Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordah
>> Tim Wildmon: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association. Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Issues, the name of this program here on afr. Tim, Ed and Wesley. And now Steve Paisley Jordah joins us. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: How you doing?
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm well.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, so, you wear. You wear long sleeves, a lot in the summer, don't you?
>> Steve Jordahl: It's, hard to find paisley shirts that are short sleeves.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that a. Well, well, is that a neat. Go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I think. What? Because obviously you got a water color shirt on today.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But, it is hard to find colorful either watercolor or paisley or anything like that that are interesting, that are short sleeve.
>> Steve Jordahl: And besides, it's 72 degrees where I work all year long.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You know, I think we probably need to do more fashion, on this show. I don't care what you don't think.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You ever heard of, like antimatter?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Like in science fiction.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Or we're anti fashion.
>> Steve Jordahl: You anti fascist.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, we're anti fashion. Fanch. Fashionists.
>> Tim Wildmon: The fashion. Yeah. our fashion decisions are made just picking out the shirt we're going to wear in the morning. That.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. And half the time I go into the living room, my darling wife is drinking a cup of coffee, and I. Does this go with this?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, you ask.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Ah. Does this matter if I have a question?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Although I can't. I can't imagine more interesting radio than talking about designs on shirts.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, watercolors, that's, that's, that's a pretty cool. I've seen that you wear that before. But Wesley is right. It sort of defines your personality. You know, you're a watercolor kind of guy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Which means you're very interesting.
>> Steve Jordahl: There you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: So I try to be.
Johnny Cash: Democrats have no moral qualms about causing harm and violence
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, first story.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And the guy wearing the black shirt with the black T shirt, what are you saying about him?
>> Tim Wildmon: Mafia.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What comes to mind?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, Go, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm Johnny Cash. so have you seen, the complaints recently about ICE agents who have been going in and they've been wearing masks because the left has been taking pictures of these people, these agents. They've been doxing these agents, publishing their identity, where they live, the names of their kids, and threatening. Basically, it threatens their families by, by. That's why they're. They're masking up so that their families aren't threatened and killed and because the left is, as we know, has no moral qualms about causing harm and violence. Well, the Democrats know. No, there's nothing they, they can oppose. Let me say it this way. You don't hate the Democrats near enough. You say that about. You don't hate journalists near enough when they do stupid things. This is Hakeem Jeffries. He is the leader of the House Democrats. He's the highest ranking House member that's a Democrat. And this is what he says about agents who have to mask up to protect their identity so their families aren't targeted. Cut 11.
>> Speaker E: Every single ICE agent who's engaged in this, aggressive overreach and are trying to hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful in doing that. This is America, so not the Soviet Union. We're not behind the Iron Curtain. This is not the 1930s. And every single one of them, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will of course, be identified. That, in fact, is the law. And we're going to make sure that the American people have the transparency necessary to hold people accountable when they're folks who cross the line.
>> Steve Jordahl: Either Hakeem Jeffries, the best interpretation is that he doesn't care about the lives of these, families of these agents. Worst is he's calling for revenge upon them.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I get the need as a knee jerk. I get the first reaction as this is going on to doc, you know, as there be as some of the IS agents are being docs and threatened, I get the first reaction, well, how do we prevent this to cover the mass. I do think that there are other ways that they're going to uncover who the agents are. So I don't know if that's politically.
>> Tim Wildmon: Speak, it's going to be. That's going to stop them.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I don't think that's going to stop them enough. I don't think it's enough. I don't think it's a big enough deterrent to outweigh the.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is somebody calling for violence against ICE agents?
>> Steve Jordahl: Absolutely. Antifa types. The people that I've seen all the time on my. I saw a, video today of a guy that was in a car that said, okay, you have one chance ICE families to keep. To tell your husbands to sit their butts down and drink their coffee and not go to work. Because if they go to work and I'm anywhere around them, you're not going to see him again.
Hakeem Jeffries says every ICE agent will be identified
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, back to this, fellow here, Hakeem Jeffries. As you say, he's the top Democrat in the House of Representatives. There's a lot in what he said right there in the language that he used that was troubling to me. not that he wouldn't disagree with ICE agents wearing face covering, although I think he should acknowledge the reasons for it even. Yes, even if he's, even if he's in favor of it. He just sounds like he's a kind of person that's encouraging the doxing. And he used the expression. I want you to listen to him again. Aggressive overreach. ICE agents. Did you, did you catch that? And if I were a reporter and he would answer the question, I would ask him, Mr. Jeffries is Jeffries.
>> Steve Jordahl: Jeffries.
