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>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR on this Tuesday, October 21st, 2025. I'm Tim Wildmon. Joining me in studios, Ed Battagliano. Good morning, Brother Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Chris Woodward.
>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: Your brother, too?
>> Chris Woodward: Yep. Yeah, I am.
>> Tim Wildmon: For all brothers here, our brother Ray is in. Ray, Pritchards in Kansas City. Good morning, Ray.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, Tim. How are you today?
>> Tim Wildmon: It's good. We're getting a little rain here at our studios right now. It's going to pass, but fall is in the air and falls already arrived in Kansas City. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: It was 44 DEGR degrees here a few hours ago. A couple hours ago. It's up to a balmy 52 degrees today.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Balmy.
>> Tim Wildmon: are the, the, leaves changing color there?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's. Yep, yep. Basically, we've had a lot of hot weather in September and October, but I think that's gone now. I think fall has arrived here in Kansas.
>> Ed Vitagliano: well, all I know is in Mississippi, where our flagship station is for the network. I never say fall weather is finally here because it's liable to turn hot and you're liable to be wearing shirt shorts, at Christmas time.
>> Tim Wildmon: But you know, the thing that we many, of us have to not look forward to is winter.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because winter will be here before you know it and.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: My attitude will change and Ray will go to Florida now.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's exactly right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Where the Lord will lead him.
>> Tim Wildmon: M That's what the Lord has led us to Florida.
>> Tim Wildmon: For the winter. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: For the winter.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Chris Woodward: 22 and pick me up. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll stop pick you up, Chris, and.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We'Ll head whoever wants to go right now.
>> Tim Wildmon: You did you and Marlene did, make a decision a few months ago? I mean, you shared it on the radio about you're gonna be Snowbirds now, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. In fact, in starting in two weeks, early November, I'll be doing this program from our park model at Word of Life, Palm Grove in Hudson, Florida.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, so you're going to be living there? Yeah, during the winter months he's whipping out. I thought we were just talking about where he's going to do his Bible teaching.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've had enough snow. I've had enough. I've had enough bad weather.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, Brother Ray, an Alabama boy has paid his cold, cold weather dues.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, up in Chicago.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm saying. How many years do you spend in,
>> Tim Wildmon: Almost 17 frigid years.
>> Tim Wildmon: And this is back before global warming.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's way before. Back when it was really global. A lot of global cooling, global cooling going on.
>> Chris Woodward: The first time I ever saw snow at Christmas time was in, the late 90s. my mom grew up in Zion, Illinois, which is north of Chicago. And my aunt still lived there at the time. And we went up there to visit my aunt and it was the first time on Christmas I had ever seen snow.
>> Tim Wildmon: there's something north of Chicago than Milwaukee.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. Yeah. If you hit Kenosha, Wisconsin, you've gone just a bit too far. And you. Zion.
>> Tim Wildmon: So there's Zion. You can go to Zion here in the United States. You sure can go to Illinois and pass through Chicago.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, go through all those, all those, tolls.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway. Well, all right, you got a couple more weeks there in Kansas City and then on to what is that around Tampa, Clearwater area.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just, just north of Tampa. About 25min of the Tampa airport.
>> Tim Wildmon: I got you.
Ray: Sometimes we can't get better when trouble comes
All right, well, give us a good word from the Bible, Ray, this morning, if you would, brother.
>> Tim Wildmon: So Marlene and I have been, doing our Bible listening and today we were cruising through, Psalm 37, which everybody knows Psalm 38 and Psalm 39. And it's always interesting, Tim, to listen to. You know, Psalm 37. Heard it many, many times, sermons and Bible studies and stuff. But Psalm 38, I. David's in trouble. As you know, in a lot of the Psalms, David's in trouble. He's got enemies. They're howling wolves. They're wild animals. My enemies are all around me. And this is what it says. I don't think I'd ever. You know how you can, Ed, how you can read something five times and then the sixth time you go, I never saw that before. Yep, I had one of those moments. I never saw this before. And David here is Talking about his enemies. My neighbors stand at a distance. Those who pursue my life set traps. Those who seek to harm me. They talk about my ruin all day long. They plot deception. And this, this is good. Now this is what David said. I am deaf. I cannot hear. Like a mute person. I cannot open my mouth. I am like a man who cannot hear. No response comes from his mouth. And then the next verse says, yet I wait for you, Lord. You will answer. Oh Lord, my God. Can I just say something? Sometimes we can't get better because we just won't stop talking. Sometimes we just can't get better when trouble comes because we got to talk about it and we got to talk about it and somebody says something about us we don't like. And that happens all the time. Somebody hurts our feelings and that happens almost every day. Somebody, gives us a bad glance and it ruins everything. It's interesting to me. David's response here is, it's really threefold. He says, number one, I'm not going to listen. Number two, I'm not going to speak. And number three, I'm going to wait on the Lord. One story years, ah ago, I knew a man, a Christian leader, whose wife was a pretty well known author, had a. Had. She was a well recognized Christian author and she had been badly attacked publicly, repeatedly, and this is probably almost 30 years ago. just her name had been dragged through the mud. And I'm not, I wasn't close enough situation to make a judgment on what people were saying. Yeah, but I happened to see the husband. I said, how's your wife holding up? He said something interesting. He said, my wife has taken a vow of silence. She will not speak to her critics. But also she will not speak of her critics. She won't speak to them because they just want to argue. And she won't speak about them because it only hurts her own soul. I think that's exactly the spirit of what David is saying here. There are times, times when we just need to stop talking, we need to stop complaining and just sit still and wait on the Lord. And David says, you will answer. Oh my God. So my friends, maybe there's one person out there who needs to hear this today. Let's not say everything that comes into our mind. Let's hold some things back and above all, let's wait on the Lord. And when we do, in God's time, in just the right way, he will answer and he will deliver us.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Did you just come up with that? just off the, off the cuff.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or just he got it from my article.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, now that was. Hey, that was outstanding.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because give me credit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, Tim, thank you so much.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was a great article, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you. I mean, I wasn't going to say anything, but you were word for word.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right? Word. Literally, really? Word. I didn't even mention your name.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, I'm kidding, folks. I didn't write anything like, that. That was a great word from the Bible that Ray. Brother Ray shared with us. And
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, there are times, I mean, those things, when people say things about you, it hurts. And if you keep talking about it or you keep playing things over in your mind, you're simply getting that hurt over and over and over again.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, and it kind of continues the. That kind of cycle of, hurt, anger, bitterness and Wow. That's just a powerful word, Ray. Excellent.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, there's.
