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Tim Wildman: Today's Issues offers a Christian response to the issues
Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR on this Wednesday, May 21, 2025. again, thank you for tuning in. Joining me in studio is Ed Battagliano. Good morning, Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning to you, sir.
>> Tim Wildmon: And good morning, Fred Jackson.
>> Fred Jackson: Hi there, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: And brother Chris Woodward. How you doing?
>> Christopher Woodward: Doing well. Trying to silence my, watch.
>> Tim Wildmon: What kind of watch you got there, Chris?
>> Christopher Woodward: This is what they call a smart watch. And I wanted to make sure. Is it ding. When I get an email or a text, Is it smart? It. I can make calls on it. I can go all Dick Tracy and, like, talk to Fred on my phone.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. I look at Fred, who's a different generation.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's got a. He's got a dumb watch.
>> Tim Wildmon: You got an old dumb watch, Fred? 70s.
>> Fred Jackson: I got those hands that move.
>> Tim Wildmon: I did quit where I never liked watching a. What? Wearing a watch in the first place. And then when the cell phone came along that had the clock on it, I just ditch it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I actually saw something on social media. This just shows you how many years you, Tim and Fred and I, how many years we have behind us.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. In the rear view mirror.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The rear view mirror. This was a social media. There was somebody's podcast. I have no idea who these two guys were. But the younger guy was. Was saying, why do people always say a quarter to? And he thought it was talking about some kind of monetary thing, something about money. And the other guy was trying to explain to him that has to. That a quarter of something is just, you know, like 25% and it's an hour. And so it's a quarter of an hour.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Until five o' clock.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And this young guy was having a hard time comprehending just the expression because we're used to the hands on a clock or a watch. It's a quarter to.
>> Tim Wildmon: So is that going to phase Out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I guess I, I guess there.
>> Christopher Woodward: Was a story at some point in the not too distant past in this news cycle. It's hard to tell time, but it seems like at some point in the last five years, it was a story. I think maybe it was Daily Mail, but kids in the uk, I think, were having difficulty telling time, unlike an old school clock on the wall at school. Like, kids today are not necessarily using that like they should be.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Christopher Woodward: And so it's the whole, Did we have a digital, you know, kind of clock thing?
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you serious?
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah. I'll dig it up and share it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I knew that, cursive's going out of style.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The writing taught cursive, which was a concern because the Constitution's written in cursive and the original anyway. And the Declaration of Independence.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes. the five recently did a little segment a couple of weeks ago, maybe a month, where it was. The Library of Congress was reaching out for, people that could read cursive to come by and volunteer because they're having difficulty finding people that can read a text from long ago.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. You get an original letter or something.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So, I mean, that's just what I'd heard, that they're phasing out cursive in a lot of schools. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, not cursing. Plenty of cursing.
British schools reportedly ditching traditional analog clocks because students can't read them
But. But not cursive.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, no.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah, I found the story, and, you can totally believe this, America, because the Today show also reported it. British schools are replacing analog clocks because kids can't read them during tests. Some schools in the. This is 2018. Some schools in the UK are reportedly ditching traditional analog clocks because students are not able to tell time during tests.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I got stand right there. I just don't, That. That's just wrong.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: In the category of that's just wrong, you got to be able to tell a time off a clock on the wall when.
>> Ed Vitagliano: When people say we're doomed. You see that on social media.
>> Tim Wildmon: Symptom of that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I see that all the time. Some story of someone doing something stupid. And then in one of the comments, invariably, someone will say, we're doomed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, Allison, My wife will do that after she goes in a store sometimes. She'll come, we're due. Between the other customers and the. And the employees, we're gone.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We're pretty much doomed.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're doomed. We're doomed. all right, so again, thank you for joining us on this most optimistic Wednesday here on, today's issue, where.
>> Fred Jackson: It'S Almost quarter past. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're getting there.
President Trump announced plans for a shield to protect the United States from missiles
All right, so this is, we appreciate everybody joining us, on the program today. What is the first story, Chris?
>> Christopher Woodward: Well, this was something that Fox, and CNN and others were talking about just a moment ago. President Trump yesterday inside the Oval Office announced or unveiled a plan for a quote, golden Dome, to protect the United States from long range missiles. This would be similar to the Iron Dome in Israel. But President, Trump says, it's going to be about $175 billion. They plan to have this in place and ready to go by the time he leaves office, if not before then. And oh, by the way, we're going to help our neighbor to the north, which he is often referred to as our 51st state. Clip 1.
>> Donald Trump: I am pleased to announce that we have officially selected an architecture for this state of the art system that will deploy next generation technologies across the land, sea and space, including space based sensors and interceptors. And Canada has called us and they want to be a part of it. So we'll be talking to them. They want to have, protection also. So as usual we help Canada the best we can. So we'll be talking to them. They want to have protection, also so as usual we help Canada do the best we can.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did he repeat himself?
>> Christopher Woodward: He did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So was he, was he being a wise guy?
