Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to the program. I'm Tim with Ed. And now Steve Paisley Jordal joins us here. Good morning, brother Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
Steve King: Is the Jeffrey Epstein story done with now
>> Tim Wildmon: So I'd ask you, Steve, off the air, but I'll ask you guys on the air and we won't cover this very long, but is the, Jeffrey Epstein story, is that done with now? Is that in the rear view mirror?
>> Steve Jordahl: I have heard. I haven't heard a word about it since then.
>> Tim Wildmon: It is. Oh, I'm sorry. Excuse me.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's okay. I haven't heard a word about it since the revelations, of the coup that took, meant to take down Donald Trump that, came out this weekend. So that'll kick it off the headlines at least it will for conservative media.
>> Ed Vitagliano: listen, I'm not, I'm not stupid. Why would I believe. I didn't say you were. Why would I believe something like that?
>> Tim Wildmon: What?
>> Ed Vitagliano: The Epstein thing. Nobody's talking about it, so I'm not going to waste my time. See what I did there?
>> Tim Wildmon: You're quoting Trump.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it's not off the radar for me, whether it's off the radar for the Justice Department, or, you know, Pam Bondi, it seems like President Trump doesn't want to talk about it anymore. Now, I have been hearing that,
>> Tim Wildmon: Excuse me, it's not that he just doesn't want to talk about it, which would indicate maybe what is the reason for that, you don't want to talk about it. It's that, he has said President Trump, I think, has tried to bury the story such that it was, or we don't know, by saying if you believe in it, you're stupid. If you believe there's a Jeffrey Epstein, file with list of names of people who he bought off a shadow government, if you will, all those years. then you're. You believe it. You believe it. But basically Trump saying you believe in Bigfoot too.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Listen, I read something over the weekend that said that Ghislaine Maxwell, I always hesitate. I think that's how you pronounce her first name.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ghislaine.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Ghislaine.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ghislaine.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, so I've been saying it wrong.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: all right, so that, that there is a move to bring her before Congress, a Republican committee and perhaps to ask her about the so called Epstein list of people who, and maybe give her Immunity. She's already in prison. I don't think it would be immunity for what she has already been convicted of, but might be immunity for whatever new information comes out. I don't know whether that's going to come to pass. Congress can't do that with or without President Trump's approval or the approval of Pam Bondi and the Justice Department. But so that would be interesting if she comes before Congression, am I right that there is some desire on the part of somebody Congress to bring her or a committee meeting.
>> Steve Jordahl: There is some in Congress. I want to amend my answer though. just two hours ago the Hill.
>> Tim Wildmon: Put out a editorial that's a website, news website, news website.
>> Steve Jordahl: The Hill put out an auditorial. Another wonderful secret. What's going on with the Trump and Epstein files. And then of course over the weekend there was the threat of President Trump. Was it. What was the outlet that the.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wall Street Journal Journal published, published what was they said was a, a.
>> Steve Jordahl: Letter purported to be a letter that was written on Epstein's birthday many years ago and it had body remarks and.
>> Tim Wildmon: Including from Trump to him.
>> Steve Jordahl: From Trump to him. Including something about keeping wonderful secrets. And so Trump is threatening or has, is filing suit against the Wall Street Journal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh yes. Or either he has or he's going to like.
>> Steve Jordahl: So that the news.
>> Tim Wildmon: Trump's true social post.
I think this could bury the Epstein story over time
All right, well I just wanted to know where that was because you've got President Trump at war with maga. Well, as odd as that seems, that's, that's, that's where you are. Am I right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Whatever President Trump says is maga and if people are at war with it, they're kind of taking a left.
>> Tim Wildmon: Turn from mega to dictatorship.
>> Steve Jordahl: yeah, I mean it's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well he, he does define what is maga. I, I don't think this would, I don't think this has legs in terms of causing a permanent fracture within the MAGA community simply because President Trump has a lot of other things he's doing and accomplishing. And I think that over time it could bury the Epstein story. But I think this needs to be dealt with. And by dealt with, I mean President Trump needs to have, or Pam Bondi needs to have a, a serious discussion, with in front of the media, a press conference where they answer the questions, that a lot of people have. And I don't see that that's going to happen. So it's just going to be out there.
>> Steve Jordahl: CNN's talking about the Epstein files right now. MSNBC is talking about the Epstein files right now. None of them are talking about the, purported coup against Donald Trump.
>> Tim Wildmon: So we did talk about that.
>> Steve Jordahl: I know you guys did. I mean, they're not. The news isn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Kiss Cam at concerts can find couples kissing, which has become viral
All right, what's your first story?
>> Steve Jordahl: Can we talk about Kiss Cam?