Tim Ferriss welcomes Dr. Frank Turek on American Family Radio
And what you. Let's bring our friend, Dr. Frank Turek in here. Frank's, with us now. He's the author of I Don't have Enough Faith to be an Atheist and the radio show by the same name. Her. Saturdays at 9 o' clock Central Time, Saturday mornings at 9am Central Time on American Family Radio. And we replay that show on Sunday afternoon at 4:00pm Central Time. good morning, Frank.
>> Frank Turek: Howdy, folks. How is everyone?
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you hear what Brother Ray was sharing?
>> Frank Turek: I did, yeah. Brother Ray has learned much from you, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that was a great article.
>> Tim Wildmon: I sound like I'm looking for credit. No, I'm really. No, I'm really trying to be humble here.
>> Chris Woodward: Well, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Frank Turek: I think people should read your new book, 10 Steps to Humility and How I Made It.
>> Ed Vitagliano: How I Made it seven.
>> Frank Turek: Which is very humble. You did because I. You told me you actually made it in six.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, that was a good one. I gotta remember that one.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, he got that from.
>> Tim Wildmon: From you. Okay. Okay. Oh, my goodness. Okay.
Frank Cross will be speaking at several colleges next month following Charlie Kirk
Hey, Frank, I noticed where, the buzz around where we are. We're of course in Tupelo, Mississippi, but Ole Miss is an hour away in Oxford. And a week from tomorrow, vice, President J.D. vance and Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, will be on the campus there. And they're going to be speaking at the, I think the big, the. The basketball arena, the pavilion that they call it at Ole Miss. So that tells me they're expecting thousands and thousands of people. Are you coming over for that?
>> Frank Turek: I'm not going to be at that one. I'm going to be, where am I going to be Thursday night at University of Georgia with a TPUSA event. And then I'll be at University of Alabama on the 13th of November. Before that, I'll be at Berkeley, UC Berkeley on November 10th with a TPUSA event.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, you, M, you and. And some other friends of Charlie are doing, some of the events that he would have. He would have been. Is that right? Yeah, yeah. And, Go ahead.
>> Frank Turek: Thankfully, you know, Eric has said this show is going to go on and it should. Obviously, we're not going to let evil derail good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Frank Turek: So we're going to all these universities continuing that, and, we're bringing friends. I'm gonna be actually at Berkeley. I'm gonna be with Rob Schneider. I was supposed to be with Charlie, obviously, the actor and Saturday Night Live actor that actually wrote a book on, free speech.
>> Tim Wildmon: So when is that? When is that event?
>> Frank Turek: That's gonna be November 10th.
>> Tim Wildmon: when are you gonna be at Alabama? And M, you're gonna be at the University of Georgia, Athens.
>> Frank Turek: University of Georgia Athens, this Thursday, 7pm Details on the website. Then we have Ohio State on November 3rd. Then we have Berkeley on November 10th, and then we have University of Alabama November 13th.
>> Tim Wildmon: So Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State. You're trying to hit the top five in college football.
>> Frank Turek: That's right. Then Boise State, which they're not.
>> Tim Wildmon: They've fallen off, but, yeah, that's going.
>> Frank Turek: To be November 20th.
>> Tim Wildmon: Boise State. Anyway, in all seriousness, where can people read about the. The events and where they're.
>> Frank Turek: If they go to cross examined.orgcrossexamined. or click on, calendar or events. I think it probably says events.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It says events.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you worried at all about security, speaking at these places?
>> Frank Turek: Well, since Charlie, we've had to hire private security, not just for my safety, but for the safety of the audience. So, unfortunately, it used to cost us, like, about $5,000 to go to a campus. You know, with the. With the airfare, the hotels, the transportation, paying the guy that does all the video for us. Now it's $15,000.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, wow.
