If we lose this cultural war, we're going to have a hedonistic society
>> Ed Vitagliano: If we lose this cultural war, we're going to have a hedonistic, humanistic society.
>> Jeff Chamblee: Discover the story of the culture warrior, Don Wildmon and how he went head to head with Hollywood playboy, the homosexual agenda and the Disney empire. The M movement Don started paved the way for Christians to boldly stand for truth and righteousness in a hostile culture. Watch Culture Warrior today for free. Visit culturewarrior movie.
Today's Issues offers a Christian response to the issues of the day
>> Jeff Chamblee: Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. here's your host, Tim Wildmon, M. President of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues here on the American Family Radio Network.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's the name of this program, and
>> Tim Wildmon: it's Tuesday, March 24, 2026. Joining me in studio is Ed Battagliano. Good morning, brother Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hola. Hola, senor.
>> Tim Wildmon: Same back at you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I have no idea where that came from.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hola, senor.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, we were talking.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know that means hello, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: In Spanish.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Hello, sir.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Senor. So what you said. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Fred Jackson. Good morning, Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, continue on.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bonjour. No, give us that.
>> Fred Jackson: Bonjour, Mr. Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bonjour. Back at you, Krish Woodward. Good morning.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Give it to us in Southern.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey. Hey, y'.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All. Hey, y'. All. Hey. Hey, how y' all doing?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that was.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's.
>> Tim Wildmon: When it gets funny is to hear a Southerner mock a Southerner. That's when it gets funny right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: all right, thank you for joining us, everybody, on today's Issues. and if you're wondering, whatever happened to Ray Pritchard? Well, it's a sad story involving Bigfoot, and I don't have time to go into it right now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And the Loch Ness monster got in on it at the tail end.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was wrestling. He was trying to separate him.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: big, big foot in the Loch Ness monster. Ray was trying to be a peacemaker right there, and he got hospitalized. But hopefully he'll be.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: With us soon.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No Bigfoot being hospitalized because Ray can hold him. Hold his. Hold his own and scrap.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, Ray will be
>> Tim Wildmon: back with us next week, is that right? Okay. Ray will be back with us next week. He's, traveling. I think he's moving back from Florida to KC and other things going on in his world. All right, thank you for listening to today's Issues. Frank Turek will be with us momentarily, 10:15 Central Time.
Nice weather out there across most of the country
Frank Turek will be with us. Nice weather out there across most of the country.
>> Tim Wildmon: Glorious. Where we live.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's really pretty, beautiful.
>> Fred Jackson: Kind of almost fall. Like we had some high temperatures on the weekend, then it got a little cool yesterday and, it'll eventually warm up again.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know out west they've been having a heat wave.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you see this, in fact, in Kansas City is one of the places.
>> Tim Wildmon: Last couple days at 85 in Kansas
>> Ed Vitagliano: City in March, you know, next week when Ray is on, because he's always throwing it in our face, he is down in Florida, right when we were going through bad weather, cold, you know, and all that. If this heat wave is still going on in Kansas City next week, we ought to tease them about that a little bit.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Let's tease the man of God.
>> Tim Wildmon: 85 in Kansas City. I don't think he's going to care.
>> Tim Wildmon: Going to welcome that.
President Donald Trump says he's in talks with Iran about nuclear deal
All right. Lot going on in our world.
>> Tim Wildmon: Krish, what's first up?
>> Chris Woodward: Well, we're still watching the, situation with Operation Epic Fury. And I say that because based on a story on our website, afn.net, israeli airstrikes have battered Iran's capital. Iran, meanwhile, has fired missiles and drones at Israel's Tel Aviv and other sites across the Middle East. This as President Donald Trump says the US has been in talks with the Islamic regime. Although is, Iran saying that's not true? I have a little bit of audio here. It's 20 seconds of the President talking about so called negotiations with Iran.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Clip 4 We're giving it five days
>> Donald Trump: and then we're going to see where that takes us. And I would say at the end of this period, I think it could very well end up, being a very good deal for everybody. As good as if we went all the way and just literally annihilated the place. Which, which if we don't have to do that, that would be a good thing, not a bad thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: what cathedral is he speaking in?
>> Fred Jackson: he was in Memphis yesterday.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know, but listen to that. He must have been in some kind of big hall.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I think he was reverberating there. His, talk was okay, so I'm trying to, trying to follow this as
>> Tim Wildmon: story and I know that in war
>> Tim Wildmon: even sometimes leaders are deceptive on purpose because it gives them a strategic advantage. I'm not saying President Trump's deceitful here, but what is it?
>> Tim Wildmon: What is this five day ultimatum? We had a 48 hour ultimatum and
>> Tim Wildmon: now that went away. And this is getting like Trump's tariffs, you know, one day you're on,
>> Tim Wildmon: one day you're off. What is he talking about?
>> Tim Wildmon: Five days. Which is different from the 48 hours
>> Chris Woodward: we have given them a five day pause, in which we're not going to go after Iran's energy sites.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why are we tipping them off on that?
>> Chris Woodward: That's a good.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know, Yeah, I know y' all don't have answers necessarily for this.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm.