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. yeah, that was. Yeah, that was.
>> Steve Jordahl: Probably should. so, ah, over the weekend, Friday, I believe it was in Boston, band called Coldplay had a concert, and as is, the habit, at, many concerts and basketball games and such, the camera will wander around and find a couple sitting together. And it's called a kiss cam. And if you're on that with your. Your significant other, your wife or your husband, your boyfriend, girlfriend, you're supposed to lean over and kiss them. I've seen it where a guy was ready for this, and when a camera got on him, he held up a picture with an arrow. Says my sister. So, but over the weekend, Kiss Cam happened to find a couple that was, ah, canoodling a little bit. They were in. In a.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They were. They were hugging.
>> Steve Jordahl: They were hugging in.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In a romantic way.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. And the kiss cam found him. And as soon as the camera went on them, the woman had a. They both got horrified looks on their face. The woman immediately turned her back to the camera and the man dove down behind the seats.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: And, the, the, lead guy at Coldplay, said, oh, well, either, they're shy or they're having an affair. Well, it turns out they were having an affair. It was the president, a CEO of a company called Astronomy. And it's, a data company. I don't think it has anything to do with telescopes, but it's a data collection and organization company. he has since, resigned.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, she was head of hr.
>> Steve Jordahl: The lady he was with was head of hr. I think she's gone too. and I was talking the other day with, our good friend Alex McFarland about this, and of course he, has some words of wisdom for all of you that, may, be thinking about privacy. If you have privacy, you don't. cut 16.
>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: The real wife, Megan Kerrigan. Byron was at home. They said that within moments there were 4,500 comments on her Facebook page. They said within hours she took her married name off of her social media platforms and at least, in the heat of the moment, reverted to her maiden name. Here's a company that just has gone vertical and suddenly is worth nearly $2 billion. Yet, while, prosperity certainly found Andy Byron, apparently character did not. The incentive to live truthfully, morally uprightly should be. Not that cameras are watching, but that almighty God is watching.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. This was, I know this has gone viral and it is, it does have.
>> Ed Vitagliano: How viral this has gone.
>> Tim Wildmon: It does have, it does have its, I mean it's easy pickings for jokes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And memes and so forth. and so this. But the sad story is this. These two families.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are impacted beyond the jokes and the memes.
>> Steve Jordahl: they had. The man has kids.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think they're both married, right? Yes, they're both married and have, kids.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know if she has kids. I assume he probably.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think I've seen a picture with her and her kids. She. He was the CEO and she was the HR director. What I don't understand is of course people do stupid things. World history is full of stupid things.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: People doing stupid things. Right. And especially when it comes to love and romance. Right. They'll do things that are, So sounds like to me, with the stupid the most. You're at a public event.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. and you're at a. So you're at a concert with 70,000 people and you're, you're fairly high profile individual. You don't think you're going to be seen out in public if you're kissing. And, and
Steve: Canoodling is a word I haven't heard in decades
What'd you say the word canoodling.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know what the exact definition of that is, but I know it's.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know that I've ever heard of that word before. I mean, I know what it means, but haven't heard it used in probably 27 years. I remember where I was. I remember where I was when I heard it used.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Doodling.
>> Steve Jordahl: I remember where I was and I remember where I was with her. Canoodling.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. So where, so. But you're at a, stadium and you're Lovey dovey.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And you, you and the, the cat. What I'm saying, even before the camera, the kiss cam goes on you and we all see what happens. She's mortified, the lady.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he, he does.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He realizes he ducks his life flash before his eyes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. So. So they're, they realized we've been caught here on, on the, on the camera. What I'm saying is what leading up to that, you don't think you could have been. Somebody could have taken a video with their cell phone.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: of you doing that in fact, somebody did of them supposedly kissing before. I don't know, it just. It's just, And now he's lost his job and she's lost her job.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He was defensive for a while, but then eventually, I'm sure defensive.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He was trying to blame Coldplay and the stadium for it. Listen, my advice is if you are going to Viva la Vida, okay, you need to make a song.
>> Tim Wildmon: Popular song by them, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cold, Cold, Cold Play song.
>> Tim Wildmon: Some people may actually like it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a catchy little song. Listen, you need to. You need to live your life God's way. I think that's what Alex McFarland was saying. But even Christians make stupid mistakes. You know, we're, we're.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Flawed and fallen people and we're,
>> Tim Wildmon: Just not on the kiss cams.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What, you're saying we're just not on. No, on the kiss cam. And he would. Anyway, this is, this is sad because the families are destroyed, marriage is destroyed. I don't know what it's going to do to the business. It's, you know, but anyway, is it. Your sins will find you out. That is what the Bible says. It also says. I forget where this is. I'm just coming off top my head here. But the Bible says that some. For some, your sins, follow you to the judgment. And, and for others, they are shouted from the rooftops or are made explicitly public. So everyone, one way or another. Yeah, one way. The other, whether it's stays hidden until the day of judgment or like in the case of this couple, it's shouted from. These guys are. This man and woman are famous worldwide now for the wrong reason. everyone is called to repentance. That's what Paul says in Acts, chapter 17.