>> Frank Turek: So every place, every college we go, it's an extra $15,000. So I'm letting all our donors know, if you want to, because we don't charge students anything. You know, it's free. So if you want to help us, just go to crossexamine.org click on donate. You'll see it there.
>> Tim Wildmon: You looking at Frank's website right now?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I am, crossexamine.org and if you go to events, there's a drop down menu and you just click on Cross Examine Calendar and it has it has Frank's events coming up, as as well as when he appears. For example, he has today's issues listed here, for today. So wherever he's going to be speaking, he's got conferences coming up. You can check that out@cross examined.org I.
Ray: I appreciate Frank going to places like Berkeley after Charlie's murder
>> Chris Woodward: Have a, it's not so much a question but just something I would like to say. I appreciate Frank for going to places like Berkeley because a lot of they hear things about Berkeley or California in general, maybe Illinois, New York City, things like that and they roll their eyes. Oh, just let them all leave the US and stuff like that. But I appreciate the fact that Frank goes to places like Berkeley because people and Christians need somebody like Frank to go to them and to speak to them and let them know they're not.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The only ones because they are there.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. We shouldn't forget the people. There are God fearing Christians in California.
>> Frank Turek: I know it's going to be hard to believe but there's more Christians in California than any other state.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, there are more people too.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Frank Turek: Because there's like 39 million people there so.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, Frank's been going to college campuses long before Charlie Kirk did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Charlie learned a lot and wanted Frank to help him with debating and things of that nature and also the defense of the Christian belief system and the resurrection, so forth. Frank shared about that last time. so anything, what do you got coming up? what are you doing with your, with your program now that your, your world's been changed here?
>> Frank Turek: Well, we I was just, I just spent two weeks. We were in Israel, Jordan and Egypt. I just got back. So m. This weekend we're going to have Robert Furrow on. He's a pastor in Tucson. We did an event with Charlie there last year and he's about to do an event tonight out in Tucson. We're going to talk about that this weekend on the American Family Radio Network. What can we do now? You know, hearts are tender now. People are open to Christianity. Now's the time to move. Now's the time to go out and talk to people and to bring them into the church, bring them into Christianity. And so we're going to talk about how to do that this this weekend.
>> Tim Wildmon: So how long were you in Israel, in Egypt?
>> Frank Turek: It was a two week trip. It was scheduled before Charlie was murdered so I couldn't back out because people would have lost a lot of money.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ray, do you have any, questions for Frank?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I have one when he's done.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, we'll go, Ray and then Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: How about that? Ray, can you hear me?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Frank, you just said that hearts are tender. Talk about that. Ah, I'm hearing this from a lot of people around the country. Honestly, I'm seeing it as I'm traveling around doing my speaking conferences. Things have changed. Hard to, hard to put your finger on it, but it feels like the spiritual temperature, the openness of particularly, among young people has changed since Charlie's murder and what has happened afterwards. Talk about that a little bit deeper. What's going on in the hearts of American young people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that was my question as well. So this is a two.
>> Frank Turek: That's because Ray read your article.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Frank Turek: That's a great article too, whatever that article was. No, we did four events right after Charlie's murder at college and high school campuses. And I think that the tone has shifted from skepticism to how do I bring my non Christian friends to be to Christ. So they're more evangelistic questions now. So that's a good sign. Bible sales are up, church attendance is up. I'm getting emails. I know TPUSA is getting a lot more about people becoming Christians because of what happened to Charlie. and his example, it turns out, contrary to popular opinion, politics is an on ramp to Christianity, not an off ramp to Christianity. In other words, when people get engaged politically and they're already say conservatives, but they don't, they're not Christians, eventually they're going to want to follow the stream of justice back to its source. And that source is of course Jesus. That source is God himself. And, when people out there who are conservative or even moderate see someone like Charlie standing up and then he's murdered for his beliefs, that's inspiring to people, that people will go, wow, this guy put it all on the line and he wasn't afraid to interact with people. Maybe there's more to this. In fact, Charlie told me this like a month before he died that he got a call from a billionaire who said, who was an atheist who said, wow, you're the smartest Christian I know. Maybe I need to look into Christianity. well, because, look, in the public square, the political conversation is much bigger than the spiritual conversation, right? In the sense that it's on the news all the time. in fact, the only time the media covers, Christianity is when there is a vote or when some high profile Christian falls, that's the only time they cover Christianity. They're not covering all the great works that, that pastors and church members are doing, you know, continually. They only cover when something goes wrong. But the political conversation's always going on. So if you're a high profile Christian in the political conversation, you're standing for Jesus like Charlie did, that's going to bring a lot of people into the kingdom.
>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and it seemed, it seems like, Frank, that it's becoming clearer and clearer to people, even people who are just on the periphery of politics and culture, they're just living their lives on, maybe on either side. But it's becoming clearer and clearer that the divide in our country is not bridgeable because these are two mutually exclusive ways of looking at the world.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so when people start to, like you said, I love the way you put it, it's, you know, it's an on ramp, they begin to say, okay, well, this is what I've always believed, but why, And I'm not sure that were a lot of people 20 years ago or 25 years, 25 years ago, whatever, having those kind of internal conversations and asking themselves, well, why do I, why do I believe that a person can change their gender? why do I, and, and to your point, do I believe in anything strongly enough that I would give my life for it? I mean, these are, these are deep, deep questions.