>> Christopher Woodward: No, he was being, he was very polite. He did not make a 51st state.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, it was a dig.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what it sounds like.
>> Tim Wildmon: Canada. That's what that was. Did you misunderstand that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen to him again. Go ahead, play it again.
>> Donald Trump: I am pleased to announce that we have officially selected an architecture for this state of the art system that will deploy next generation technologies across the land, sea and space, including space based sensors and interceptors. And Canada has called us and they want to be a part of it. So we'll be talking to them. They want to have protection also. So as usual we help Canada do the best we can. So we'll be talking to them. They want to have protection, also so as usual we help Canada do the best we can.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Fred's a Canadian, moved down here. He's a Canadian American. What about that, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Listen, number one, it's true. Canada has depended on the United States, especially when it comes to the northern tier. Anything coming over the North Pole. All right, that's in place. several years ago I took a trip. I was asked to do a profile of. I, was on a Canadian fighter jet. We took off out of Comox, British Columbia. They have a detachment of fighter jets there, northern part, Vancouver Island. And the pilot happened to be a former trainer of mine when I was in the military.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because you were in the Canadian Air Force.
>> Fred Jackson: Correct. We took off and within a few minutes he says, we're now going over to Colorado Springs, Colorado Springs even. And this is back 30 years ago or more controls the, when it comes to defenses, controls the. The northern tier. United States and Canada. Canada's military is very small, Very small. In fact, they're still, you know, they're still using F18s up there and they've been negotiating for years. And so it doesn't surprise me at all. And by the way, of course the dome system is going to involve Canada because the United States is not going to wait until a missile gets to Montana.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's coming over the border. Time to.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, Trump was having some fun yesterday, but the reality is Canada, for years and years and years has depended on the United States as a major wall of defense.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, okay, so, but, but I was just saying, two things can be true at once. Everything you just said is true. But he was also getting a dig in. I don't know if he's a Tariffs or what it is that he's. Canada's a burundry saddle. Am I right? Yeah, some reason he wants to say that. But, the big story in the main story is the golden dome that he announced, which, is, going to provide for the United States and Canada if it is implemented and it successful works. Right. It will be a shield against incoming missiles. Yeah, that would, that would, at.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Least from far away. Like the intercontinental icbm.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. This is something.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Intercontinental ballistic missiles that many people remember.
>> Tim Wildmon: President Reagan talking about.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Strategic, Defense initiative, I think it was called at the time, Star Wars.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It was mock. That was a term of derision, Star wars.
>> Tim Wildmon: But the liberals called it because they said, you know, you. And so, so it never was built, huh? I, I didn't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no, they've been. No, they've been working. They've been working on it since, since Reagan. They've had numerous tests. but they're missile on missile, intercept.
>> Tim Wildmon: So what is. Was it President Trump? What is the golden dome? Exactly? Somebody explained it would be, it would.
Israel is developing a laser system to shoot down incoming missiles for cheap
>> Christopher Woodward: Be a sophisticated modern, version.
>> Tim Wildmon: So it's not missile on missile. It's more of a, it shoot down with something else.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I'm guessing they would use lasers. Right. You said something.
>> Fred Jackson: Israel is developing a laser system which is, be cheaper than what they're having, what they call their Iron Dome.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right now.
>> Fred Jackson: Israel actually has, and we have a story on afn.net right now, Israel has a combination system. We refer to overall what Israel has, an Iron Dome, but they also have the Arrow, which is designed to intercept long range missiles. They also have David Sling, which they use, which was developed with the US to intercept medium range missiles. And then they have the Iron Dome. And we've seen that a lot over the last few years. But they are developing what they call in Israel the Iron Beam.
>> Tim Wildmon: And this is a. I helped them with that one.
>> Fred Jackson: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: With the name or the.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, we just create laser technology.
>> Fred Jackson: But here, according to the AP story on this, this system, using the laser beam would only cost a few dollars apiece. Can you imagine a defense system where you can shoot down an enemy's missile for a couple of bucks? Because right now if we go after them with a drone, with a drone, it's a couple of million dollars. You know, every time, Israel shoots down something, it's a couple of million bucks.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and hardware, the missiles that they use to intercept incoming missiles, those are expensive, Terry. And I'll tell you something else. It's expensive, it's, it's even less cost efficient to shoot down a drone with a missile. All right. And that's, that's basically what we've been left with. They've been, we've been working on with lasers for years as well.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So the idea is you could use a laser just to knock a drone out.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Rather than couple million dollar missile to take a drone out.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
China says the Golden Dome has an offensive nature and violates Outer Space Treaty
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Why is China upset about this? About China is, being public about their criticism about what President Trump announced yesterday. This Golden Dome to protect the US And Canada from missiles.
>> Fred Jackson: This is laughable that China would respond this morning by saying, you're not being nice, United States, basically, that's what they're saying. They're saying this, the golden draw has a strong offensive nature. I'm quoting here from China, has, quote, a strong offensive nature and violates the principle of peaceful use in the Outer Space Treaty. That according to the Chinese Foreign Ministry. As if China wouldn't do this themselves. Right.