>> Steve Jordahl: Chris Martin made a statement. he hasn't really addressed it. The lead singer of Coldplay, hasn't addressed it specifically, but he obliquely did when he, put out, a video, on social media that said, we'd like to say hello to some of you in the crowd. we're gonna do that. We're gonna use our cameras to put some of you on the big screen. So please, if you haven't done your makeup, do your makeup now.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was a subsequent concert.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah, yeah, that.
>> Tim Wildmon: He said that at. And anyway, sad, Sad and tragic story for those two families involved there. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed and Steve, next story. Steve.
Former President Barack Obama said boys need gay mentors to help guide them
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, former President Barack Obama was on a podcast Hosted by his wife and her brother and had some very interesting things to say about raising sons. Let's listen to, cut 18.
>> Barack Obama: That's one of the things that I think a lot of times boys need is not just exposure to one guy, One dad, one dad. No matter how good the dad is, dad is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He can't be everything.
>> Barack Obama: He can't be everything. And that boy may need somebody to.
>> Barack Obama: Give the boy some perspective on the dad. One of the most valuable things I learned as a guy was I had a gay professor in college at a time when openly gay folks still weren't out, who became one of my favorite professors and was a great guy and would call me out when I started saying stuff that was ignorant.
>> Barack Obama: You need that to show empathy and kindness. Right? So. So that I think is creating that community. I know it's corny, but. And that's what they need.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where did that come from? Was there any more context to that? What were they talking about? That was Barack Obama, clearly. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it's. It was on Myshel Obama's podcast. I'm not sure what the entire discussion was about.
>> Tim Wildmon: Myshel Obama's podcast?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, she's got a podcast that, that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Must not post it yet because I get her.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was from last week.
>> Tim Wildmon: Every.
>> Steve Jordahl: You might not have gotten to it for all the other podcasts. Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, no, she's one of my top five.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm just saying that this, what Barack Obama said is outrageous.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, it is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. It's outrageous because first of all, he suggested that a young, that a boy. He says a boy, boy should have more than just his dad in his life. And generally speaking, of course that is going to happen. You'll have uncles and grandparents and stuff like that. But he said you have to have an additional man in your life to give you a better perspective on your father. In other words, I guess to call your father out and tell the boy where the father has gone wrong, but then to state that young men and boys need a gay sort of a gay mentor. He didn't use that word, but he mentioned the college professor in the context of having homosexual men needed in a boy's life for guidance. He goes on in this. We, didn't run the whole clip, but he goes on to telling Myshel that boys need homosexual men to tell them about homosexuality and to give them the other perspective. This is the mindset of the left that parents are inadequate, that you don't need a mom and a dad. You can have two Dads, or you can have two moms, that the dads should. Someone should be checking to make sure the dad's doing it right and telling the boy if he's not. And then to say that homosexuals should be part of a boys, kind of community of men. This is the m. Mindset of the left. And they keep going further and further away, I think, from where most people are in this country. And this is only going to hurt their political prospects in the future. And I just say, good, because this kind of thing should be harmed, this kind of ideology.
In N Out Burger is moving from Southern California to Nashville, Tennessee
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Steve, there is a diaspora going on.
>> Tim Wildmon: A what?
>> Steve Jordahl: A diaspora.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're kidding.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I know I'm not.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I put that on sometimes. If I cut my finger or something, I'll put some diaspora on it, you know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, it has multi. Sir. Yeah, you can also, clean your sink with it. A lot of people don't realize that. But anyway, go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: Diaspora is a, is a spreading out of a community. could be a culture.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right? Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And it turns out that the burger world is having a diaspora because In N Out Burger is moving from Southern California where It's been for 77 years, headquartered to Nashville, Tennessee. And the reason is Lindsey Snyder, the granddaughter of the founders of In N Out, who ran their company, by godly principles. They have, scripture verses written on their cup, their drink, drink cups, cups and everything. And Lindsay runs the, business the exact same way they, have. They will not put a store in any closer than they can reach, in a certain amount of time from where they produce their own meat. So, you know, if a truck can't get there in a day or a half a day or whatever, they're not going to build there. But now they're going to. They're going to put up a, headquarters in Nashville. And I have high hopes that the diaspora will reach Mississippi.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I, I usually pronounce it Diaspora. Diaspora.