Tim Ferriss: Jack Phillips won a Supreme Court case over religious freedom
And it makes sense to me that people are starting to examine the foundations of their belief systems, maybe now, more than 10 years ago even.
>> Frank Turek: And people who are bold encourage others. I was just talking to my friend John Stonestreet over there at the Colson center just a few minutes ago, and he was saying, you remember that guy Jack Phillips? You guys know who Jack Phillips is, right? The guy that wouldn't bake the cake.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Frank Turek: That he was going to stand on his beliefs. Right. You're not going to force me to support something that that God finds abhorrent. I'm not going to do it. You know how many Christians told him, oh, well, just bake the cake, be nice, just bake the cake, be nice. If he had done that, you'd have never heard his name.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Frank Turek: Right. He didn't back down. He won the cases. And now people are encouraged by what he's done and they're interested in Christianity more now because this guy put his whole livelihood on the line for his faith.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He'd been fighting that battle for like a decade in the court more than that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: And they act like he's the only baker in Colorado.
>> Frank Turek: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they try to set him up. These, of course, try to set him up. They. For those who don't know, we're talking about Jack Phillips. He's the bakery, owner in Denver area. And they, Two. Homosexual, Was it lesbian or.
>> Chris Woodward: No, it was two guys.
>> Tim Wildmon: Two guys, they. They, you know, they got a thousand places they can get a cake decorator for their, quote, wedding. And they decided to. They were going to target this Christian. If he didn't make it, they were going to sue him.
>> Chris Woodward: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And that he went through that for. I'm just reminding people who maybe have not heard that story, but most people have. But anyway, he ultimately won at the Supreme Court under religious liberty and religious freedom, first, amendment issues. So, he stuck with his guns, as our friend Frank says right there, and ultimately was. Won the case. All right, well, that's coming up. so Frank, if you want to join Frank this, Saturday, he will be on the air with I Don't have Enough Faith to be an Atheist right here on American family radio at 9:00 central time, in the morning. And then that's what AM means. right. Still. I think so.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then Sunday afternoon. Sunday afternoon at, 4:00pm Central Time on AFR. Well, Ray, I mean, Frank, we, will pray for you, brother, as you travel around the country and. And, if you. Tuscaloosa is just two hours from us, so if you get a chance, come over and see us. Okay.
>> Frank Turek: You know, you come over and see me, man. I'm coming all the way to Alabama. You can't drive two hours.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I walked right into that one.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Sure did.
>> Tim Wildmon: I would come over, enjoy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You enjoy your Saturday.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think I got down a little bit down in my back right now.
>> Chris Woodward: I'll come meet you, Frank. You'll know it's me when you hear my cowbell.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Frank Turek: Hey, Tim, next time the phone doesn't ring, okay? It's me.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. All right, Frank, you take care of my friend.
>> Frank Turek: Thanks, guys.
Frank was with Charlie Kirk when he was assassinated
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, that's Frank Turek.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And folks, please pray for Frank.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you know, Seriously.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, seriously.
>> Tim Wildmon: If Frank Turk. Frank is traveling the country. He was. He was. For those who don't know, Frank was with Charlie Kirk when he was assassinated and was in the car that took him to the hospital and I mean.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And started CPR on him. Yeah, you know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it was. I mean, that's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's why I mentioned he was friend they were friends.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He was a mentor to Charlie early on.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's why I mentioned, to Frank. Don't want to get into too much.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Of it because it's painful to talk about. But, there was. Right. Right there was, you know, life altering day for Frank. You know, for all of us who watched. But certainly for Frank, his close friend. Watching his close friend die like that, you know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Young with young married man with young young wife and two kids.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, whatever happened to his assassin, that story's almost disappeared.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You haven't heard anything.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I'm sure he'll go on trial or just. Has he made a confession? Do we know?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't think so. there's no confession. I don't think.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So it's just gone through the.
>> Tim Wildmon: In Utah, you get the death penalty?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: They said they will pursue it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. We'll be back momentarily with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network.
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>> Tim Wildmon: This is today's issues.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Email your comments to commentsfr.net past broadcasts of today's issues are available for listening and viewing in the [email protected] now back to more of today's issues.
Tim Edwards: Popcorn's so good. It's not even a temptation of sin
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back. Pardon me. Welcome back. I don't know what happened right there. I need to reset.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I can tell you what happened. You were eating popcorn on the way in and one. You know, someone run down the Wrong pipe.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, duly noted.
>> Chris Woodward: I heard.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I keep telling you to drop that habit.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I once heard you can't. You can't give it up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Popcorn's so good.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It is no lie.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's not even. It's like. No, no. It's not even a temptation of sin, really.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, it's not. But it's the best popcorn I've ever had. I'm just going to tell you it is. I've had movie popcorn popcorn I've made myself.
>> Tim Wildmon: You just catch it as it pops out with a bag.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's like. It's like.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Catching clouds of delight as it.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm talking about.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm liking it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, it is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It is really is awesome popcorn.