>> Tim Wildmon: I would ask him, what do you define for me aggressive overreach by ICE agents? Because as far as I can tell, the ICE agents are only acting to enforce U.S. federal law, against people who are in our country illegally.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're just making arrests.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're making arrests. So is making arrest acting aggressively, you know, listen closely to the things that he says here. And he also says something about, I, can't remember exactly. Something about to make sure the American people hold them accountable. Okay. Again, not. You would think somebody in his position would say, we're going to have hearings, where we're going to make the, those in charge of the ICE agency, answer questions about this. Okay, that's different. When he's talking about the American people, make sure they're accountable or something like that. That almost sounds, maybe I'm reading too much into this. Like he's one of the ones who is encouraging the doxing. I'll do the doxing right here in Congress. listen to the things he says and notice that he doesn't say anything about the role, the proper role of ICE and how they're not following that. Listen to him.
>> Speaker E: Every single ICE agent who's engaged in this aggressive overreach and are trying to hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful in doing that. This is America, so not the Soviet Union. We're not behind the Iron Curtain. This is not the 1930s. And every single one of them, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will of course be identified. That in fact is the law. And we're going to make sure that the American people have the transparency necessary to hold people accountable when they're folks who cross the line.
>> Tim Wildmon: There's a host of questions there that he won't answer. What is crossing the line?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: so the American people are going to hold transparency. means we want to know who these people are. And, and he's like, warning. It's like a warning. Every. He says every single ICE agent.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Will be identified. Anyway, I just, I find the way he framed that whole thing just,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, let me just say.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then, Wesley, you and.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah, go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I was going to read here. I'm reading an article on this topic right now, and it says, San Diego Councilman Sean Ella. Ella Vera Rivera, who branded the ICE officers, quote, he called. He called them, quote, terrorists. So if you have a, if you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Have a public official calling them terrorists.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Calling them terrorists, that's a. I mean.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, I don't know how they do their job without being seen as, as, aggressive. I don't. How do you do that?
>> Steve Jordahl: Would you please come with me? I'd like.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Knock, knock. Hey, we're here. Hey. We're here to arrest three gang members. and, hey, we're going to go down the subway.
>> Steve Jordahl: You want to meet us down there?
>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back in a couple of hours here. If y' all can have your bags packed. Yeah, then we'll go. We'll take you. you know what I'm saying? There is no way to do the job of, the mandate that ICE agents are given. It's kind of like SWAT or, FBI or atf. These people have to be. They're a different breed, really. Their psychological makeup, it's kind of like people who have to go into combat, you know, in war, they, they, they are not, they can't. They got to be prepared for the worst. They can't be the nice guys, going into that situation. So at the same time, it is America, and we have to have, law and order, and we have to have, we don't want. We don't want rogue ICE agents going out, you know, terrorizing people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: so I'm in. In general, I am opposed to masks on.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Me, too.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Government agents for different reasons.
>> Tim Wildmon: I agree with that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't, I don't like the way it looks. I think to hold people accountable when they actually do step over the line.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You have to be able to identify them.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
Steve Berman: ICE agents face dilemma because far left is increasingly violent
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. However, having said that, this is a no win situation for ICE agents.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because if they don't wear masks, they are going to get doxed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And their families might get hurt because the far left is increasingly violent. And so they're between a rock and a hard place.
>> Tim Wildmon: So they have to wear the mask.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They have to wear.
>> Tim Wildmon: At least right now they do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or either you can say, well, I don't care about the families of the ICE agents.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hakeem Jeffries says we're in America. This isn't Germany. the 1930s. You. I would submit to you that a Jew in the. Coming to America, transporting through time from the 1930s might find an awful lot that's familiar with Germany in the 1930s on college campuses.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Steve Jordahl: And around the. This country with the anti. Semitism, with the af, afa, with the, antifa types.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: The riots that are going on. This isn't the America that Jeffries is talking.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, we just had. We had Jews burned. yeah, by a, Muslim. An Egyptian here illegally that ICE would have deported if they'd gotten a hold of him. He used a makeshift flamethrower.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'd let him in.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We.
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh?
>> Ed Vitagliano: yeah, Biden let him in. And he was, here in 2022.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He's a white man.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Fired. And then this young couple shot to death in Washington, dc. Yeah, to your point, Steve, Jews might find a lot that was very familiar if they were transported from 1930s Germany to the US in 2025.
>> Steve Jordahl: By the way, some video has been uncovered. I don't know if you guys saw it or not, but we now know the reason that this guy that was throwing Molotov cocktails had no shirt on is a video of him throwing one in the liquor or whatever's in the flammable substance getting on and catching him on fire as he was throwing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's why he pulled the shirt off.