>> Christopher Woodward: they're often accused of stealing our intellectual property. So don't be surprised if you hear Beijing have a knockoff.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And here's the thing. The idea has been that yes, the major world powers can put stuff up in space, but it should Generally be for defensive purposes only. The problem with that is that all three of the major world powers, maybe beyond that, I don't know. But the United States, Russia and China also have. We all have them. Anti satellite capabilities. So you put a satellite up in space and, and you say, well, this is just for defensive purposes. Keep track of troop movements, to. To, to discover if someone's launched an icbm. Okay. But there is also anti satellite capabilities where there are small missiles, on these platforms that can be used to take out your opponent's satellites. To blind them.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. Because a lot of our military systems will not work without having satellite guidance. So for China to say, that the United States has, with this Golden Dome, will have offensive capability in space is laughable and hypocritical because China, Russia and the U.S. at least those three, maybe more, I don't know. They have offensive capability already in space, I'm pretty sure.
>> Fred Jackson: And if you don't believe Ed, you need to go watch the movie Space Cowboys.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've got that recorded. I think, you need to go home.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: At home.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I haven't. I haven't watched it yet.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, so I, I think what China is really upset about, honestly, is that because they issued a press statement saying they could make the missiles cheaper and send them to us. The missile defense system. Knock out their missiles. They could make them and ship them to us. Yes, but the tariffs.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: interfering with that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Christopher Woodward: I.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, I think missiles, American missiles ought to be made by Americans. That's what I'm saying.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That isn't exactly a Trump dialect out there, but yeah. So anyway, in all seriousness, well, kudos to our military and to the, to the, all those who worked on this. And President Trump announcing yesterday the, the Golden Dome.
President Trump says Israel's Iron Dome will be made of gold
Next story.
>> Christopher Woodward: Big, beautiful gold.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I do want to. I do want to just say this one thing. That Israel had the Iron Dome.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And President Trump is saying ours is going to be better and bigger and made of gold. We're not going with iron. We're going with.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're going with gold.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: They do make gold diamond.
Senator Chris Van Hollen expresses regret for voting for Secretary of State
>> Christopher Woodward: All right. there was an exchange yesterday between Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and various senators over issues including the deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who.
>> Christopher Woodward: He's quote, Maryland father. that was wrongfully.
>> Tim Wildmon: What was his name?
>> Christopher Woodward: El Salvador. Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. I'm not that guy that's going to go kill my. I'm not going to Do.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're not going to do that?
>> Christopher Woodward: No, because I can't. but two. this, To. Back to the story here, I've got some audio from Secretary of State, and Rubio and Senator Chris Van.
>> Tim Wildmon: Helen, before you do that, excuse me. Is this the fella who's been in the news so much who we sent to El Salvador that the Democrats are screaming buddy murder over, saying he shouldn't have been sent?
>> Christopher Woodward: Correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: This the same person?
>> Christopher Woodward: It is. And that is the. The person.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that what we're about to hear? That was the discussion we're about to hear is about.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes. The gentleman that is arguing with Secretary Rubio is Senator Chris Van Hollen. He's the Democrat from Maryland.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Christopher Woodward: Who went down there to, try to, quote, rescue him, because his due process rights have been violated. Clip eight.
>> Speaker G: I have to tell you directly and personally that I regret voting for you for Secretary of State.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I yield back.
>> Marco Rubio: May I respond?
>> Speaker G: You may.
>> Marco Rubio: Sit. Well, first of all, your regret for voting for me confirms I'm doing a good job based on what I.
>> Speaker G: That's just a flipping statement, Mr. Secretary.
>> Marco Rubio: And I respond, Mr. Chairman, you may.
>> Speaker G: I didn't ask. Senator, please let the, Secretary. I'd be happy to, but then I can respond to his. Your time's up, Senator. And, willfully used, I might add. Well, your remarks did not represent the view of this committee.
>> Marco Rubio: We deported gang members. Gang members, including the one you had a margarita with. And that guy is a human trafficker. And that guy is a gang banger. And that. And the evidence is going to be clear in the days.
>> Speaker G: Rubio has the floor.
>> Marco Rubio: Chairman, he.
>> Speaker G: You can't make unsubstantiated claims, Senator, like that. Secretary Rubio has the floor. You, Secretary Rubio, should take that testimony to the Federal Court of the United States because he hasn't done it under oath.
>> Marco Rubio: Here's another point, okay. No judge and the judicial branch cannot tell me or the president how to conduct foreign policy. No judge can tell me how I have to outreach to a foreign partner what I need to say to them. And if I do reach to that foreign partner and talk to them, I have under no obligation to share that with a judiciary branch.
>> Fred Jackson: So there.
>> Christopher Woodward: Okay. But we had to get it down.
>> Tim Wildmon: I wish I could. High five.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Marco Rubio right now.