>> Tim Wildmon: And we got our own popcorn machine that we bought.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Here a couple years after we, one of the local, Presbyterian churches, we borrowed theirs and basically ran it into the ground.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we had it for 10 years. I think we used it up and we gave back to them.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The only time we, the only time they came back to get it was around, all Nation Day, Reformation Day. And they would come and borrow and it would be gone from m our office for like three days. And you should have seen. You talk about people feeling entitled. I'd walk by and I go, where's the popcorn?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, they took the popcorn machine back.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Lawndale Presbyterian Church, popcorn machine back.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. That's back when you could say Indian giver.
>> Chris Woodward: But we had,
>> Tim Wildmon: You can't say that anymore. You know that. I'm not saying it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you're not saying.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not saying. I'm saying. That's when you could say it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because we can't say it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because we can't say it.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. Okay, so what, we got a new machine. Is that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah, yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: I came in the day, that the previous machine had gone kaput. And I walked in and I saw five very solemn looking people standing there around the machine. And I was like, what happened?
>> Tim Wildmon: The popcorn machine died. That's what happened. And we're having a service. Show some respect. All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim Edwards, Chris and Ray. All right, what do you got, Chris?
Vice President J.D. Vance is in Israel to oversee Israel-Hamas peace deal
>> Chris Woodward: Well, Vice, President J.D. vance has just wrapped up remarks. He is in Israel, where the Trump administration has dispatched the Vice President to.
>> Tim Wildmon: They dispatched him.
>> Chris Woodward: They did. They sent him there to, oversee the peace deal or cease fire agreement between Israel and Hamas, depending on the news outlet that you follow. You'll get different interpretations of what Vice President J.D. vance had to say today. For example, MSNBC says, Vance says if Hamas doesn't comply with deal, very bad things will happen. cnn, I feel confident the peace will last. Vance, very optimistic about peace deal on, Fox News. here is some audio that our Steve Jordal cut for us, while we were talking to Frank Turek.
>> Speaker F: The Israeli government has been remarkably helpful in this. I want to thank them, thank our Israeli partners and all the folks particularly who are working hand in hand with their American friends, friends here at the cmcc. And number two, I want to say that there is this weird attitude I've sensed in the American media, in the Western media, where there's almost this desire to root for failure, that every time something bad happens, that every time that there's an act of violence, there's this inclination to say, oh, this is the end of the ceasefire. This is the end of the peace plan. It's not the end. It is in fact, exactly how this is going to have to happen when you have people who hate each other, who have been fighting against each other for a very long time. We are doing very well. We are in a very good place. We're going to have to keep working on it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I mean, I think it's okay for people to be cynical about it. The Middle east has earned that reputation. And, But at the same time, the Vice president's right. Well, you know, you got to give this time to, to play out. I'm looking, now because all the, the four news outlets that we, have in studio, Fox News, cnn, MSNBC and BBC, they're all talking about, Vice president's visit. but I'm looking at pictures of. I guess this is Gaza City, but my goodness, it is just like you said, Tim, it's just rubble. I mean, there is. I don't know how. There's just nowhere. There's just nowhere for those people to live. it's really stunning how, how this war has torn that place apart. But, m. You know, Ray, I'm, I'm, I'm good with people being cynical and giving it, giving the peace plan a chance. I mean, it's better than just. It's better than war. So let's, let's, let's.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I'm gonna say not cynical, just skeptical. Yeah, they've been fighting over there since the days of ishmael and isaac. 4000 years. The depth of ancient hostility. I mean, I mean, Eddie goes back Centuries and centuries. I like President Trump. Go on the record. Happy to say that. Wish him all the best. Okay? Wish him all the best and hope this peace treaty holds. But you got at least ask yourself, do you trust Hamas? No. Hezbollah? No. Palestinian Authority? No. our friends in Qatar. That's a hard sentence to say. Our friends in Qatar, do we really trust them? The Muslim Brotherhood?
>> Ed Vitagliano: There's a lot of bad actors, isis.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. There's a lot of bad actors over there. Right. Who, who want to see this thing fail. So I hope. And plus, you've got Prime Minister Netanyahu. He's not. He's not going to take anything, you know?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: If they attack, he's going to hit him right back, sort of. you send one of ours to the hospital, we're going to send one of yours to the morgue. The Chicago rules.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, it's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I think. I think it's perfectly good for Christians to say, we pray for the peace of Jerusalem. We're commanded to pray for peace in Jerusalem and the peace in the Middle East. We wish the president all the best. We're just skeptical. But write it. We'll wait and see. Maybe this time there'll be lasting peace.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Like I said last week, I'll take five years of peace.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fine.
>> Tim Wildmon: Five years is an eternity. That's an eternity of peace in the Middle East.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's better than five years of people dying, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's exactly right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Even if it's. Even if it's not permanent. We all know, biblically speaking, it can't be permanent. But, you know, five years, ten years, who wouldn't take that? Sure I would.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, we'll see what happens there. How about that?
>> Chris Woodward: All right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Sounds good to me.
Chris: Somebody sent it around this morning
>> Tim Wildmon: See what happens there in Israel, in the Middle East.
