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Jenna says president trump is incredibly patriotic and loves America

jenna ellis in the morning on american family radio i love talking about the things of god because of truth and the biblical worldview the us constitution obligates our government to preserve and protect the rights that our founders recognize come from god our creator not our government i believe that scripture in the bible is very clear that god is the one that raised up each of you and god has allowed us to be brought here to this specific moment in time this is jenna ellis in the morning

Jenna Ellis: good morning it is monday june fifteenth and so yesterday was flag day which also is president trump's birthday so happy birthday to president trump i always thought it was really cool that he is ah he's born on flag day it just you know lends to this overall truth that he is incredibly patriotic loves america i was just talking to my producer devin ahead of the program about ah president trump hosting an unprecedented mixed martial arts event on the south lawn of the white house last night to celebrate america's two hundred fiftieth anniversary and also his eightieth birthday so this was an historic ufc freedom two hundred fifty fight and you know a lot of people a lot of the leftists of course are very upset about this but i didn't watch the whole thing but i did see a lot of the clips like the fighter jets that were flying over and you know a lot of the the patriotic music and you have to admit like trump or not one he is incredibly patriotic he loves this country absolutely unlike a lot of the democrats that are trying to transform it into something that it just isn't and that the founders didn't envision and second that trump knows how to put on a show we used to say when i worked for him back in you know during the first administration and his i was a supporter you know before i worked for him on the twenty sixteen campaign in the general and then of course i worked on his twenty twenty campaign and we used to say during the rallies and just you know some of these incredible moments like i actually got to go with him my dad and i got to go with him to the july fourth fireworks and display and all that at mount rushmore which was the first and then sadly the only time that they did that that incredible display and you had you know the fighter jets flyover it was just phenomenal and so the second point is president trump knows how to put on a show we used to say during that whole time period he's the greatest showman and i don't think that there will be any other president that will have kind of that background of course i mean he used to be in television media all of this before he of course ran for office and became overtly political i think he always was political in philosophy but you know some of these things like this you know whether mma is your thing or not these kind of shows and these kinds of dedications to patriotism or i think are really valuable overall to the fabric of america and re energizing people to feel patriotic and there's value in that because when we feel patriotic and we have these expressions and we say you know look at how amazing our country is you know look at the fighter jets flying over and this kind of awesome display of american power and you know dedication to our military and all of that then it kind of renews this sense of we want to fight to preserve the values and the principles that make america great and you know trump used to say and he said to me you know quite often how much he just loves this country and how impressive our military is and you know people a lot of the left likes to suggest that you know he just wants to have this big display of military parades and all this because he wants to be like kim jong un and have you know this military parade to his own power might i don't think that's accurate from my own personal conversations and experience working for him i think he just really is kind of that guy that is super giddy and impressed by military power i mean every guy it seems like if you're a red blooded american male you know loves the awe and respect that the military commands and i think trump just loves to see this kind of stuff on display and to say hey america is actually genuinely great so so i think it's a great kickoff to america's two hundred fifty and you know speaking of patriotism and and actually having this you know love for everything that america was founded on this brings me to my topic my first topic this morning which is how much the gop is unfortunately particularly in the trump era certain trying intentionally to basically cancel primaries and this is happening right now in florida in particular as the the rpof the the florida gop is not holding a debate for the gubernatorial primary and this is i think a really terrible decision on a number of fronts but the main reason that they have articulated is because byron donald's is polling so far and away from the other candidates that there's no need for a debate and they did not put out the criteria of the debate until they canceled it and then said that only byron donald's met that threshold well governor desantis had some very sharp words for the florida gop when he said that back in twenty eighteen when he was first running for governor he wouldn't have even qualified for that debate because of the criteria that they set which one has to wonder when exactly did they set this why didn't they make it public and why are they suggesting that that criteria even matters because debates are not about the candidates actually they're not the point is not to serve any individual candidate give them a leg up any of that it's to inform voters and right now in florida yes byron donald's is polling far and away i mean it's any any poll that yes it's anywhere between you know thirty five to you know maybe forty five percent of the vote