Senator Rubio cleaned the floor with paper towels during a Senate hearing
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was outstanding.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know what was funny is that Senator. He was Senator Rubio.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He knows the rules in the Senate.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So once his. Once the Democratic senator yielded back.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Marco Rubio knew What the rules were. So as soon as he was being interrupted, Marco Rubio appealed to the chairman and said, can I finish talking? And. And. And I'm just. He cleaned the floor with them. When. When our dog goes to the bathroom on the floor and I grab some paper towels and wipe it up. That's what Marco Rubio just did. Wiped the floor.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what wipe the floor means.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That might have.
>> Tim Wildmon: I really didn't need that graphic.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That might have been inappropriate.
>> Christopher Woodward: I remember that time Ed told the.
>> Fred Jackson: Story about, you gotta love live Rad.
>> Tim Wildmon: Dog does that more than two times.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Need to find that dog a new home, probably.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm just saying I apologize for those who were offended.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: By my description of how I felt the bathroom.
>> Christopher Woodward: Humor.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Kitchen. Kitchen floor.
>> Tim Wildmon: Secretary of State Marco Rubio there, doing an outstanding job.
>> Christopher Woodward: He was.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, the attacks on him were brutal. There were several heated.
>> Tim Wildmon: In that. In that hearing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In that hearing. Several heated exchanges.
>> Christopher Woodward: We do have another, if you want.
>> Tim Wildmon: What are they mad at him primarily about, you think?
>> Christopher Woodward: The Democrats, they're trying to make it. They're using this as a political stunt to try to fundraise and try to get back into the Senate.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's just. They hate. It's just tds. Trump Derangement Syndrome.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah. What's interesting about Maryland, and this senator, Chris Manhaland, now, he argues that Garcia's due process rights have been violated. But during that same situation where he was saying, I'm going over there to rescue this man and get him back home to his family, I did interviews with people in Maryland who claimed that, like, their school system was violating their due process rights. And all these other Marylanders claiming my due. Says my due process rights have been violated. And you didn't hear a peep out of this guy. But it looks terrible because you're going overseas to get a guy who shouldn't even be here in the first place because he's illegal and. And therefore shouldn't have.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's his name?
>> Christopher Woodward: Chris Kilmar Garcia.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think they go by Abrego, don't they?
>> Christopher Woodward: Well, they could, yes. Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Christopher Woodward: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: But what's that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I hate when people do that.
>> Christopher Woodward: I do, too, because it sounds pretentious.
>> Tim Wildmon: But anyway, easier just go aoc.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Or speak with J.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or jfk.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Or speaking with a Spanish accent. Sounds.
>> Christopher Woodward: No, the. The, The people in broadcasting who are not from there trying to do that. Sounds to me like.
Marco Rubio takes on all comers in clip sparring
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, news next story.
>> Christopher Woodward: Well, we do have we could do another clip sparring. Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who's he sparring with now Tim?
>> Christopher Woodward: Kaine, the guy that Hillary Clinton wanted to be her running.
>> Tim Wildmon: So Marco Rubio is just in this room and kind of like maybe like I don't know, Tom Cruise, he just taken on all comers. Is that right? That was going right here?
>> Christopher Woodward: Pretty much.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so who's coming at him now?
>> Christopher Woodward: Tim Kaine, Governor, Senator from Virginia. Democrat, yes.
Minnesota senator says Trump administration allowed 59 white refugees under political asylum
>> Tim Wildmon: All right here, let's hear that clip.
>> Speaker G: Not phrase says you are entitled to entrance as a refugee if you demonstrate a well justified fear of persecution. You're not entitled to have a different standard based upon the color of somebody's skin. Would that be acceptable?
>> Marco Rubio: Well I'm not the one arguing that. Apparently you are because you don't know the fact that they're white and that's.
>> Speaker G: Why they're going to say that that would be unacceptable.
>> Marco Rubio: No, I would say that the United.
>> Speaker G: States, a very easy thing.
>> Marco Rubio: United States has a right to pick and choose who they allow into the.
>> Speaker G: United States even based on the color of somebody's skin.
>> Marco Rubio: No one's. You're the one that's talking about the color of their skin, not me. These were burned down and they were killed because of the color of their skin. Well, well you've demonstrated enough because you think anyone should be allowed into this country for any reason. Because in Minnesota we are going to prioritize people that come into our country on the basis of what's in the interest of this country. That's a small number of people that are coming. But you said this weekend that it's harder to vet in other cases it's more difficult. And by the way, the United States admits people every year. A million people come to this country every year legally a million.
>> Speaker G: And now there is one group of people that have an easy pass into this country for the first time this administration has said Afrikaners get an easy pass and refugee programs for the remainder of the world are shut off. And you can't say to the American public that we should apply this statute in an even handed way.
>> Marco Rubio: I think be applied in a way you shouldn't be shocked. It says should be applied in the national interest of the United States.
>> Tim Wildmon: What the Democrat there is upset about is there's a bunch of white people from South Africa come in here and.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It'S not even a bunch.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's not even a bunch. Thousand.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Was it 45?