>> Tim Wildmon: What I'm.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, if now again we're making assumptions and like we said in our story meeting, the American public's gonna be the last to know anything because you.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a democracy right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, well, we do give leeway to our political leaders when they're waging war to do it. As you know, they have the experts, the generals, so this is to be expected that we're not quite sure exactly what's going on. So let me just say that that's the most obvious thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now tell us what's going on.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now I'm gonna tell you what I think.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. Which I also can't prove.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is I think that coming up to the, the end of the 48 hour window that Trump, President Trump had initially given, which expired last night, they wanted time, I think, to get. Who's they, the administration to get the Marines closer and to encourage at all times encourage whoever's in charge. And I have no idea who that is. I think one of the things I've read is that the Trump administration had been in conversation with a parliamentary leader, in Iran, high ranking. So, to give some room for, discussions on how to end this. But if that does not end five days, I think gives them more time to get Marines in position if he wants to take Carg island or any, anything else. And I don't think the president wants to start hitting infrastructure initially. we're talking about power plants because that can turn the Iranian people against you. That kind of stuff has to be rebuilt afterwards. We hit their military sites. We don't have to rebuild that. We don't want them rebuilt. But if we start blowing up power plants, we're going to feel obligated to rebuild those. So I think the President, in saying they were having good talks, I think that was strategically deceptive or at least vague to give the US Time to be able to take the next step. That's my sense from what I've been reading from various experts.
>> Fred Jackson: Brad boy, I'd like to be in the room, with Secretary of Defense, Secretary of War Hegseth and They won't
>> Tim Wildmon: let you in, though.
>> Fred Jackson: They won't let me in. I'd love to hear the discussion that's going on because Ed has done an excellent job as usual, as speculation goes, on this. But, you know, one thing we've learned, I think a lot of people are surprised at the depth of the military capability of Iran.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, Prime Minister Netanyahu has been telling us for years just how bad these people are and what they are willing to do. And we found out, we discussed yesterday, we found out that they have missiles that can reach 2500 miles.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, those were dispersed. We didn't hit those.
>> Fred Jackson: No, yet, no. and they're still sending missiles. Last night, one, landed in Tel Aviv, did some very severe damage there. so after all the bombing, both from Israel and both the United States, they're still capable, they're still launching. So I, mean, if anybody had any doubts of the threat of Iran to the United States and to Israel, that doubt is gone. You know, Iran has shown their cards that way. So I was listening to an interview, last night on Tony Perkins program, Washington Watch, listening to, Colonel, Bob McGinnis. He was the last guest on the show last night. He was asked about everything that's going on the five days, et cetera, et cetera. But he said one thing for sure, that the United States has got to put in place a, ah, guarantee. In order for this to be some kind of victory, the Strait of Hormuz has to be safe.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: If, if that does not happen in this agreement, then basically a lot of people are going to say this was a waste of time because this is about oil. It really is. It's about oil. And that's why, you know, prices of gas are going up, etc. Etc. If we cannot secure a safe Strait of Hormuz so that oil can get out of there, then the victory, if you want to call it, will be very hollow.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Which is why my concern is, and again, I trust President Trump and Pete Hagseth and others. I, to, to an extent, I know their heart is in their heart mind. They want to do what's best for the United States. And that also extends to the world economy. I understand that. but my concern is that in order to get that victory that you just talked about, they are going. Which I think only happens if you have regime change.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In Iran, these mullahs, these people who are in charge of this country, of Iran, they're talking about white wiping out desalinization plants around the Middle east so that people die of thirst. These people are murderous.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
My concern is this is going to escalate, and before you know it
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. My concern is this is going to escalate, and before you know it, we're going to be sending over, armored divisions, army divisions, we're going to be, you know, setting up in Kuwait like we did with the first Gulf War, because we're going to have to invade Iran and in order to get rid of this government and, who knows where that winds up? You get the Houthis in Yemen threatening to bottle up the Red Sea straight.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. This. This thing could spiral out of control. I think ultimately, what President Trump is trying to accomplish here, we cannot have that murderous regime, in. In Iran.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That they. Their capabilities far exceeded what we thought. You give them nuclear weapons, they'll threaten Europe with annihilation.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And in more happy news. M. Thank you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Sorry about that.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's Europe. You know, you always bless me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm a wrist array of sunshine, aren't I?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, you are.
>> Tim Wildmon: You just, you know, you get up every day with just a great, happy outlook on.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm like a drop of golden sunshine coming down the hall.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what happens to Ruins fans when
>> Tim Wildmon: they go five years without a.
>> Ed Vitagliano: More than five years without a Stanley cup, huh?
American Family Radio welcomes Frank Turek on today's show
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to today's issues on American.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you're still listening, today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed, Fred and Krish.
>> Tim Wildmon: And joining us now is Frank Turek.
>> Tim Wildmon: Frank is, host of I Don't have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. Heard Saturday mornings at 9:00am Central Time and 4:00am, 4:00pm Central Time on Saturday. On Sunday afternoons. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
>> Tim Wildmon: good morning, Frank.
>> Dave Williams: Good morning, gentlemen. How is everyone?
>> Tim Wildmon: Good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where you. Where are you today? You traveling?