but undecided in florida is consistently pulling higher than byron donald's well what does that mean maybe a debate would actually inform voters and say here are all of the candidate options and i think and i agree with governor desantis that the main reason that the rpof is not holding a debate is because they genuinely don't want any other candidate to get attention from that undecided and to give byron a run for his money and why should that be why should the party insulate their preferred candidate who they've already endorsed by the way in the primary which i think is very corrupt a primary should be open to the candidates that are running on the republican ticket we aren't democrats i mean when did this become whoever the trump endorsed candidate is which is byron donald suddenly then become the person that the party is trying to coordinate instead of saying listen if he's running that far and away why would he be scared of a debate or why should it matter that we're holding a debate and that voters can hear from the other candidates because if byron donalds is really that qualified he's really gotten that much of the trump of the leg up because of the trump endorsement then it won't matter then people listen to what he has to say no matter what he says they'll say well you're the trump endorsed candidate so we're going to vote for you and he'll win anyway but the point is that there are so many people who are trump acolytes and because byron donalds is the trump endorsed candidate they're actually calling for all of the other candidates to drop out of the primary and endorse byron and i'm sitting here thinking well wait a minute what are primaries actually for to actually select and prefer the candidate that the voters want not that the party wants but that the voters want and that they get to decide but somehow the party now is suggesting that voters what are too stupid we don't matter anymore that whoever trump decides to endorse that somehow that's just the selection and we're stuck with it i mean that sounds like twenty twenty four and the democrats with kamala harris and so rightly a lot of republicans in florida are very upset about this and honestly even the byron donald supporters in florida should be very upset about this because this is not the way that you want to to have a precedent that is set and i think it was a mistake that trump didn't debate in the twenty twenty four presidential election and he set that precedent to say you know what i'm i'm pulling too far and away and i don't even want to acknowledge or pretend that i'm actually running against anyone else and he should have respected the voters enough and and listen i mean he he ran away with it anyways and i don't think that a debate would have changed that but it would have at least respected the voters and respected the process so this is what governor desantis had to say in response to a reporter's question and this clip is about three minutes long but i think it's important that you hear the full response from governor desantis because he's actually right this is cut one yeah there should be a debate they said they were going to do a debate they didn't put out the criteria publicly i don't think the rpof ever voted on any type of criteria i've heard secondhand what the criteria was i wouldn't have qualified when i ran in eighteen for what they were trying to do and so it's counterproductive when you try to engineer an outcome because you need a coalition of voters to do well and this may be a tough cycle for republicans if you look at some of the indicators the way things are trending and so having an open process and having people be able to have their say is always better than to try to try to engineer an outcome so what the party should be doing is doing what's in the best interest of republican voters you shouldn't have another agenda you shouldn't be answering to anyone else other than the voters there now having said that this whole notion that the party should control debates is ridiculous you don't need the party to control they have no authority to control debates we did a debate when i was running eighteen we did one on fox news and had nothing to do with the i mean i think the party was involved in terms of like getting people to attend but we did it they put it on tv and so you can do something like that having nothing to do with the party you know the party has a very limited role it's really should be a candidate driven process and not for people to be making decisions who voters have never voted into those positions to begin with so line up something with tv line up something radio all these different forms podcast there's a whole host of ways that you can do but to just set criteria especially with polling when most people haven't started paying attention qualifying just ended today so up until eleven fifty nine this morning you could have qualified to run in these races so it isn't like that this has been now the fields for all these offices are set and people can go do it so yeah i think that to do those types of criteria i think ultimately is counterproductive i think you alienate people for no reason and look we've had a great run in florida but part of it is you know we've really you know i think respected the voters and worked really hard to build that trust and support that has seen us go from three hundred thousand more registered democrats when i got elected in eighteen to now one point five million more registered republicans i mean i won this county in twenty twenty two palm beach first time in forty years a republican was able to do that and palm beach used to have one hundred seventy thousand gap between dnr that gap has narrowed dramatically to where you potentially could have palm beach have a plurality of republican registrants but i think that complicates it if people don't have confidence in in the in the party label and the party brand so that yeah