>> Fred Jackson: Oh no, it's a really small number.
>> Tim Wildmon: I said, I said A bunch. How many? So I don't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm going to look and say, I think it was like 45 or something.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like 45 total.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. It's very small. Very small.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's more than that. I think. But anyway, they lost their minds. He's trying to make, he's trying to play, the race card.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 59.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 59 white South Africans. And the left has lost its mind.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What it is going on there? the Trump administration let these people appeal under political asylum, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because they were being persecuted, because of their skin color in South Africa. and because of that, the Trump administration allowed them 59 people. Come on.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And this guy's making a big deal out of this. When we've had millions of people for all kind of colors from all over the world.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: come into our, to the US Under Biden, and he didn't care. This guy didn't give a rip then.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But 59 white people come here from.
>> Ed Vitagliano: South Africa and it sounds like it's very dangerous in South Africa for these white farmers.
>> Tim Wildmon: The white farmers. Yeah. We'll be back momentarily. Stay with us.
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Tim Wildman: God often calls pastors from first church down
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. I'm Tim with Ed, Fred and Chris. We thank you for listening to afr. Hey, you may have heard some of our, radio spots mention this, but I'll just mention it here too. We are leading a tour to the Holy Land in March, like next March. And, my wife and I were leading a tour to the Holy Land, and we've been, I don't know, 27 or 28 times over the years. My dad taught me how to lead tour groups back in this, in the 80s, I actually went. He started doing the 60s.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He would leave. He would lead tour when he was pastoring.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. He would lead twice a year. He would go. Because when you were a Methodist pastor at that time, I'm sure this was all denominations you were in poverty unless you were at the first church.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, that's where God usually calls pastors.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that's. You pray for God. Please lead me to the first church.
>> Tim Wildmon: To the first church where I can get a salary, a decent salary. You ever noticed that? It's rare.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I was in the ministry, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: I, I noticed it's just rare that God calls pastors from first church down.
>> Ed Vitagliano: To the little country church.
>> Tim Wildmon: A little country church with 27 members when I came. Knows how that works.
>> Ed Vitagliano: When I came here to work in 1996 here at American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was the first time I ever had health insurance.
>> Tim Wildmon: There you go.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That'll. That'll. That'll tell you something.
>> Tim Wildmon: There you go.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The people who, for the most part, are ministering. Pastoring your churches, folks.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In a lot of cases, that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: They, they. They don't. Anyway, so. Seriously, my dad didn't. My Matt M. My dad was very entrepreneurial. Even though he was a pastor. He wrote. He did. He did other things to bring more income to the family.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: To provide. Because he had four children. And I mean you. So, so one of the things he did was he led tours to Israel.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And also Greece and Italy and some other places. So, places with Christian history.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so, we're good. So that's how I learned the trade, so to speak, of leading groups to Israel. And I've been doing that, dad, about in the 90s sometime, he said, I'm not going to do it anymore. It's all yours.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's. It's very hard work.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Plan everything and recruit everybody and get everybody over there, making sure everybody's happy. get to see what we said we would see. So we're going to Israel in March. And we're all, Wesley and Walker, my sons, are also leading a group to Greece on what we call the Footsteps of Paul towards. So they'll be going all around to the churches mentioned there, the Bible especially. Ah, in Greece.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that sounds fantastic.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're going to be visiting there. So there is a slight price discount if you want to do both. If you want to go to Israel and to Greece. Because the tours are back to back.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. they're separate, but you can do them back to.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Now, I mean, you're going to be going home. You're going to be away from home for two weeks, right? two and a half weeks, maybe. I don't know what that exact date count is, but I'm just saying, if you want to do that, we have that possibility. So again, in March, that's the Footsteps of Paul tour and the Holy Land tour. So I just. If you want to, read all about this and see the price, the itinerary, and everything about it, go to wildmangroup.com w I l d m o n group dot com. Not m a n, not M M A N. You go to Wildmon group dot com. You. I don't know where you're gonna get yourself in trouble. Yeah, you. Yeah, it would, some pro wrestling site probably.
Just a few seats left on two tours coming up in September
I don't know. I don't want to know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You'd be lucky.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I know it's very inappropriate.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wildemongroup.com w I l d m m o n group.com for all the information on those tours. And we've got a few seats left for our spiritual heritage tour of Washington, D.C. and, Colonial Williamsburg, those two tours in September. Just a few seats left on those tours coming up in September.
Tim: We're done with Rubio and the senators
All right, Tim, Ed, Fred and Chris here. And did we wrap up our.
>> Christopher Woodward: What we talking about the Rubio and the senators?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's. We're done with that Rubio.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The senator. It's a group in the 60s.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's it.
Former Vice President Joe Biden was diagnosed with prostate cancer last week
Who's next? What's the. What's the next story? What about this bride and cancer story? Can we talk about that a minute?
>> Christopher Woodward: The Biden got that week.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who's got that?