>> Dave Williams: I am in Grand Junction, Colorado. Tonight, we're at Colorado Mesa University. We're talking about if God, why evil? And then on Thursday night, we're going to be at Utah Valley University. That's where Charlie was murdered. So we are going to reach, out to the campus there and do an event there at 7pm and then maybe more close to home. Next Tuesday, the 31st, I'll be at Ole Miss.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, just down the road there.
>> Dave Williams: Right down the road.
>> Tim Wildmon: When will you be there?
>> Dave Williams: Thursday. Sorry, Tuesday night of March 31st. So that's a week from today, Ole Miss.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: You gonna come over here, see us or no? Or you don't know?
>> Tim Wildmon: I know.
>> Dave Williams: Unfortunately, I got to go right back because we're gonna. We Got to go to Rochester, NewSong York the next day, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Dave Williams: Won't, be able to make it all the way to Tulo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So that's a no. Well, you're in the neighborhood. Let me tell you. M. My mom would have made me feel really guilty if I got this. If I got this close and didn't stop by and see her.
>> Tim Wildmon: I expected Frank say, are you gonna come see me?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, well, your schedule doesn't permit.
>> Tim Wildmon: Frank, we understand that Ole Miss, campus is about an hour.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: From us.
>> Tim Wildmon: But that's okay, Frank. Be that way.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's where you want to do it.
>> Dave Williams: I'm looking forward to seeing you, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, I. Listen, I would listen. I'm wearing my maroon in white right now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I see it.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I do go over to 2 Ole Miss.
>> Chris Woodward: Are you going to be at the pavilion where, J.D. vance spoke?
>> Tim Wildmon: I did.
>> Dave Williams: No, it's a different room. I'm not exactly sure what the room is, but, no, we're not going to. We're not going to have, 10,000 people there like JD did. I wish, but no.
Cross Examined aims to bring the truth of Christianity to college campuses
>> Tim Wildmon: So, Frank, you are traveling the country. You're continuing.
>> Tim Wildmon: actually you were doing on campus events even before your friend Charlie Kirk was. You've been doing that for a long, long time. What's your goal when you travel, and go? I mean, you do a lot of
>> Tim Wildmon: traveling, you speak to a lot of camps, so you never know how many people are going to show up or not.
>> Tim Wildmon: what's your objective?
>> Dave Williams: Well, the objective is to encourage the Christians and put a stone in the shoe of the skeptic. Meaning we want people to see the reasonableness of Christianity. And on a college campus, it's probably the most anti Christian real estate in America. So we want to bring the truth of Christianity to these college campuses. And so everybody's invited. we do a presentation and we have a lot of time for questions. And if people go to our YouTube channel, the Cross Examined YouTube channel, two words. They'll see over 3,000 videos up there. Most of them are from the college campus. Most of them are Q and A videos where someone asks a question and I try and answer. And, so they're Short Q&As on just about every topic you can imagine.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, where can people watch Those?
>> Dave Williams: At our YouTube channel, cross examine YouTube channel, by the way, at, ah, Ole Miss, we're going to be at the Ole Miss Student Union. and it's 6:30 next week, the 31st 6:30pm Central time.
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, that's Ole Miss Central time.
>> Tim Wildmon: so, you're going to be at.
>> Tim Wildmon: On the campus of Ole Miss University of Mississippi. because we have a lot of listeners maybe who want to come,
>> Tim Wildmon: at least within driving distance again, when it. When and where it's going to be.
>> Dave Williams: 6:30, March 31st, Ole Miss. It's the Gertrude C. Ford Ole Miss Student Union. That's where we're going to be.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is this open to the public or just students on campus?
>> Dave Williams: No, it's open to anyone. So anyone can show up. Well, folks, I don't know what the capacity of it is, but get there a little bit early.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you've never seen Frank in person, I mean, and you live in northeast Mississippi, it's a great opportunity for, for you to go see them or even
>> Tim Wildmon: if you live outside of Northeast. But you're right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah, sure. Within driving.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, this is in northwest Mississippi.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Dave Williams: Right. Even if there's a friend of yours that lives in Tupelo, he. If he was a real friend, he'd drive over there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: It's not that bad of a drive. I made it. Made it last October.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think that was a shot at you, Tim. Yeah.
>> Dave Williams: With the, with the Mississippi State pullover on.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, if I show up at Ole Miss with my maroon Mississippi State M. They don't. They won't take kindly to that.
>> Tim Wildmon: They didn't.
>> Chris Woodward: They didn't let me bring my cowbell in when vice president.
>> Tim Wildmon: They view that as a weapon.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. There was, however, a bold guy in the audience. I saw him. He was wearing an MSU cap, and I was like, that is a bold move, sir.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well,
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Frank. Well, listen, brother, you're doing great and wonderful work, and we're proud to have you on our network.
>> Tim Wildmon: How many years now have you been doing.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
>> Dave Williams: Oh. I want to say since. Since 08, I think. It's been that long.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow. 8.