Jenna Ellis: and and governor desantis is absolutely right that if you try to engineer the outcome it's disrespectful to the voters ultimately and you know for years republicans used to hate this kind of thing i mean conservatives have always criticized party bosses you know the establishment gatekeepers insiders deciding outcomes and now many of those same people are just saying well they the front runners ahead so why even bother debating but his point also that the political party the institution itself of you know the republican party has a very limited role its job is not to choose the nominees i think like i said it's very corrupt that they've even endorsed a a candidate in the primary the job is to create a fair process so that voters can choose nominees and now there is a freedom of association element to this and we all remember you know back in ah tennessee five during the the twenty i think it was the twenty twenty four cycle when when robbie starbuck was running and he hadn't been affiliated with the republican party long enough to meet that threshold and so they basically said you're not actually a republican well that kind of that kind of gatekeeping while you know we could agree or disagree that's a uniform standard that had actually been in place long before he decided to run it's not gatekeeping or canceling a debate with people who have actually qualified to run for governor and so you know the debates we have to remember are for voters not candidates and so what the rpof has done and what they're suggesting is just the same as a debate which isn't true is that they're having this event called like the sunshine showdown where they've invited the candidates to come in other candidates for office as well not just for governor and to give their speeches but what does that do that insulates the candidates all of the candidates from questions and also from the clash from the responses to the other candidates and it's not just byron donalds i mean i would love for paul renner and jay collins and james fishback who were you know basically the other top three for them to have to answer questions as well i would love for collins to have to answer for his issues with some of his rhetoric on the first amendment for not actually even knowing what the florida constitution says you know for some of these other allegations i'd love for him to have to answer that i'd love for james fishback to have to answer for some of what you know people i think have rightly termed anti semitic rhetoric right and speaking of james fishback i mean he qualified under the and you know absent someone suing over this there's been some issues some questions about whether he actually qualifies under the seven year residency issue sure but for as of right now he qualifies for governor but now the florida gop has rescinded his invitation why because they're suggesting that the party doesn't agree with his platform so therefore he's not invited i think that's ridiculous if you have certain criteria and he meets it it's not for the party to decide we don't agree with the platform that you're running on we don't agree with certain speech and content that's for the voters to decide if you have these minimal rules rules to be a republican you know fine i mean i'm not even talking about the criteria for qualifying for debate because that's ridiculous and totally separate and even shouldn't even be there but the minimum threshold that florida's constitution and then also the republican party require if someone meets that even if they're the most you know anti semitic horrible background you know whatever the voters can still decide whether they like that person and want to vote for them or not i mean what is the republican party so scared of that maybe the voters will actually like someone different than byron donald's but this is so disrespectful to the voters to say you can't even hear from someone else because we as the party leadership don't prefer that candidate how is that in any way shape or form their job responsibility or in any way their role the founders would have said absolutely not they would have been with governor desantis on this saying more speech is better and we trust that the florida voters if someone is out there that anti semitic and you know and that ridiculous well then as the voters continue to get to know that candidate they won't decide to nominate that person right and if they do well you know maybe you get the people that you vote for and so that's why we are supposed to have free and fair elections and so this is bigger also than just florida because if this becomes a trend post trump i mean that was that was the precedent that was set in twenty twenty four and everybody suggested well this is just the trump rule because he's really the incumbent he didn't get his second term you know all of those arguments but now it's filtering down into the trump endorsed candidates where people are saying if trump endorses in a particular race the rest of the field needs to clear on the republican ticket then this impacts more than florida and we need to be very careful in all the states if you are conservative and you are a registered republican or unaffiliated but you can vote in the primary like some states have you need to be very concerned that this is not how the party leadership in states and nationally is treating elections because it is disrespectful to you as a voter and it's disrespectful to the entire process so we've got to take a break here but i would really encourage you if you are in florida let the republican party of florida evan power is the party chair let him know what you think and even if you're outside of florida let him know that floridians deserve to hear from the candidates they deserve a debate because this isn't the people who miss out aren't you know renner collins and fishback the people who miss out are the voters especially the undecideds that like governor desantis said are just maybe now starting to pay attention they deserve to hear from everyone who's running and if byron is actually the best candidate then he'll win what do you have to lose well they don't want to lose trump's endorsed candidate and that says everything so we need to make sure that the republican party hears from us and that we actually want a free and fair process because isn't that what president trump said back in twenty twenty i was there i know he wants free and fair elections too we'll be right back welcome back to jenna ellis in the morning on american family radio welcome back