>> Christopher Woodward: Well, we have some, Biden. I have a Biden clip, but it's on the whole, Democrats put themselves in political turmoil by picking him to begin with. That's the sound bite.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so let's talk about this for a moment. We talked about it yesterday, but some more is coming out on this story. former President Joe Biden, you may have heard by now, you probably heard by now, he and his spokesperson announced a couple of days ago that he had been diagnosed with, help me out here.
>> Fred Jackson: An aggressive form of prostate cancer.
>> Tim Wildmon: Prostate cancer. And it metastasized in his bones. And that is unheard of today because, as Fred shared his personal experience and all of us men, I don't know whether I started doing this when I was 50. I'm 62 now. you get, a PSA test when you go to the doctor. You go to the doctor once a year, as everybody listening to me should. You go to the doctor once a year and you have an annual exam, you have a physical, they do blood work. everybody should do that. That's just, that's just common sense, to protect your health and to catch something that is preventable if called in time. And this is the situation, Fred.
>> Tim Wildmon: How can a fella as important as a vice. As a senator and then a vice president and now president, former President Biden, for 11 years, he didn't have a, he didn't have a PSA score to detect, prostate cancer. That's. And it. And the first you learn about it is you're at, you're at, what do you call this, Stage four. Stage four? I mean, how does this even happen, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, there's two things either what you just said, that we're quoting from.
>> Tim Wildmon: That he hadn't had a test since 2014.
>> Fred Jackson: That's either that is true or that they've been lying to us, that he has known about this. But because he was going to run for a second term, they've decided to keep it quiet. So one of two things are true. That gross negligence on his part, on his doctor's part, for not his doctors. Has a vice president. Has a president. It would be the natural and, normal thing to say. Mr. M. Vice President. Mr. President. we need a blood test and we're going to include a PSA test in there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you don't even.
>> Fred Jackson: That would be normal.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You don't even have to. I'm not even sure you have to make that a separate thing. They have a blood panel test that includes, you know, lipids and all that.
>> Fred Jackson: Kind of stuff and all that. That would be the normal thing to do. So I am shocked.
>> Tim Wildmon: He.
>> Fred Jackson: Were he. Joe Biden would have to tell the doctors.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, I know. I don't want to know.
>> Fred Jackson: I don't, I don't want that test.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Or, yeah, or he had the test. They were aware of it, but for political reasons, they decided to hide it from the American public.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Because, listen, why in the world would you opt out of a. You would have to intentionally opt out. Because I know that, and that's just true of everybody. I went in January, every January, I go, the doctor, they do the blood panel, they come, they do the, you know, and they tell you, okay, you know what? And he said, doctor said to me, your PSA looks great. And I said, I didn't say this, but I thought. I just knew that that was a normal, reading on your blood work like everything else. So I didn't have to say when I went, hey, I want a PSA test. Like you were saying that. Yeah, you don't have to say, I want a PSA test. It just comes with the, with the blood work results, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it tests your sodium, your potassium. Everything is in there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So, I don't, I don't. This is unbelievable that because you don't do a test. Okay, I don't mean to sound, morbid, but, his chances of survival are slim, right? Everybody knows that now. And of course, his age anyway. What is he, 83? Something like that, would be a tough age to survive cancer of any kind. But you get a cancer that's metastasized. Metastasized, I should say, from. From a cancer that is routine in our society for men 50 and older and is very, very treatable when caught early. That's why they do the test, early. I mean, a very high, success rate as Fred experienced on treating it and getting rid of it. And you don't, you don't even test again. I sound like I'm just flabbergasted. I am. I don't know which one of those scenarios to believe. Fred, the ones you described. Ed, what do you, what do you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, list?
Tim: I can understand someone saying they don't want PSA test
this is just very confusing because I can understand someone, saying they don't want. And I'm. And despite being fairly graphic in the first segment, there is another way of testing that's a little more, invasive. Invasive.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a second.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, but what I'm saying is I can understand someone say, oh, I don't want that test. Okay, but the PSA test, like, like we've been saying, is a no brainer. It's just a part of your regular panel. And, okay, this is elevated, this is elevated. This is what we got to do. However, on the other hand, I, I Say, well, if he did have the test and they found cancer, why wouldn't you have treated it? Now that becomes the next question. Did they try to treat it? And now it's still metastasized and got into his bones. But there's been no indication that he was undergoing cancer treatments. So I don't know. I'm like you, I'm bewildered.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think to Fred's point earlier, if you just take the most sinister view of this, which I tend to honestly, the way they tried to cover his dementia.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Uh-huh.
>> Christopher Woodward: That's where I was going.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. If he, well, speak.
>> Christopher Woodward: Well, that's the thing. Like, we have all these questions and they may have answers, but the American people, I think, have a right to be suspicious of anything the Biden family says at this point, because it is very clear from well documented evidence that they were hiding the fact that he was not all there mentally for years. And so anything they say at this point you have to take with a grain of salt because they were clearly lying or being deceptive.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Christopher Woodward: for a.