>> Tim Wildmon: How do you spell this word, fellas?
>> Ed Vitagliano: D I, A S P O, R A. You're kind of freaking me out here.
>> Steve Jordahl: Am I?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wait, Diaspora.
>> Steve Jordahl: you're probably not pronouncing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. anyway, that's, that's not, that's not important. And at this point, my wife as well. Then why did you bring it up? Happens a lot at my house.
>> Tim Wildmon: Means what?
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's like when the Jews were, When Jerusalem was conquered by the Romans.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And then the Jews were scattered.
>> Tim Wildmon: Dispersed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Dispersed.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a form of dispersed Dispersal. Okay, so, in and Out Burger, very popular in the West. Right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Coming to the south and to the east now. Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, the headquarters are Nashville. And, they would have to. How far east? They would have to build some new plants. But she says she does. The ark has been drawn and there are some new states in it. She wasn't specific, but, yeah, they're going to listen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: For those who are out in the west, you like in and Out Burger. Now, I've told this story on the air before. In 2008, we were out in California. We were making a video, for. About Proposition 8, which was to. To make male, female, marriage the law in California. They're having a big election. So we made a video. But we went out there and the team I was with said, oh, we got to go to In N Out Burger. And I'm just going to tell you. I don't get it. Okay. It was good, but these people just swear by it. They just not swear, but they. They just say, oh, in and Out Burger. but they have a secret menu.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: that. That's not up on the inside.
>> Tim Wildmon: Secret handshake.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: M. There's only, like, four items on the actual menu that you see.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. And then. And you can. You can have. Anyway, so I would be willing. I'm just going to tell you, Steve, you're a big fan of In N Out Burger. If they come to Northeast Mississippi, where our headquarters is for our radio network, I would be willing to give them a second shot.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, I think you.
>> Tim Wildmon: But.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But Nashville is going to have to do some work on its highway system, because everyone in the world and their brother is moving to Nashville. And that traffic is becoming atrocious.
>> Steve Jordahl: It is. It is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So, Nashville, get your act together.
California is killing small businesses, says Lindsay Snyder
You're inviting everybody. This. This lady seems like a nice lady. She looks young.
>> Steve Jordahl: Granddaughter, of the founder.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She's the CEO, Lindsay Snyder. Everyone looks young to me. but it's too difficult to raise kids. She said, and to. She's a smart lady.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. California is not the environment you want to raise a family in. According to Lindsay and many, many other people, my folks, including who left California, for.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Or to have a business, especially a small business.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: California is killing these small businesses with its taxes and its regulations. So good luck to In n Out. And if you come to this part of the country with your restaurants, I'll give you another. I'll give you another try.
>> Steve Jordahl: There you go.
Ilhan Omar says she hates Americans who voted for Trump
let's finish with this. Ilhan Omar Hates Americans, especially those who voted for President Trump. Cut 15.
>> Ilhan Omar: These people are just idiots. I really, you know, I'm at the point where it's become really hard to have an intellectual debate with any of these people because the level of stupidity that they are displaying every single day is frankly embarrassing. Not just, in Congress, but as. As Americans. And the fact that these people are allowed to say just the most ridiculous things, tells you that the dumbing of the United States has arrived. Because how else do we get a Trump presidency again?
>> Steve Jordahl: I think Somalia is calling, wants her back.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's where she's from originally, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: well, listen, this is part of the problem in American politics. Both sides are calling the other side stupid.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, so she basically said she can't talk to conservatives or Republicans because they're stupid. How does she know they're stupid? Because they voted for Donald Trump. Well, that's. That's not an argument. it's. That is a personal attack. And our man. I. I can barely get on social media anymore because this kind of hostility is just exhausting, and I've been exhausted over about, you know, what I know about it for a long time.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what you need, brother?
>> Ed Vitagliano: What?
>> Tim Wildmon: You need an in and, out. Hamburger.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, you do you do I. I. With a nice scripture on the bottom of the cup so when I'm done drinking it, I can look at it.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can be inspired. All right. Thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.
Steve: We gave Fred a participation trophy instead of a trophy
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, Steve is wearing a paisley shirt to today.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, I am.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: he is doing the paisley people proud.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. my thanks to Ed, to, Fred, of course. We gave Fred a participation trophy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Earlier.
>> Steve Jordahl: Wait a minute.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think we gave him a plaque instead of a trophy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, if he used some crest, he got rid of that plaque.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks to Brent Creeley, our producer. We'll see you tomorrow, everybody.