Jenna Ellis: well a renowned christian foster agency is now barring lgbtq couples from adopting children this is actually a very good thing so bethany christian services announced the change in a wednesday press release saying future foster families must align with the organization statement of faith and belief and this clarified a years old policy and cited a renewed commitment to its religious beliefs so the agency and this is coming from the new york post by the way the the agency will no longer allow lgbtq couples to foster or adopt children through its programs and so the ceo keith cureton told fox news digital in a statement clarity around our christian identity is essential to our christian witness and critical to the long term health sustainability and impact of our mission we believe this clarity strengthens our ministry honors those we serve and reinforces alignment with partners who share our faith conviction so we'll get into that as well with father frank pavone who is the the founder of priests for life and and frank you know this is a really good thing that christian foster and adoption agencies are stepping up clarifying christian beliefs but it also begs the question why there aren't more stringent laws ah around lgbtq couples in surrogacy and basically essentially child purchase because if you can't foster or adopt and i recognize this is just specific to a christian agency but it it evidences the problems that are implicit in other ways that gay couples for example acquire children

Frank Pavone : yes well hi jenna yeah you know we we i think we've talked about this particular way of framing it before but children are a gift and if they are a gift it means they can neither be demanded nor discarded now we talk about the fact that they cannot be discarded when we when we speak against abortion but they neither can they be demanded they're a gift so when we try to demand children or think that we have a right to them well then we start getting into artificial means of reproduction that are that are immoral ivf all kinds of technologies that lead us to a moral dead end that end up with tens hundreds of thousands of frozen children at the embryonic stage and this notion of like you just said acquiring purchasing you know again demanding children are a gift they can neither be demanded nor discarded we can ask for them we can long for them we can engage in those activities that increase the chance of god giving us one of them and we can have obviously christian adoption foster care all of this is legitimate but this once we cross that boundary once we lose sight of what it means that they're a gift then we end up with all these kinds of problems that you just referred

Jenna Ellis: to yeah and that's so well said because children are a gift and we have to remember why families and family of course is defined as one man one woman in the context of marriage and the family unit and of course you know some tragedies can happen and there can be you know the taking away of one parent through death and you know some of those things but that's why divorce is so sad and even though you know i believe that the bible says that it's biblical under some very limited circumstances it's still you know the breaking up of that family unit but family can't be defined in any other context family isn't one single parent or two moms m or two dads it's that that then want to think that they have a right to a child and a right to a family when the threshold foundational family unit which begins with one man and one woman in the covenant of marriage doesn't exist at the beginning now you know like i said things can happen further down the road that unfortunately break up that family unit but that's the threshold beginning place and that's the only context naturally that a child can be created and be born into that family unit and we should as much as possible mirror that and reflect that in foster and adoption and not adopt out to single parents to to two moms or two dads and to say that children are a gift recognizes the purpose of parents which is to train up children in the truth and and to allow them the best context to know god to love him and the parental responsibility isn't for them i mean the purpose of having children is not for the parent i mean obviously there's a great blessing and benefit but the purpose of parenting is to disciple the children and you know this is where there's been a lot of frank of commentary you know on line and you know some people who are saying well you know we're we're so tired of kids coming into restaurants and you know there are more dogs that get to come into restaurants than humans and there's this kind of weird perception now and i say this as you know somebody who has two dogs i love dogs i think that animals are given to us for care and for you know other purpose but i'm not discipling my two dogs i mean if anything my dogs be actually because they're service dogs they help me more than a child ever would i'm not responsible for their training and development and ultimately sending them out into society in the same way so no animals are not the same thing as having children and i think we've just lost this whole concept of what it actually means to parent a child because we're getting it in the reverse order as if a child is for the purpose of benefiting the parent instead of what is actually genuinely in the best and truthful best biblical interests of the child right

Frank Pavone : you know in the scriptures we see early on it's eve who says i have brought forth a man with the help of the lord now in many christian traditions and in our catholic community for example you know we use the term is not simply reproduction for christians it's procreation the procreation of children a recognizing them as a gift so we ask the lord for children but it's up to him if he gives them b that when we receive such children they are not products or possessions they are equal in dignity and rights to all the rest of us that's easy to forget isn't it they're equal in dignity and rights and number three they it is the parents for the children like you say not the other way around it's not some kind of thing that i do for my own enjoyment or edification we're pouring ourselves out for them so procreation includes recognizing that they were created according to the word of god and it's only the word of god and part of the word of god is god's plan for the family that is ultimately going to nurture them and lead and fulfill them and lead them to happiness they have to be given the word of god because that's how they were made so does god have a plan for family or not that's a key challenge to our current culture if there's a plan of god for the family we need to learn what it is we need to respect it both in culture