>> Tim Wildmon: About his mental, acuity, as anything.
>> Christopher Woodward: They say about his cancer, I tend not to believe, based on the campaign.
>> Tim Wildmon: what these, what presidents do now do they use their own doctor because Biden did right here. And his doctor has. He needs to come forth and defend himself or say what happened. Because this is, this is a, dereliction of duty or what do you call it in the medical profession?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Malpractice.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I don't know if it's legally. If Biden, told the doctor, hey, I don't want to know what my PSA score is. I just don't want to know. He would have to do that. I don't want to know what the PSA score is. Or the doctor knew the PSA score indicated likelihood of cancer and he didn't tell Biden that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, no. Yeah, that, that's. To me, that's probably the least, like, likely. But now there may. In terms of publicly speaking out, this is probably doctor patient confidence.
>> Tim Wildmon: How about this scenario? How about. It's as simple as this. He finds out Biden does that in, in 2016 or whatever. When was last test, he had 14, 2014. He finds out in 14 that he's got, elevated PSA. And then he says, well, I don't want to have another test done with my PSA score. And I don't want to know because if I know and I have to be treated for cancer, then that is going to disqualify me my political career is over. Right. So I'm going to roll the dice. And because I don't know, I don't have to explain to the public why I have dealing with cancer and, and hopefully I won't get it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And normally. Fred, you can chime in here.
>> Tim Wildmon: That makes sense what I just said.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. normally it's a very slow growing cancer. It is prostate cancer. So at least with Tim saying that could make some sense in terms.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'll take my chances.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That this doesn't mean, first of all, just elevated PSA score doesn't mean I have cancer. But even if I do, I can still continue on.
>> Fred Jackson: I mean, you can have an elevated PSA score without it being cancer, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's true.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, and they, it usually has something to do with obstruction or something of that nature and they have a way of treating. They can actually shave the prostate gland.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: So there's. So there's that possibility. But with him now announcing that he's got an aggressive form that is metastasized, that tells me either he knew and didn't want the public to know or he just, he made a decision. I don't want, I want to be tested for this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: I just, I'm going to.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what his doctor needs to say now and to protect his own credibility.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, because they use their family doctor for this and so their doctor needs to, in my opinion, needs to come out and defend himself and say, hey, they didn't want this done and I abided by their wishes.
>> Christopher Woodward: but anyway, the timing of this is also very suspicious because they came out with this breaking news story after he was being hammered in the media from even people on the left about the fact that they had covered up his mental decline. So even that Americans are automatically suspicious of anything the media and the government tells them. Okay, we're born that way.
>> Tim Wildmon: This doesn't make his wife look very good.
>> Christopher Woodward: It does not.
>> Fred Jackson: Again.
I never forget after the debate in Atlanta when he just totally answered every question
All again, huh?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I never forget after the debate in Atlanta when he just totally. That the one that Jake Tapper is talking about where Biden lost the election, he just had to withdraw soon after that because it was so, so bad. I never will forget his wife, Jill Biden said, then the first lady, you did so good, Joe. You answered every question. It was like a third grader told the truth. She was getting a third grader off the stage. You know, that's what it sounded like. It sounded like she talks to him like that On a regular basis.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And which. Which is how you do talk to somebody who's, fading mentally in life. You know, they're getting older, and they don't fully understand.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Don't hear you don't want to upset them.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't upset them.
Colorado has a new law requiring transgender people to use preferred pronouns
So, anyway, next story. Chris.
>> Christopher Woodward: well, I want to mention this. it's, It involves a new law in Colorado. Colorado.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not anything about wiping the floor, though.
>> Christopher Woodward: Colorado has a new law, that they've updated their anti discrimination law to the point that no one in public can misgender somebody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Uh-huh.
>> Christopher Woodward: You have to use somebody's preferred pronouns. Well, you're gonna hear a lot more about this America in the coming weeks and months, because groups including Defending Education, formerly known as Parents Defending Education, are now taking the state of Colorado to court over this very issue. I have audio, this morning from Defending Education attorney Sarah Partial Perry, the daughter of Craig and, Janet Parshel. And, she says that you cannot force an individual in Colorado or anywhere to communicate a message which. With. With which they do not agree.
>> Marco Rubio: Clip 10 that's precisely what the state of Colorado is doing right now. In a modification to its previous public accommodations law, known as the Colorado Anti Discrimination act, or cada, they have actually added a, provision now requiring that anyone who is in a public accommodation, a public facility, and that's any organization, any business, any facility that is open to the public, no matter how big or small, which is a fairly broad definition in and of itself. They have actually now added a provision that anyone who is in a public facility has to refer to a transgender person by the pronouns that person uses or the name that that person uses. Well, that's going to require plaintiffs like our organization and our individual members to be forced to affirm, lies and communicate messages with which they don't believe.