>> Dave Williams: So it's been a while.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, when you hit 20, we'll do something, small and meaningless for you,
>> Tim Wildmon: but we will try to send you a plaque.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We will. We will try to commemorate 20 years. That's. That's. That's pretty. Pretty.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let the record show that I was
>> Tim Wildmon: the one who called Frank and asked him to be on our network, I think.
>> Dave Williams: But he still won't drive an hour.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I would
>> Tim Wildmon: in my back on that day, and so that would hinder me driving over, but otherwise I'd Be there. Yeah.
>> Dave Williams: Hey. Yeah. It'll hinder him driving over after he plays 18 holes of golf.
>> Tim Wildmon: Frank, knows me all too well.
>> Dave Williams: All right, Frank just can't quite make it.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, we'll see how it works out. Maybe I'll show. Maybe you'll see my shiny, smiling face. Smiling face.
>> Tim Wildmon: We'll see you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Frank.
>> Dave Williams: I hope so.
Frank Turek was with Charlie Kirk when he was assassinated
Thanks for your prayers, man. Especially for Thursday night at Utah Valley. We're going to need, to say Charlie was murdered. So that's right. All that'll be broadcast on our YouTube channel, too, so people can see it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, thank you, Frank. See you guys. We ask people to do say a prayer for Frank. That's going to be a very emotional time, I'm sure, for everybody involved. For those who don't know the backstory, Frank Turek, the gentleman you just heard right there, who is on our network on the weekends with his show, as he said, going back to 2008. I remember calling and inviting him to be on our network with a weekend show. He was personal friends with Charlie Kirk. In fact, he was Charlie Kirk's mentor, especially on biblical issues because Charlie was learning in his, faith. He was more. Charlie got started more involved in politics and government and rallying young people to be involved, from a conservative point of view. But then he began to grow in his Christian faith and became as interested or more interested in sharing the gospel of Christ with students as well as teaching them how to be effective in politics. So Frank was his mentor when it came to biblical apologetic type, issues. In fact, Frank was with Charlie Kirk when he was assassinated. Frank shared that story with us. You can see Frank in the videos. Frank was in the car that took Charlie, Kirk to the hospital. Basically, he.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He tried, he did cpr.
>> Tim Wildmon: He tried to do everything he could to save Charlie's life, but it was not going to happen. and so that's. So Frank is going back to the university where it happened. That's what he was saying. For those of you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And this is his first trip there, I think. Is that what he's first trip back? First trip back since then.
>> Tim Wildmon: So say a prayer for Frank and
>> Ed Vitagliano: pray for his ministry. Listen, like he said, college campuses are the most, anti God pieces of real estate scattered around our country. And brave men and women, who love Jesus Christ will go to these college campuses. Very hostile environments oftentimes, because there's a lot of hunger on college campuses. So pray for ministries like that, that are reaching out to these young people because they need Jesus.
>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.
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>> Ed Vitagliano: He's the video guy.
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Today's Issues focuses on faucets with motion detectors
>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome back everybody to Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Thanks for listening to afr. The name of this show is Today's Issues.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're here every Monday through Friday.
>> Tim Wildmon: Friday we play trivia. We call that learning University. And we'll be here Friday for that. I got, I mentioned this before and sometimes, you know, as you get older,
>> Tim Wildmon: some things get stuck in your head.
>> Tim Wildmon: So the this modern.
>> Tim Wildmon: We got a new building here, three years old. Still consider new.
>> Tim Wildmon: This modern.
>> Tim Wildmon: faucets that
>> Tim Wildmon: have been placed in restrooms and other places, particularly in
>> Ed Vitagliano: restrooms with the motion detectors.
>> Tim Wildmon: You mean the motion detectors? Yes, the motion detectors are very annoying.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I don't know who thought we
>> Tim Wildmon: could ever improve on just a handle,
>> Tim Wildmon: you know, you know What I'm saying, it, Or a knob. It turns the water on and it turns the water off. I don't know what more you need. Why you have to put these machines in these restrooms that you have to contort, yourself and guess where to
>> Tim Wildmon: put your hand so that the water actually comes out.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just had to get that off my chest because I've not said anything about it before.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yes, you have. I have been in the restroom, and I will say this. This is not. I hope.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are we in agreement here?
>> Ed Vitagliano: We are in agreement.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Thank you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely. Generally speaking. And I will comment on this just a second. But I will say that you seemed, you know, like some people have, like, bad luck in life.
>> Tim Wildmon: you do have, like, Mississippi State football fans.
>> Donald Trump: Yes.
>> Chris Woodward: bad luck. Doesn't matter.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You do have the worst luck when it comes to these motion detectors.
>> Tim Wildmon: I do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They just cannot. They just can't either see your hand or you're always putting it in the wrong place. Same thing for the paper towel dispensers.
>> Tim Wildmon: For me or for your family.
>> Ed Vitagliano: For you for finding them. Now, I will say this.
>> Donald Trump: I.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In absolute agreement.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Not everything is an improvement just because you can do it differently. There is nothing wrong with a handle.
>> Tim Wildmon: Handle or knob.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Or a knob to turn. I prefer the handle because you don't have to touch it after your hands are clean. Just use your wrist or something. Bump it up or down.
>> Fred Jackson: That's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That is peak technology.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. You've reached the top.