>> Tim Wildmon: We hope it works out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: I didn't understand President Trump, given that, executive order to protect Carter, though.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: You see that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, Yeah, I did. somebody sent it around this morning. It was Chris. You sent it?
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. I'm going to pull it up here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. So, Ray, I don't know if you. If you got that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I saw it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I looked it over. I.
>> Tim Wildmon: Don'T tell people what it is first. Over to you, Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
President Trump signed an executive order saying he will defend Qatar if attacked
So, back in September, President Trump signed an executive order on September 29, 2025, saying that the US and the state of Qatar have been bound together by close cooperation, shared interest, and the close relationship between our armed forces. in this executive order, President Trump said the United States shall regard any armed attack on the territory, sovereignty, or critical infrastructure of the state of Qatar as a threat to the peace and security of the United States. In the event of such an attack, the US shall take all lawful and appropriate measures and including diplomatic, economic, and if necessary, military, to defend the interests of the United States and of the state of Qatar and to restore peace and stability. The reason we're talking about this is because this executive order came at a time in which Israel and Qatar were going back and forth militarily, diplomatically, over issues involving things like Hamas. M. so it looked as though President Trump was saying, we will defend Qatar if places like even Israel were to attack them.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what he says. That that executive order is ridiculous and should not have never been signed by President Trump. And I don't know what he was thinking right there. Given, basically given Cutter, who's been. That's what I call him. Who's been housing Hamas.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, right.
>> Tim Wildmon: give them NATO, M type protection. and when they're the chief enemy, not. Not cheap enemy. When Israel had to bomb, they did. They bombed into Qatar one, one time because they were trying to take out these Hamas leaders that they knew where they were. But I don't know what Trump's thinking on that one. That's just, nutty.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and President Trump, I don't know. I want to say made, but encouraged. Israeli.
>> Tim Wildmon: Had Biden. Had Biden done this, we would be screaming from the rooftops.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Am I right?
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: President Trump, come. Kind of compelled Benjamin Netanyahu to apologize to Qatar for bombing Hamas.
>> Tim Wildmon: I was surprised that Israel did that in a way, because that is amping it up a little bit, you know, when you attack a sovereign nation. But.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, it is amping it up.
>> Tim Wildmon: But we did, too. We went into Iran and bombed their, nuclear facilities. So, I mean, it happens.
>> Tim Wildmon: And.
>> Chris Woodward: And we're blowing.
Ray: I don't agree with giving Qatar military protection against Israel
>> Tim Wildmon: Ray, what'd you think about, Trump giving, signing executive order, giving Qatar all this protection?
>> Tim Wildmon: The only way I can think of it is, is Mr. Trump maybe his greatest diplomatic skill. He's a deal maker, right. The art of the deal. He's good at that. I mean, legitimately good at that. And so he figured to make the deal come together. But Gaza, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria got a lot of players there. Right. And the US and the uae, Saudi Arabia, he had to provide some kind of guarantees to Qatar. The rest of us look at it and we just. I shake my head. I'm with you. Tim, I don't see, I don't see the benefit of this at all. But I suppose the president thought, well.
>> Tim Wildmon: You got to have principles somewhere. I understand President Trump's a deal maker in the art of deal. And, he calls everything a deal. He stay talking m. About Ukraine. That's how he's all a deal. He views it. He views international relations. And I'm not being totally critical of him, any means.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, he views, he views, international relations. Like, he's talking about Ukraine and Russia. He's talking about. We're about to. We're trying to make a deal. That's what he said yesterday. So it's that word. He's dealing back and forth, trying to get, you know, trying to get both sides to agree to something so that a deal is struck, so to speak.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I mean, you could, you could certainly see this happening, this scenario where, Trump is trying to get Carter to, To, to control Hamas leaders and to encourage them to sign on to this deal. And Cutter says, well, why should we? Israel just attacked, you know, just attacked. Don't bar.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And killed. And then that's, that's very believable. And then Trump says to the, to Cutter, okay, let me handle it. And he goes to Benjamin Netanyahu, hey, we're going to have a deal here. You got to promise not to attack Cutter again. And I'm going to give them a guarantee that no one's going to do that. We're on their side as well as your side. I can absolutely see all that happening behind the scenes. Yeah. And, and to. Because that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: Doesn't make sense to the rest of us at all.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't agree with it on principle.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm saying. I, I don't, I don't agree with doing that on principle because I think you can, you can do things that, that shouldn't be done. You shouldn't be saying to Cutter, we're going to give you military protection against Israel. You, you should not do that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, you're absolutely right. Because you, you say you're going to do that and what happens if Israel says, I'm sorry, President Trump, we're going to have to hit them. And then what is now, now President Trump's at a corner. Yeah. He's. Now what is he going to do? Going to give Patriot missile systems.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know. I mean, some things you just, you don't do, for principal purposes. And, and Trump, you know, so I don't know. I don't know what. But that was, what we quoted. There was a real executive order.
>> Chris Woodward: I posted it on our Facebook page, too.
>> Tim Wildmon: So people not making, we're not making this up.
>> Chris Woodward: The only thing I can think of, and this is just a guess, is that the Trump administration was trying to do something to bring Cotter Qatar Cater.
>> Tim Wildmon: Which is it?