Jenna Ellis: and in law yeah absolutely so well said and you know unfortunately so many adults treat children like they treat a designer dog right or a or or a possession or you know they to have children just to serve their own purposes whatever that is whether it's you know they want companionship in that way they want to to show that you know they have children just like you know their neighbors and this is why a lot of the lgbtq couples the the men with men and the women with women or you know the throuples whatever they want to mirror the nuclear family and so they want children just so they can borrow from normal and that's not the purpose i mean and so many so many adults also say well i don't even want to have kids because kids are a burden and i want to go and fulfill my desires and that misses totally that the whole point of raising a child and discipling a child is that you pour yourself into them and in service to the lord and so many adults in our culture are missing this in so many different ways whether it's selfishness of not even wanting children because they don't see that same dignity and value of fellow human beings and they just want to be selfish or they want the child for their own selfish purposes instead of recognizing the obligation and the gift from the lord that this is a this this is an obligation and it's a it's a trust that the lord gives to to christian adults to say and i mean to every adult because obviously any adult even if you're not christian can if you're a man and a woman can have a child but it is a trust that god is saying i am giving this human being in your care until they reach adulthood to train them up and to install these values and help them get to know me and i just think we miss that so often in these conversations and that's why bethany services saying we are only going to adopt out or foster to families who understand that sacred trust is very responsible of them i was

Frank Pavone : so delighted to see that you know in my work with priests for life in the pro life movement we've we've collaborated with and promoted the work of bethany for decades and what they're doing people have to understand first of all is you know secular sources will represent this as oh you know they're excluding people they're limiting their services they won't serve they're discriminating but first and foremost it's the exercise of the religious freedom and conscience of the people who run bethany it's like if i'm going to run any business any ministry any effort and especially a christian ministry i'm going to do it according to my religious beliefs and my conscience so the first thing to see here about what's going on is the folks running bethany just like any of the rest of us running anything can do so must do so with the freedom to do it according to our conscience and our beliefs and never to feel forced by the law or any other kind of pressure to violate our conscience that's number one then they're giving that christian witness and therefore strengthening others through to live according to the faith and bethany too i think it was important in the statement that they sent out emphasize it's not that we don't want to serve in any different services that we provide we're not unwilling to serve our brothers and sisters who identify as gay or lesbian okay well so if we can help them in some way we're not discriminating against them because of that but we're just preserving and articulating the fact that like we were just saying god has a plan for the family and so we're representing god's plan for the family if you don't believe in that there's plenty of other services that you can go to that don't believe in it either so but but let us live our faith and bear witness to that faith in the way we conduct this ministry we have seen the rights of people to do that defended and upheld and it kind of reminds me of m you know our friend jack phillips right with the baking of a cake for a you know a gay wedding i mean it's like i'll serve you a cake if you want it's not because you're if you're gay you come into my shop i'm not going to throw you out but don't ask me to use my creative skills which are an expression of me and my beliefs and my freedom of speech don't force me to use my creative skills to endorse something or participate in something that i know is sinful it's against god's plan so this is great i think bethany is doing something that represents i think a growing freedom in america for people of religious convictions

Jenna Ellis: m yeah so well said because we have to remember that the ministry that bethany is engaged in is not actually to adults their ministry primarily is for the children that they help place in foster homes and adopt and so their ministry primarily is to the children and putting them in the best possible family unit and so this is where again the the people who would say well this is discrimination you know this is bigoted or you know whatever they're missing the point that these services are not primarily to serve adults and adults desires and whims the the primary ministry is to these children and absolutely just like they wouldn't place a child in an abusive context or home or you know or someone who hopefully you know was homeless and didn't actually have you know the proper they didn't pass all of the criteria to have a child either foster care or adoption well one of these criteria is that you actually have to be a family and that is a okay thing for these ministries who their ministry is to the children not just to the desires of adults and we're almost out of time but you know closing thoughts on this because i think we just need to reorient even as christians our perspective to be able to defend these these things and say you know this isn't discrimination this is actually the best ministry and service to the children it's the