>> Tim Wildmon: You've reached the top as man has evolved.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I don't mean that, you know, evolutionary.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Monkey, to man type way. I'm talking about just our technology.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think we've reached the pinnacle. With a knob.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Or a handle.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We turn the water on and off. There's a lot of things about what this is, modern cars that are the same way. I just think, listen, Yeah. I can put my hand, my foot on the brake.
>> Dave Williams: Uh-huh.
>> Ed Vitagliano: At a stoplight. I do not want the car shutting off for a couple of seconds.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, they say you can adjust those things. You risk a lot of other problems once you start messing with those.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Absolute gadgets on your phone. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, anyway.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Anyway. And I generally like technology, but sometimes you've reached the pinnacle of human achievement. Don't mess with it.
>> Tim Wildmon: How much gas can you really save? You don't by.
>> Tim Wildmon: By a car turning off for 30
>> Tim Wildmon: seconds and turning back on.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Try to accelerate, and you got to wait for that thing to turn back. On.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mine's gone off a couple times the last month. M. I don't know what's going on.
Chris: Car stops at red lights because people behind you think you're texting
>> Ed Vitagliano: I shut mine off manually. Okay, that's. So.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm talking about the car stops.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know you can change this. So I don't need people emailing me. I know I can do that. I just hadn't taken the time to do it. But I need to do it. But I'm talking about the car stops.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Shuts off.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Shuts off at a red light, and then it won't start up again automatically. That's happened immediately.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, really?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Something going on.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I think. Something going on.
>> Tim Wildmon: So maybe I hit something wrong or tapped the wrong button, whatever. Bad attitude. I don't know what's caused that.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, anyway, that's really a.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And let me just say one last
>> Tim Wildmon: thing, because people behind you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, they think you're texting.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, they think. No, they think you're texting. You're not paying attention.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so they give you about 10 seconds max, and then they start honking or driving by you with giving you,
>> Tim Wildmon: the finger that.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Of warning. Of scolding.
>> Tim Wildmon: The.
>> Tim Wildmon: Of scolding. And I'm just sitting out.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's not that bad. I shouldn't say that. Shouldn't be ugly about it.
>> Tim Wildmon: But they do. They do honk.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like, you're.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like you're. And I'm going.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Like you're watching.
>> Tim Wildmon: You, like, want to get out of your car saying, excuse me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, don't do that anymore.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've got a. I've got a real issue here. I am paying attention, and I'm not text.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you don't want to get out of your car. Someone will shoot you something bad. And let me just end this totally worthless conversation.
>> Tim Wildmon: Then let's move on. I didn't want to talk about this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: When I talk about reaching the pinnacle of human achievement. And you don't have to change anything. That's the way I feel about pineapple on pizza.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right. There, I said it. No, let's move on.
>> Tim Wildmon: After pepperoni and meat, now cheese.
>> Tim Wildmon: you don't need pineapple.
>> Chris Woodward: That's it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's like landing on the moon and saying, no, that's not good enough.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right, right.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Krish, what's your next story?
There are members of Congress that want to build a women's history museum
>> Chris Woodward: Speaking of human achievement, there are members of Congress that want to build a women's history museum in Washington, D.C. as a matter of fact, there is a Bill from Representative.
>> Tim Wildmon: What now?
>> Chris Woodward: A women's history museum in Washington, D.C. okay. And there is a bill from Representative Nicole Malliotakis, who is a Republican in NewSong York. What's that?
>> Tim Wildmon: Nicole did this?
>> Chris Woodward: Well, she wants to have the museum built on the national mall in Washington,
>> Ed Vitagliano: D.C. which is fine. Oh, yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're running out of room on that ball for women.
>> Chris Woodward: Well, the, issue with this story is House Democrats do not want the Women's History Museum, because Republicans want only biological women to be honored in the Women's History Museum. As a matter of fact, House Democrats, shot down the bill, or at least voted against it in the House Administration Committee.
>> Tim Wildmon: Be careful using terms like shot down,
>> Tim Wildmon: reject, this environment we live in.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm just saying reject. Thank you.
>> Chris Woodward: They rejected, this bill, that would build this on the National Mall. And I talked to concerned women about this. Concerned Women for America. here is Maggie McNeely talking about this, and she's urging people, to contact their members of Congress to share their thoughts about this. Clip 9.
>> Caroline: If we're going to be spending taxpayer dollars on a women's museum, we need to make sure that there are only women featured and that real women are celebrated for their accomplishments and their contributions to American society and that we're not highlighting men who are confused. You know, what we're seeing is that men are stealing the accomplishments of women when they are pretending to be women and competing in their sports categories or participating in their, their industries, as women and not as men. We really just need more people to speak out whenever they see this sort of thing going on, because that's the only way we're going to stop it. In the end, we.
>> Tim Wildmon: In my opinion, we don't need another museum on the Mall in Washington, D.C. i don't care if it's a women's or.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You don't care about women. Tim, were there accomplishments?
>> Tim Wildmon: Just a trick question. Yes, it is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Question.