>> Tim Wildmon: Is it Cotter Qatar or Guitar?
>> Chris Woodward: It's however you feel now. The people from there are called Qataris. So based on that, I say cotter or, you know, like a variation of the word. But anyway, the only thing that I can think of is that this was an effort by Trump to bring them to the table and really get every, all the, all the other pieces to start to fall in place for this peace deal in the Middle east. Because, remember, he went to Egypt after he went to Israel and had a bunch of Arab countries there sign off on all this, too. That's the only thing I can think of. It's hard to get into the mind of Donald Trump, as we have discussed in this program.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're on your own right there, Chris. We're not going to comment and I.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Do want to let our listeners know. Some of our listeners think any criticism of President Trump is.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're going against God's anointing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Disloyal.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And listen, our loyalties to the truth and our loyalties to the Bible. I love 95% of what President Trump has, is doing and has done. I hope he succeeds with peace in the Middle east, even if it lasts five or ten years. like, you know, like the deal was made between Israel and Egypt way by the Camp David Accords. So, but I want our listeners to know we've, we approach this as journalists who were Christians. And so we, we have to speak when we think something is the wrong move because we're not, we're not lemmings. We're not going over for anyone.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nobody.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Are you lemming, too?
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not a lemon, Chris.
I like them fried. I do, I really do. Take Texas State Fair once the deep fried lemmings
I like them fried.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Tastes like lemming deep fried. Had them in the fried lemmings. Take Texas State Fair once the deep fried lemmings put a little hot sauce on it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it's really good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah. Ed puts hot sauce on everything.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I do, I really do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Popcorn, donuts. It doesn't matter.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I, I, well, not like, do you have a particular brand donuts?
>> Tim Wildmon: We all know hot sauce people in our lives, and Ed's, one of Ed's, the one I know these two offices down for me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I know what he's eating, but I have eggs. I put hot sauce, on Louisiana hot sauce. And Tim says I can smell that all the way down the hall.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't, I don't want to judge you, but eggs and, and hot sauce, I don't know about that. That's.
>> Chris Woodward: I like it on a hamburger.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's not ketchup.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think that's. Oh, yeah. My dad was wrong.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's wrong.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was one of the things. Yeah. My dad would tell people straight up, he wouldn't interfere with people's business too much. But if they put eggs. Ketchup on eggs.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Gone too far. You've gone too far.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm talking. Right. He drew the line right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So we're all in agreement. I bet you could get Israel and, bone eggs.
>> Tim Wildmon: You gotta have some.
>> Tim Wildmon: Gonna start right here.
Tim: Can I share an observation about eggs from Job chapter six
>> Chris Woodward: Speaking of eggs, can I share, Can I share an observation that I came across recently and I already, already told this to Ray. but I was reading my Bible and I happened to be in Job chapter six recently. And you know how sometimes you read things and you come across stuff and you're like, huh?
>> Ed Vitagliano: But anyway, was talking about it.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. Early on in the Story of Job, he is, he says, can that which is unsavory been eaten without salt? Or is there any taste in the white of an egg? So thousands of years ago, Joe was completely against low sodium, cholesterol free diet.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And if he had had a bottle of Louisiana hot sauce, it might have made him a little. Might have made his life a little bit easier.
>> Chris Woodward: Blessed be the name of the Lord.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what?
>> Chris Woodward: Sprinkling it up.
>> Tim Wildmon: If his friends would have been real friends that have brought him some Louisiana.
>> Chris Woodward: We all agree, terrible friends, miserable conference comforters.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. we need to reel this back. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And I'm gonna do it right now. I'm reeling back in, really. All right. you're listening to Today's Issues. That's the name of this show on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Issues. Tim. I'm Tim with Ed and with Chris and with. With Ray Rays in Kansas City. We're in Tupelo and we thank you for listening wherever you may be. Go ahead, Chris.
Tim Ferriss: Two weeks away from New York City mayoral election
>> Chris Woodward: Well, keeping it with Israel or Israel related matters for just a moment. we're about two weeks away from the New York City mayor' mayoral May oral election. and one of the people in the news today that's warning about Zo Ron Mamdani, who appears to be,
>> Tim Wildmon: You gotta admit that's a great name though, for like a superhero.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Something like.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Just the Zoron.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or an evil villain.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's right.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. Somebody that might think he's more of an evil villain.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sorry, but go ahead. You were good.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Way to reel things in, Tim.
>> Chris Woodward: Someone who may think he's more of an evil villain is New York City Rabbi Elliot Cosgrove. he told, Fox that, Mamdani is dangerous.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Clip 8 I believe Zoran Mamdani poses.
>> Speaker F: A danger to the security of the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: New York Jewish community. Mamdani's refusal to condemn insightful slogans like globalize the Intifada, his denial of Israel's legitimacy as a Jewish state, his call.
>> Speaker F: To arrest Israel's prime minister should he.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Enter New York, and his thrice repeated accusation of genocide in Thursday's debate. For these and so many other statements, past, present and unrepentant, he is a danger to the Jewish body politic of New York City.
>> Chris Woodward: I'm going to put him down as a no from M. Doni.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, he was, he was, who.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was that we were hearing?