Frank Pavone : best of the children and that's going to be backed up by something we've also talked about before what i believe in the dead end rule if you go down a road that's a dead end you ignore the signs that say it's a dead end you will soon learn by personal experience that it's a dead end and that personal experience might be destructive you know you might run into a wall or fall off a cliff and that's what's happening in our society it's happening with abortion the silent no more campaign that we have those who have experienced its destructiveness come back and say so it's happening with the transgender lifestyle people are running into a brick wall that says you know what human nature does not allow this human nature doesn't take to this and it's the same thing exactly with what we're seeing here you let children be adopted by these by by by a gay couple transgender family or whatever it is that's not just against our religious belief it's against human nature and we will run into a brick wall or fall off a cliff if we don't heed the signs that come through god's word and that say this is a dead end and the social sciences and the psychology and the field of medicine the evidence is going to continue to pile up that religious belief or not this is bad for the children we want a healthy god formed family of a man a woman committed to each other for life in a marriage that reflects the marriage of christ and

Jenna Ellis: his church faithful and fruitful preach absolutely so so well said and we have to remember that design i mean the laws of nature and of nature's god regardless of what we think about them if we disagree or if the lgbt community wants to say it's discrimination well that's how god ordained and established the universe under his sovereignty and the laws of nature and of nature's god remain undefeated regardless of the the current whim of society so we have to continue to advocate for that truth in morality so thank you so much frank pavone you can follow him across social media founder of priests for life so many great resources there we will be right back welcome back to jenna ellis in the morning on american

Jenna Ellis: family radio welcome back well late last night president trump said this on his truth social which of course then gets out onto all the other social media the deal with the islamic republic of iran is now complete congratulations to all i hereby fully authorize the toll free opening of the strait of hormuz and simultaneously here with authorize the immediate removal of the united states naval blockade ships of the world start your engines let the oil flow president donald j trump in of course all caps so so there's been a lot of reaction to this one okay this is like you know the the tenth or something effort of having a deal this is going to be signed apparently in the coming days and vice president jd vance is going to travel whether or not trump is going to actually go over there to the signing remains to be seen but so there's on one hand there are some skeptics and then others are saying okay you know this is it and now gas prices are are going to fall within the coming days and weeks even as the strait of hormuz is opened and is this really a tipping point for the economy so let's welcome in so bishop who is the comms director for the mises institute and though your thoughts on this deal whether you know this is finally the end now of the iran conflict and what that potentially means for the

Tho Bishop : economy yeah well let's assume you know we do get into paper or some assume that the iranian government even can agree to an agreement with all the different factors in the net let's assume the best in all that sort of situation obviously this you know anything that can get down oil prices right now and can restore you know sanity at the pumps which have been so brutal for americans is a step in the right direction you know we've saw last week you know numbers and some a lot of you know inflation has you know we've been over five years without inflation at two percent which is their target rate i think there's there's broader problems that have built up over over decades the consequences of spending the consequences of money creation the consequences of a variety of things but you know what we saw the first year of the trump administration was low gas prices helping overcome tariff costs helping overcome a lot of problems and so there's a restored normality and if enough damage to the infrastructure that we've seen throughout the conflict does not allows for a normalization of gas prices that would go a long long way to getting americans feeling

Jenna Ellis: better about the economy yeah and i think that's been a huge criticism of not just the democrats but even making some republicans nervous heading into the midterms is saying okay if gas prices continue to soar and that of course has an impact on airline prices on you know so many other things the inflation really has is still at at a high how long assuming this agreement holds and is signed and you know everything goes the way that the white house is currently suggesting how soon could american consumers see lower gas prices and maybe a trend down of inflation well we'll see

Tho Bishop : confidence in the deal be reflected in price prices shortly now whether that it's going to take probably a good while to get back to you know the two dollars gas to the gas that that we saw prior to the conflict and i think there's a real question on how much damage has been done to the broader infrastructure in the area beyond just simply the restrictions on shipping in the street and so i think that's yeah we haven't seen a whole lot of i think broad reporting within that obviously that happens when you have conflict areas whatever so two sides of it is one how quickly can production get ramped up since production was reduced during it how fast can all of the issues that come with shipping from the strait get resolved truly and three is are there any lasting damage to capital in the area and all of those again i would be very surprised if we get to pre war lows and gas prices before november but if we're halfway there that would go a long

Jenna Ellis: way yeah if it's at least trending in the right direction i think that would be a huge benefit to republicans in the midterms and so you know president trump is arguing that the agreements demonstrates peace through strength and you know this is kind of what he's been angling for the whole time of course he's going to say that but from purely an economic perspective does the ending of this conflict you know assuming again that this agreement holds do you think that ultimately even if it takes a while as you mentioned we may not even get there before november but if it's trending in the right direction do you think that ultimately it would leave america in a