>> Steve Jordahl: Pull the shirt off. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story.
White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles has been compromised again
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, the White House is dealing with another leak of sorts. This time, for the second time, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles has been compromised. This time, it's her phone that someone tapped into, got into her contacts, they started making calls in her name. They used AI to disguise their voice to call people in her contact list. they don't. the White House is kind of keeping it close to the vest as to what they know about this. Ah, I'm suppose they're trying to figure out who hacked it and why. It could be a foreign agent, it could be something local. But this is the second time WOWZ has been targeted, and there are a raft of leaks coming out of the Trump administration.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know what is scary about this is, is the potential for AI in very short order to just be able to confuse life for a while. on X For example, younger people were making fun of baby boomers. Boomers who could not tell the difference between, a video or a meme that was AI and one that wasn't. But I think increasingly nobody can tell. It's, it's really, And then with the voice, that cloning of the voice, there's going to be times where, where people in government are, you know, are going to get a phone call from someone in the administration, it's going to sound like that person. It's going to be from their phone and they may get information.
>> Steve Jordahl: Time to launch the news. Let me add something even more scary to this whole discussion I heard on the way in this morning on a podcast. Quantum computing, in short order will be able to hack any encryption that you can put on, an email account on a, bank.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's over for us, Dan. For the human race.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, that was, that was basically the, that was basically what let's do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let's just go back in time. Let's just. I bet maybe in 10 years people will just throw away all these smart devices and go back to agrarian. Well, it might not have Prairie life.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Either that or I will say this. There is a back and forth to technology, where there are supposedly encryptions that could be brought to bear that would be uncrackable. And then the bad guys figure something out to crack that. I think what we might see because, you know, there are people calling for, you know, let's get rid of cash, let's just all use electronic money. And I'm thinking that's. Are you kidding?
>> Tim Wildmon: Could go wrong with that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The federal government can't even protect the social, security office of the Defense Department. They've all been hacked. Yeah, okay. Corporations have been hacked. All right, so don't tell me we need to, you know, all digital banking. But I think you, what you're going to see is increasingly people will go back to some old school stuff.
>> Tim Wildmon: so you're telling me the chief of staff of the President of the United States of America had their phone hacked?
>> Steve Jordahl: That's what I'm saying.
>> Tim Wildmon: Susie Wiles, for the second time it seemed.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, the first time it was an email hack in 20 of her.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And they got, they got her contact list and started contact.
>> Tim Wildmon: Have you seen her? There's a picture of her operating her phone.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it's on this article that you turn around.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. She's a baby boomer, am I right? Yeah, she's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I think so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is she about. How old is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She's. I don't know. She looks like she's around already.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't want to make. She got gray hair, but that doesn't mean somebody's.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I think it's completely irrelevant to the.
>> Tim Wildmon: What? No idea. I got it. Yeah. Okay, well, how old is she?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. One of you guys.
>> Tim Wildmon: And we're gonna out her.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Let's go, let's go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Six on her age right here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Doxer. We're gonna dox her.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, we're gonna go with 60.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Huh?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm gonna go with say. I'm guessing it's like.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I'm gonna say she's 62. 6. She's over 60. 68. 68.
>> Tim Wildmon: So here's my point, here's my point. And I'm not making fun of her. I'm saying she looks like every 68 year old woman in America with a phone in front of her doesn' wouldn't know whether somebody was hacking her phone or not. because they. They 60. Most. 68. this is terrible. Look, they're trying to navigate it and they got one finger doing their texting. Am I right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: You see these teenagers?
>> Ed Vitagliano: See them?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, they're texting with all ten fingers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I know.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's flying like a hummingbird wings, man.
Someone hacked Susie Wiles' phone and cloned her voice
>> Steve Jordahl: They don't even have to look.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, they don't have. And, and, and 68 year olds and me too. We're like going, okay. And I will be there at 10.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Proper English. I use proper English, proper punctuation. And that one finger.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Must be pretty fat because I am constantly hitting the wrong key.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Anyway, that we haven't even gotten into the voice recognition. The wrong.
>> Tim Wildmon: But anyway, so somebody hacked her phone. Then they tried to make her contacts. Think they were her.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, with. They cloned her voice.
>> Tim Wildmon: It is, it's funny now, nothing happened, but yet, but, in the going forward, you know, with all what y' all are talking about with deep fakes and AI and cloning people's voices, it's a, it's a, it's a high. It's a, dangerous high tech world we live in.
>> Steve Jordahl: It is indeed.
