wildmon: what's free form? I'm sorry to divert here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Freeform, I think that used to be T. what's the, the one owned by, it's not Trinity. What was the other Christian one that, was sold? No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. All right. You keep asking me questions. Well, there's so many thoughts upon another.
>> Tim Wildmon: I want to know where we're going.
>> Ed Vitagliano: the one owned by the,
>> Wesley Wildmon: Southern Baptist ABC World.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: Day Springs.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Stop.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm trying to help you. You said one of the Christian TV networks.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Who's the. The Christian broadcaster that ran for president in 19.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pat Robertson.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Pat Robertson. What was his network?
>> Tim Wildmon: CBN.
>> Ed Vitagliano: CBN. They. They sold that, I think, to free. I think that became Freeform. Remember, he sold it for a billion dollars.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, he. Pat, Robertson did sell, CBN to somebody. Was it abc?
>> Fred Jackson: No, he sold it to ABC and it became Freeform.
>> Brent Creely: Freeform is owned by ABC Family.
>> Tim Wildmon: Family. Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: What does Freeform do again? I asked. Is that like a rapping channel? Have you never heard of Freeform Rap? Not the only one.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, well, Brett is.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No, you're talking about freestyle rap.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I was gonna freestyle.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead. Sorry.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's all right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, let me do it on a purpose.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Let me bring some important back here. I'm just enduring it.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, I. I think we're gonna give you 30 seconds of, uninterrupted time. Go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. I was gonna say that when I watch Hulu, because Disney also owns Hulu, that streaming platform. When I watch hockey, when it gets to the playoffs, you can also watch Hulu and ABC content on usa, TNT and tbs. So my point was where people go to get entertainment has splintered into a thousand pieces.
>> Fred Jackson: That's the bottom line.
>> Tim Wildmon: But some of these companies, you may. You may say, well, why is abc? Why aren't they going out of business? Our NBC or cbs? It's because, no, they don't have the same network viewership that they once had in America, as you alluded to earlier, ed, during the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s. But, what's happened today is those. Those networks own a lot of the other.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: channels that you mentioned, and you put them all together. They probably still have the viewership out.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Of the list that you gave. What is the highest rated news network?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, Fox News.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Let me help us.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fox clearly blows the. The competition away.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And why do you think that is, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Because they are making a reasonable attempt at fair and balanced. And, they're not afraid to really promote the conservative point of view.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And they're not woke.
>> Fred Jackson: They're not woke. They're not. And, you know, it's part of a bigger revolution. Jeff Bezos owns Washington Post now.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: The Washington Post employees were told last week, you got a certain period of time, you're either going to go with our new philosophy here, or there's the door.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: So Jeff Bezos wants to make some money.
ABCs, CBSs and NBC's are promoting one side
what I can't understand is the ABCs, the CBSs and the NBC's. They still have a staff. They're promoting one side.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're. They're afraid. They're afraid to pull the trigger.
>> Tim Wildmon: I, think. Yeah, I know that.
Where does Oxygen channel rank? Somebody asked that
Had a question. Where does Oxygen channel rank? Somebody asked that. They're number 34.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I could sleep well.
>> Tim Wildmon: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.