>> Tim Wildmon: no, I think women are already celebrated. Yeah. so we say George and Martha Washington's Mount Vernon when we go there. We don't just say George Washington.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So this is a. This is bizarre. I do not. I honestly do not know why the Democrats continue to insist whether we have a museum on women or not. That's a separate issue.
>> Tim Wildmon: We can disagree or agree.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I don't care.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But, but why do Democrats continue to insist that this is a hill to die on? Okay. That we're going to have a museum? Let's say that's a good idea. And 98% of Americans think that's a great idea. Let's highlight the accomplishments of women with a museum and to your point, another museum. But let's say they do. Why do Democrats continue to insist, no, we want to include some men in this museum about women. Same thing. We want transgender women, AKA men, playing in women's sport sports, when the vast majority of people in this country don't want to do that. But Democrats insist. Well, no, we're going all the way to the, to the mat.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: On this issue.
>> Chris Woodward: To answer your question, I would bring, up a recent quote from President Donald Trump, who in this year's State of the Union said, and I quote, these people are crazy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, this is. I don't think that the trans issue is a, kill shot. That's probably, again, bad metaphor rejection. No. In terms of the voters, I don't think that is going to be at the top of their list of what's important to them. But when you get down, it is important down that list. It is important. And if a race is close, Democrats could find, all things being equal between the two parties, that this may be something that may turn voters against Democrats. I do not know why they continue to insist on standing on that hill.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm with you, brother. I don't know the. Not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not all, but a lot of these
>> Tim Wildmon: Democrats, are just God, haters.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know how else to say it. By God haters. I mean, they're against God's, nature.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. God made men and women separate, boys and girls separate.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what in the whole world's known that for thousands of years.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's why whether you go to Bangladesh, Right. Or you go to Alaska or you go to Pakistan, you know what, you're
>> Tim Wildmon: going to go there, and you know what you're going to find?
>> Tim Wildmon: You're going to find men's and women's restrooms.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're going to be separated.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And in those countries, men try to go in women's restroom, you can get a beating.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And you know what? You go to any one of those places I mentioned, you know what you're going to find?
>> Tim Wildmon: Men and women's, changing areas separated. Men's and women's, clothing separated. Men's and women's sports separated, Boys and girls sports separated. Because that's the way it's ever. Because everybody knows that's the, that's, that's the separation, that there's a divide between male and female.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And what These Democrats want you. Not all of them. Again, John Fetterman, I don't know where he stands on this, but I imagine
>> Tim Wildmon: he's common sense guy.
>> Tim Wildmon: There's a few of them, but a lot of these Democrats,
>> Tim Wildmon: they hate.
Chris: Democrats are beholden to this progressive wing of the party
They hate the God who created male and female. Now, they won't say it like that necessarily, but their actions.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Prove this over.
>> Tim Wildmon: They prove this over and over again.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead, Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, this story that Krish just gave us, though, it points to the problem within the Democratic Party Party. They are sole beholding to this progressive wing of the party, the squad and others. So that's the reason to address what, Ed was talking about. I think the Democrat hierarchy is well aware of where the public is with this issue, but they can't afford to make that progressive wing angry.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's true.
>> Fred Jackson: So they're willing to take a gamble and go public saying, no. we don't like this stipulation that Republicans want with this, museum for women.
>> Caroline: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, but just think about how bizarre it is that you're opposing a women's museum on the Mall in Washington, D.C. because you want to insist that, males who call themselves women are allowed in to the women's exhibition. I mean, exhibit hall.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story.
>> Chris Woodward: Krish, I'm going to circle back to national politics here in just a moment.
American Family News helps cover controversial abortionist Kermit Gosnell
but first I want to mention this. I've been here almost 16 years, and one of the first people that I helped AFN cover was an abortionist named Kermit Gosnell. Gosnell is a former Philadelphia abortionist who was convicted of first degree murder in the brutal killings of three infants born alive during illegal late term abortions at his, notorious clinic there in the Philadelphia area. And Gosnell died yesterday in prison. He was 85. And I covered that for a story that we're airing today for afn, with help from a guy named Steven Urtelt of Life News, who himself has a story about Gosnell. Clip 11.
>> Speaker M: He became infamous for killing babies in what was called live birth abortions, and he was convicted of multiple life sentences for killing, these babies and these live birth abortions, as well as getting on a federal drug charge. So not only did Kermit Gosnell kill thousands and murder thousands of babies at his abortion clinic, he also ran a pill mill, as well. So not surprising that he was involved in multiple, different types of illegal activities there at his abortion business. You know, honestly, this is a good reminder for people that we need to get right with Jesus. this is somebody who engaged in brutal evil practices. And unfortunately, I don't think there's any indication this man claim, to know Christ as his savior and had, a relationship with God. And it just is a good reminder, that we need to do that, unlike Kermit Gosdale did.
>> Chris Woodward: Now, I bring this up because we have covered this situation for years, as I mentioned, and it goes to show you the difference between AFN and something like npr. They are not going to air a sound bite like we just played. They're not going to tell you the truth about the horrors that Kermit Gosnell did while he was alive. And that is why I would strongly recommend people follow AFN as well as people like the Christian Post and others who do actual stories like this. Life News is another example.
>> Ed Vitagliano: How can people, get access to AFN online and then even get, articles delivered to their email address? Thank you.