Tho Bishop : stronger position economically i don't economically i see a hard time justifying that just because you know we're not going to have i'd be very surprised though you know maybe we could see this but i'd be very surprised at the result of this is iran becoming a normalized global player and therefore opening up new new new new trade opportunities etcetera etc that arise from that right so so i think there's you know you can make national security arguments and maybe you can latch it on like oh well the national security concerns if if you know new kids new york whatever the you know where are those sort of doomsday scenarios that i think ultimately would use justification for it right then obviously that's good for the economy right you don't want a new kid in new york right but but but in terms of of you know i mean how much impact is going to have is this going to normalize iran as an economic actor given the hardlining i mean it seems from all indications that the regime has become more as a result of this there's not been some sort of massive revolution within the country obviously you do not have the civilian government overtaking the iranian revolutionary guard so i assume there's probably not going to be some sort of massive economic benefit from this you know and all you so the result from an economic point of view is simply you know one hundred eight days of economic devastation

Jenna Ellis: yeah and this is frustrating i think to a lot of just you know americans in general who really loved and we remember i mean it wasn't that long ago even though it seems like a million news cycles ago which it probably was how great the economy was heading into twenty twenty right like the pre covid economy was so great for the american consumer for businesses for all that and there was this thought when trump first took office and again in january twenty twenty five that the economy and closing the border and you know america's best interest focus at least domestically was going to be his highest priority and even though we've seen that his priority now is is bringing about you know he wants to bring about peace and is looking more at least in these last few months on the foreign policy side but how much of that do you think is possible if this conflict is resolved that trump could turn his attention to the economy because i think that that is a huge issue right now for so many americans that we're seeing kind of the the remainder of the biden inflation that we really want to see reduced because things are just not just gas prices but overall things are just really expensive and a lot of americans are very frustrated by that and i think if we if trump doesn't do something heading into twenty twenty eight it's going to be very difficult regardless of who it is we're going to for a republican to

Tho Bishop : overcome that you're absolutely correct and i mean one of the i think there was a connection to the increased administration focus on international concerns and the failure of doge because doge was supposed to be the easy one doge was going to create a shortcut to eliminating waste fraud and abuse without congressional oversight right that the whole messy process is legislative process particularly in latin america twenty twenty six and without dealing seriously with the spending problem that i mean that that is one of the major drivers of inflation because like that that helps feed the money creation aspect of it that feeds so much so much of everything else out there and so without getting the spending issue under control i mean the ndaa is going to push military spending up to new new heights again you policy conversation about it but the economic consequences you know again it doesn't matter if you like how the government is spending the money if you believe in the priorities the consequences of the government spending the money is pretty much the same and so that is the broader problem is that the federal government the consequences of COVID sped run straight through you know what last remaining shards of sanity existed you know the post obama post post bush years right i mean it was such a massive escalation of spending we haven't really gotten down i mean we're still not at pre covid levels inflation adjusted from the federal government and so it's very difficult to deal with the pressure that comes from that that gains can be made on the sidelines right you know we're still looking to see the consequences of full time consequences of the tax aspects of the big beautiful bill you know there's always work that can be done on the regulatory side of things innovation and you know obviously ai is going to create a lot of reduced prices in a lot of areas there's going to be some economic consequences to that as well that's a lot of anxiety around it but the biggest problem era has is that our spending addiction is is something that american politicians are not able to do and again i think trump's frustration with domestic policy probably drove a lot of his focus on international policy and whether that was the use of tariffs or obviously

Jenna Ellis: a military conflict that's a really interesting point that a lot of the frustration with what congress isn't focusing on and how much they're spending a lot of money doge wasn't successful and really this is congress's all of that is congress's fault more than the executive that that maybe shifted his focus to say okay well can i at least get something done on the foreign policy perspective and have some wins but it's creating at least the perception if not the reality that then the economy here for americans isn't doing as well and instead of focusing just on that for congress which i think trump needs to do and to push them not only with the save america act but but also you know with some of these other costs lowering measures you know reducing spending all of that he really needs to focus on that hopefully with still having the majority in both houses after november but though bishop we're already out of time you can follow him on x i'd encourage you to do that but you know some really interesting times ahead and as always you can reach me and my team jenna at afr dot net sam