>> Christopher Woodward: One of their clients is the medical organization known as do no Harm, which has been going around the country challenging things like DEI laws and these kinds of laws saying, I have to be able to tell somebody the truth when we're talking about gender dysphoria or whatever else. Meanwhile, even teachers could be in trouble over this. Or news media, even parents. Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This law, Now, this is not, This law does not reach into the home insofar as two parents together might be saying to their child, no, Timmy, you're not a girl. I don't think the law applies to that. But in custody battles between divorcing parents, this law allows a mother, for example, to say, I want my husband to lose custody because he refuses to use my son's female pronouns.
>> Christopher Woodward: Right. And that's not an exaggeration. There have been cases in other states. Texas, for example, has had custody battles like that where the mom wants to transition the son against the dad's wishes. It happens.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So I can't believe this law passes constitutional muster. because it goes against freedom of religion, the first amendment rights, freedom of speech, goes against freedom of the press. because this has to do with, I'm guessing, celebrities in Colorado.
>> Christopher Woodward: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: that if you dead name which is you call someone by their. Like Bruce Jenner. Bruce Jenner now goes by Caitlyn Jenner. If you refer to quote unquote, Caitlyn Jenner as Bruce, that's considered dead naming.
>> Christopher Woodward: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You are using the name that, that transgender person no longer uses. this is a colossal.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a failure of state law.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Been passed, signed by the governor. Some of these blue states are dangerous to live in. Honestly for these kind of. Your livelihood can be. Look what happened to the baker out there. The florist.
>> Tim Wildmon: The coffee shop. I'm talking about in Colorado.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yeah, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Washington.
>> Tim Wildmon: And right now there's a, a pastor who owns a coffee shop. He's going through.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's agent Double.
>> Tim Wildmon: Double L. Yeah, yeah. With the LGBTQs who are, they're harassing him and suing him and all kind of things. so go ahead.
>> Fred Jackson: But there is a victory on this front, from the United States Supreme Court yesterday.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: And it involves a Republican state legislator in Maine.
>> Fred Jackson: Where she identified a guy who was playing in a girl sports as a guy. And the Democrat controlled legislature and governor there in Maine said we're going to take away your right to say or to vote on anything in the legislature. We're not going to allow you to. Even though you've been elected by your people.
>> Tim Wildmon: You do what?
>> Fred Jackson: No, they're punishing her.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It was retaliation.
>> Fred Jackson: They're punishing her for saying this guy who won a. I forget what the sport.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I got you track and field.
>> Fred Jackson: And because you id you identified him as a guy instead of a girl. We're going to, we're basically going to silence you in the legislature and the United States Supreme Court yesterday. And Chris has this story. United States Supreme Court yesterday said you can't do that to me.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good, good.
>> Ed Vitagliano: By 7 to 7 to 2 ruling.
>> Tim Wildmon: all right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: There's a hand clap right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go for the Supreme Court.
>> Christopher Woodward: I'll post on our Facebook page. I think think, Sotomayor and Katanji Brown Jackson were the two that said don't do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Really?
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Katanji.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Tanji what?
>> Christopher Woodward: Katanji Brown Jackson is her name.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
Chris: American Family News website offers free daily email news brief
And what's the other?
>> Christopher Woodward: Sonia Sotomayor.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, this story is on afa.net right? AFN. I'm sorry, it is AFN for American family News.
>> Christopher Woodward: Yes.
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>> Christopher Woodward: Yes. So afn.net is the website for American Family News. You hear us at the top of every hour on this station and many others. Now, about 100 non AFR stations. Also our top of the hour newscast. But afn.net is where those stories and a whole bunch more end up being published as news articles. So do visit afn.net, look in the right hand corner of the page. Top right hand corner of the page in the. You can click that button and you will subscribe to our free daily email news brief. We don't share or sell your email address. Once a day you're going to get an email from us with five or six stories to keep you and yours informed. Again, it is free. you've probably heard me plug that at the end of newscasts. And we will, share this story on our Today's Issues Facebook page about, Laurel Libby, the name of the representative there in Maine.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, this seems to be a favorite tactic of the Democrats. If you don't go along with our political agenda, we will silence you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: We will take your freedoms away because we disagree with something you said.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: I hope people are just grasping this.
>> Christopher Woodward: And they will turn around and claim that they're the party of love and tolerance.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Yeah, it's, it's shocking. You know Justin Trudeau taking away the bank accounts of truckers? He did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Canadian Prime Minister.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Of the United States. Yes. It is. That the left believes we're going to punish and silence you because we don't like what you believe.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And this is not just over here in North America.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: With the blue states in the US and then countries like Canada. This is happening over in Europe as well. In, Scotland, in, in England. Other places you can be. You can get a. Expect a knock at the door by the police.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you say something that goes against DEI or the homosexual agenda.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yep.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's pretty amazing that the place where the places where freedoms and liberties were born or flourished.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: are facing a direct assault on those liberties by the party that used to claim to be the champion of those liberties.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Thank you, Chris.
>> Christopher Woodward: Thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're going to take a short time out for news from our American Family News team, and then we'll be back momentarily with more of today's issues with Steve Paisley. Jordan, stay with us.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