>> Tim Wildmon: And you know, you just worry. I don't want to worry unnecessarily here and bring up doomsday scenarios, but let's all face it. we've been talking about this international cyber warfare that goes on and the drones, for example, which are related to this. I mean the world's changed and now you just hope somebody like, does China hack our infrastructure system.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We don't even know if this was China or Iran.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: No. Could have been with Susie Wiles. They may know more than we do, but, we don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, I just think that. But what's it. We've crossed the technological Rubicon.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, so going back.
>> Tim Wildmon: all right, next story, Steve.
Secretary of Defense Pete Hexeth is putting the military in fighting shape
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Secretary of Defense Pete Hexeth continues to put the military into fighting shape. We've seen him working out with the troops. We've seen him get rid of all the DEI and trans nonsense social experimenting in the military. And his latest move. He is renaming a ship named the Harvey Milk that was named during President, Obama's term. that's named after a gay rights activist who happened to also be a pedophile. the pedophile part was not used in the commissioning of the ship, surprisingly enough. But Pete Heath is, going to rename the Harvey Milk.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And he was a mayor, wasn't he? Of San Francisco.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was a supervisor in San Francisco.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Supervisor. Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: He shot Dan White. Shot him. And used the Twinkie defense. That's the first use of the. Remember the Twinkie defense?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, that he had had Twinkies.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sugar.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: So he went in, he shot Mayor Moscone, and,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that's right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mayor Moscone and Harvey, Milk.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Look, a gay rights activist who was controversial. and let's just say. Let's just say that in terms of his taste, age wise. Okay? And the left and the media ignored all that when this, was a destroyer, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: I believe so.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Christened the, the Harvey Milk. I don't think that worried China at all. A US Navy with the Harvey Milk as a destroyer. So I like what Pete Hegseth is doing. Let's. Let's m. Let's go back to war, fighting, and stay away from the DEI and the woke stuff. And Fred was saying. Or maybe it was you, Steve, that, That in terms of people signing up, the numbers have improved recruitment very much.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Since Trump took office.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, they are. the military is meeting its recruiting goals after, well, four years or more.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Of, of decline and not meeting their recruitment goals. I think Fred said that the U.S. army is four months ahead in its recruitment goals.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think I saw that number as well.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Wesley, do you have any comment on this Peak Heskas Hex. It's a renaming now.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, well, I was. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out. I'm not as from. I'm. I'm familiar with what you just said about, Harvey Milk, but I'm not. What did he, what did he do that made him popular?
>> Steve Jordahl: He was a supervisor in San Francisco. He's the first openly gay supervisor in San Francisco. Talking about the 60s or 70s, 70, I think. this was also Dianne, Feinstein took over as mayor. It was her public appearance. I was living in the Bay Area at the time. I lived through this.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So that's what he's known for.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's the first openly gay San Francisco.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's not good enough. What I'm waiting for is he invented the phone.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, he was a homosexual activist, one of the first ones.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And then he was. And he was killed. He was in there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Some of the people champion him like the, like, people do. maybe, Martin Luther King Jr. In terms of the civil rights movement, they would say he, he was a pioneer left. He was pioneer in the gay and lesbian, movement. That's what they would say.
>> Wesley Wildmon: For the left. He's an icon.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
Mason Howell from Georgia qualifies for US Open as an amateur
Next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, Tim, I think you, probably could talk more about this than I, but it's US Open time starts this weekend and leading into this golf.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not Tenn for golf.
>> Steve Jordahl: U.S. open for golf. And leading into this tournament. This is the only tournament m where just any Joe that can handle a golf club and has a couple good rounds can play in some limited spots in the US Open. There is a high school, 17 year old high school junior. His name is Mason Howell. He's from Snellville, Georgia, and he qualified for the US Open.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mason did.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mason did. So 17 year old junior as an amateur. He's like the eighth ranked amateur in, in the country, so it's not even the first or second, but he will well playing.
>> Tim Wildmon: I tell you what, I put a lot of work in with Mason and I'm glad to see that he's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's succeeding.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's made. He's making it in the golf world.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: That is a, the U.S. open golf tournament, which is annual, is you do qualify. A lot of people try to qualify from around the country and you don't. You can, you know, you don't have to be a professional golfer to make it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's going to look good on his resume.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. Very few do, but hey, it's. It's the dream, right?
>> Wesley Wildmon: He's committed to play at the University of Georgia.
>> Tim Wildmon: Has he.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, is that right? Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Well, thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Our thanks to Ed Wesley and also to Fred Jackson, Jenna Ellis and our producer, Brent Creely. We'll see you tomorrow.