>> Chris Woodward: Rabbi Ellet. Cosgr. Grave.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, well, first of all, I, I, I, you know, to, to say yes to what we just heard. Mamdani was just the last couple of days, been criticized for a photo, op where he was smiling, arm around the shoulder of a, an imam. I, I think this is a, a guy in New York or he is just visiting. I'm not even going to try to pronounce this man's name, but he is, pretty much assumed to be an extremist, calling for genocide. But if you're a Jew living in New York City and you are seeing Mamdani as a danger to the Jews in New York City, you've got to be wondering if that's, if that accusation is enough to influence this election. And I don't think it is. Because I think the anti Semitic rhetoric and feelings in big cities like New York have grown to the point. Ray, I'll pitch it to you. Have grown to the point where people, when you say, well, this, this mayor, mayoral candidates, anti Semitic, they go, good. I'm anti Semitic too. And if I was a Jew living in New York City, these would be scary times.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we've talked before about how the landscape has changed since October 7, 2023. Antisemitism, which Ed has been with us for thousands of years. It's become acceptable, it's become fashionable. it's become a badge of honor in certain circles. And so, yeah, in the big cities, places like New York City, yeah. suddenly you can be anti Semitic and you can be elected to high office. It will be catastrophic if this. How do you pronounce his last name?
>> Tim Wildmon: Mom.
>> Tim Wildmon: Danny.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Momdani.
>> Tim Wildmon: Momdani. It will be catastrophic for New York and thus for America if he becomes the mayor. I think the only. This is an odd thing to say. I think the only way it doesn't happen, and this, even. This might not stop it, is if, the Republican candidate, Curtis Sliwa, if he drops out and then it becomes Mamdani versus Cuomo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And oddly enough, Cuomo becomes the quote, the quote, conservative candidate in this election. What a world we're living in.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It is strange. And not only is Mamdani, apparently, allegedly. I want to be careful, anti Semitic, but he's a communist who's going to bankrupt the city. And so you choose your poison here. This guy is going to be a disaster for that city. But as Tim always says, we got great popcorn here. We're just going to pop some and just watch it unfold.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because it'll be a lesson to the rest of the country. I hope the rest of the country's paying attention.
The second most Jewish place in the world besides Israel is New York City
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, who you have voting in this New York City election is New York City. It's. It's proper. Okay? Not. Not the greater m. Metropolitan New York area, which would include Long island and New Jersey and all that. So you're. You're, But there's a lot of Jews that live there. Yeah, I'm talking Brooklyn, and the Bronx. And I know Brooklyn's a heavy Jewish population. There's. Somebody once said there's the only, only place in the world. I mean, the second most, Jewish, populated place in the world besides Israel is New York City. And, you know, they. So, I mean, so they held a very prominent place and a very prominent vote. So, I don't know. you know, I guess what I'm saying, it's amazing to me the. Even the idea of somebody as seemingly anti Semitic. By the way, he's. He's a big defund the police guy, too.
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, this guy's. This guy's far left. Okay. Far, far left. That's why Cuomo, seems like a conservative, Right. Because he's a rational Democrat, compared to Zoran Mandami. But I don't know. We'll see what happened. When is that election?
>> Chris Woodward: It's, like two weeks from today.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, we'll see what happens there.
4 in 10 Jews say they hide their Jewish identity because of anti Semitism
Next story. Chris, we got three minutes left.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. let's play a little bit of this, because it factors into Jews, in New York City and other places. There was a recent poll that Washington Post did a story on and they say about 4 in 10 Jews in the US say they now hide their Jewish identity because of anti Semitism. A couple of Jewish ladies, American ladies, told Fox that Jews in the US have nothing to be afraid of except for maybe if they live in blue states.
>> Speaker F: Clip 12 I think it's a little ridiculous that people are asserting that they don't feel safe in America. This has always been such a beacon of safety and prosperity for American Jews. I think that they're projecting a little bit. My sons wear yarmulkes. My husband wears a yarmulke every single day. we don't take them off almost ever, except for in the middle of antifa protests at Georgetown here in Washington. But I don't understand, you know, outside of Brooklyn, where people are getting assaulted, why people feel that unsafe here.
>> Frank Turek: The truth is that Donald Trump is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The most pro Jewish president we've ever had. And I think if you're feeling unsafe in America, which is, again, like Bethany said, always a beacon of safety and security for Jews, Donald Trump has been just non stop about protecting Jews both.
>> Frank Turek: In America and in Israel.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The most popular, news program, those.
>> Chris Woodward: Two ladies were Bethany Mandel and Carol Markowitz from a recent segment on Fox.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I just. If you're a Jew living in the United States, especially in blue states, in blue cities and on college and university campuses, you've got to be nervous because you just never know when this thing tips over the edge.
>> Chris Woodward: Sure.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I don't like what's about to happen, probably about to happen to New York City. But sometimes you got to learn the hard way. And it seems like New Yorkers are going to have to go down that road.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back momentarily. Chris, thank you. Thank you for your contributions to this show this hour. Steve Paisley Jordahl is on the way in five minutes. Stay with us. The views and opinions expressed in this.
>> Frank Turek: Broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