>> Chris Woodward: AFN is the website afn.net and that is the website for American Family News. We do radio and print news. And the great thing about our website, because a lot of people, they just don't have time. you can go to our website, and if you haven't done so already, go to afn.net, you can give us your email address. And once a day for free, we're going to send you an email with about five or six stories, including things like this, to keep you and yours informed. And it's, It's a way to get news, from a Christian perspective, which is what we do every day about
>> Ed Vitagliano: stuff that's happening all over the world.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes, we cover Iran. We cover things like Mark Wayne Mullin being the, DHS secretary. He was confirmed. All kinds of stuff. Political, national, news.
>> Tim Wildmon: Every couple of days, you guys send out the American Family News timeshare offer.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a new feature for our emails.
>> Chris Woodward: You can timeshare with, somebody in our newsroom that's got a place in Belize, I'm saying.
Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt has appointed energy executive Alan Armstrong as Homeland Security nominee
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues on afr. Next story. Krish?
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, well, I mentioned, Mark Wayne Mullin. He has been confirmed as DH get
>> Tim Wildmon: any more Southern than Mark Wayne?
>> Chris Woodward: Mark Wayne.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Mark Wayne Mullin.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's the senator from Oklahoma.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, well, yeah, a former senator now, he was confirmed after a pretty lengthy, confirmation battle. Of course, Senator Rand Paul had issues, with things that he did. Mullin, had to say about Paul being attacked by a neighbor several years ago.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Did, did Rand Paul vote against him?
>> Tim Wildmon: There's some bad blood right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: now, so Mark Wayne Mullin is confirmed. He's going to be running dhs. and what better time to enter a job than during a part government shutdown? but for anybody curious as to who's going to replace Mullin, I've already got that answer. Oklahoma Governor Kevan Stitt has appointed energy executive Allen Armstrong to replace or serve in Mullin's position until an election, comes up, later in what would have been Mullin's term here. I'm not familiar with Allen Armstrong, but the Associated Press says he's an energy executive. obviously coming from a state like, Oklahoma, it's probably good you have somebody, involved with energy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, now you may not know the answer to this because states do things differently. but will this gentleman who's replacing Senator Mullin, will he serve until a spec special election later this year or until Senator Mullin's term was going to be up and he would have had to run for reelection?
>> Chris Woodward: yeah, he's going to serve the rest of the term.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Chris Woodward: According to the AP story I'm looking at here, which I'll share on our
>> Tim Wildmon: Today's Issues Facebook page, I think the governor appoints.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a good question.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think the governor points a person to serve out the term. and then there'll be primer. Then they'll be. Then, okay.
>> Chris Woodward: The last months of his term will be filled by Armstrong, who under Oklahoma law must agree to not run for a full term later.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, so he. So Armstrong cannot run for that term spot permanently while that rules in play. Yeah, that's, that's odd. That seems.
>> Chris Woodward: I want to say, I want to say when in Mississippi, when Governor Bryant appointed Cindy Hyde Smith to be a senator, there was like some language in there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Replace, what, Thad Cochran who passed away?
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, and then that was. States do it differently. I mean, there are like, rules. so you know, Oklahoma today, it could be another state tomorrow, that does it slightly different.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, you got anything to add to this?
>> Fred Jackson: No, I think Mullin is going to be an excellent, head of the, Hartman Homeland Security. I think, there is going to be a deal. There are negotiations underway to end this stalemate, so that TSA can get funded and they can get back to work. So I think that's going to be resolved fairly soon. based. When I read this morning that, the White House and a delegation of senators got together last Night and they're ironing out some details. So hopefully that will end and we'll get TSA back in our airports getting paid once again.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Kristi Noem.
>> Tim Wildmon: And this happens in politics. She, fairly or unfairly, she had become like the whipping boy for the, for the Democrats and the liberals and so. And then she, she had a. I, guess President Trump viewed her as a liability.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Political liability. Because all anybody was talking about on this was Christy.
>> Tim Wildmon: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Christine on Barbie and all this stuff.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And she shot a dog.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that was a. Yeah, she did do that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But that, but that. They kept bringing that up.
>> Tim Wildmon: And she filmed a commercial promoting HH
>> Tim Wildmon: Department, of Homeland Security, which they say cost a lot of money. And it did. Anyway, she, she had become a, the reality was she had become a political liability for President Trump. And so he moved her to another department, much less lower profile. And so he asked this gentleman, Mark, Wayne Mullin. Mullin, senator from Oklahoma, to leave his Senate post.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a big deal.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't believe a U.S. senate, office to go, but it, but that's also a big deal. What he's going to be doing that is to serve the President Trump at the department, of Homeland Security. And I think like you, Fred, I think he'll do an excellent job. And he's a new face, a new administrator, and he's also, you know, got, experience.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Christy Dom ran into problems on a number of fronts. One of them, there was a division within the department between, Thom Holman, Trump's border czar, and Kristi Noem with regards to priorities on deportations. Thom Holman just wanted to focus on the real bad guys, the guys who had committed crimes since entering this country illegally. Kristi Noem cast the net very wide. Even people who had not committed any crimes. She seemed to be focused on, I want big numbers out there of people getting deported. Whereas Thom Holman says, let's get the bad guys first, the ones who are committing crimes. Let's get them out of here and then we can go after these others. And I hesitate to try to frame them as the at least peaceful, law abiding illegal immigrants.
>> Chris Woodward: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, it's that. That's the only way to frame that. So there was division there and that's. And then the President, I think, was really quite upset with this idea that she spent so much money on commercials that featured her.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: In it. So.
63% of Americans support age limits for their elected officials, poll shows
>> Chris Woodward: Well.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And, I guess I don't want to talk any more about about the Barbie insult that Democrats hurled at her and people in Hollywood and everything.
>> Tim Wildmon: They never would have done that to a liberal woman.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They would never have done that to a liberal woman. And, and it's not fair. She was a pretty lady and she was always, quote, unquote, dolled up. And the ads featuring her, I, I am not saying she deserved it by any means. I'm just saying the Democrats, because of that, the Democrats, Democrats were always able to undercut what she was doing. And I, and I. Thom Holman's approach, you're not going to get the American people on board if you don't make a very public statement saying, and follow through with a policy that says we are going after bad guys. Because I think almost all Americans would agree those are people we should either prosecute and put in prison like Tim says, or we get them out of here, send them back and then make sure they can't come back in again. that to me is the more common sense approach. And you, you have to have the person running that process on board with what the president wants to do. And if you're getting pushback from someone like Christy Noem, hey, he was very President. Trump was very kind and gracious to give her another post. Southern Shield, I guess is what it's called.
>> Tim Wildmon: But bumped her downstairs.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. So she's still employed, but it's not going to be as high profile. This guy, by the way, I'm looking at the article on afn.net says that, because of his, past, he was a former mixed martial arts fighter, collegiate wrestler, who led early morning workout sessions in the Members Only House gym and as a result became close with members of both parties and is often seen as a negotiator in partisan Washington. Surely there are things that both parties can agree with when it comes to immigration. Let's start there.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he said that or you said that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: this is the article that we have up on, afn.net, it's an associated Press article talking about the fact that, Mark Wayne Mullin has just been confirmed. So they're talking about his past and, what people are hoping for as he, enters that position.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed, Fred and Krish. Krish, what's next story?
>> Chris Woodward: 63% of Americans support age limits for their elected officials. That's according to a new poll from the Daily Mail and something called JL Partners. what's very interesting about this is that new poll, which again, 63% of Americans want an age cutoff that comes at the same time that 87 year old representative Maxine Waters has decided she's going to run again. By the way, if you're curious as to, what they think the age cutoff is, it's 70 years of age. So if this were in place, Maxine Waters would be way past the cutoff age she's held. She's 87 and she's gonna give it another couple of years.
>> Tim Wildmon: What would you say?
>> Tim Wildmon: 84?
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think so.
>> Fred Jackson: I was gonna say a day over 90.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think she looks like a day over 90. Yeah, but I don't want to say that's disparaging. I don't know, like Christy. No, we should just criticize about saying something about Christie known.
Tim Ferriss: Chuck Grassley famously ran three miles at age 65
>> Tim Wildmon: okay, Tim, now we're going after.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who are we going after here?
>> Caroline: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: I didn't know you were such a
>> Ed Vitagliano: purist when it comes to these kinds of things.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pile on Maxine Waters. Yeah, Maxine's seen her better days.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Republic Republicans are the same thing. We're talking about Chuck Grassley.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, Chuck Grassley made some kind of comment was to the effect of, if I can still run a couple of miles a day and hoe a row of corn, I'm gonna run or something. He's in his 90s.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's not doing that. He's not row. He's not hoeing his garden.
>> Chris Woodward: I'm gonna pull it up. By the way, I interviewed him one time, years ago. Let me tell you this. Don't ever make small talk with Senator Grassley about agricultural stuff, because he will talk you under the table and you'll feel about this big.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, maybe he can do it. Maybe. Maybe he's still. I shouldn't say that. What do I know? But someone that old is still out in his garden hoeing weeds and.
>> Chris Woodward: Hold on.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And, that would be extraordinary if he's still doing it.
>> Chris Woodward: He began jogging at age 65 and famously ran three miles four times a week for decades. He continued running this regiment until recently, according to the Internet.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I told you
>> Tim Wildmon: he did that.
>> Chris Woodward: He ran hollow, oh, like, three, four miles a day.
>> Dave Williams: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: he has, 30 years, and he has left open the possibility of a 20, 28 run. According to the story a few months ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: He doesn't mention that he doesn't have any shins left.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I withdraw my sarcastic comment.
>> Tim Wildmon: listen, the people that would have to vote on age limits are the
>> Tim Wildmon: people we're talking about.
>> Chris Woodward: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're not going to vote themselves a, shutdown at age 7, 70.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Same thing with term limits. You're gonna have to. You're gonna have to put this in the Constitution.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, through a state led effort.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I don't. At least by 80, you would think you want to go the House and enjoy, I don't know, something other than going into the Senate hearing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, they love being called congresswoman or senator.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back in five minutes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Stay with us.
>> Caroline: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
