Kevin Freeman: One of my fascinations is World War II

Kevin Freeman: Over the holidays, my family and I had the opportunity to attend a beautiful dance performance based on traditional Chinese dance and culture prior to the brutal Maoist communist takeover. This interested me a great deal, as does the rich history of China. I'm a student of history from multiple eras. One of my fascinations is World War II. So much so that for Christmas, my family gave me an original edition set. It's a six volume set. It's a masterpiece on the Second World War written by Winston Churchill. I treasure it because I know that Churchill stood his ground against tyranny. Some lately have tried to paint Churchill as the villain. but anyone who was alive at the time, and I knew a lot of them in my younger days, will tell you that he was the hero. That's why I often share stories from Dunkirk or the Battle of the Bulge. And my family and you listeners, you have to put up with me. I'm sorry. Ah, speaking of family, my favorite co host in the world, my favorite person in the world is in studio. the love of my life, the mother of our children, my best friend, my life partner, Marnie. Welcome.

Marnie Freeman: Well, thank you. I love being here, love being with you.

Kevin Freeman: Hey, Marnie. did you hear me? I'm starting down the path of war stories.

Marnie Freeman: Oh, my goodness. You know, all the war stories, you know, the heroes and the villains and you know, it's fascinating. I love your knowledge of history.

Kevin Freeman: I can't get enough of them. And thank you for the books and thanks for our daughters, for the books. Even Larry Arne. I called, contacted him to wish him merry Christmas and he was impressed that you were able to get me original edition of this. And he's a Churchill fanatic.

Marnie Freeman: The head of all Hillsdale Colle, who is an expert in on Churchill. Churchill, yeah.

Kevin Freeman: He was impressed. He was.

The story of Doolittle's Raiders involves America's bombing of Tokyo

if you'll indulge me though, I want to tell you a brief story that relates to our guest that's coming in and relates to the program that we saw. It's the story of Doolittle's Raiders. And they made a movie about this. They made it in 1944, before the war was even over. And the title of it was 30 seconds over Tokyo. I don't know that I forced you to watch that one with me, but I'm going to now.

Marnie Freeman: In and out. Yeah. No, I want to see it. After you explained it to me, it was, it's true, true history. That Needs to be known.

Kevin Freeman: Yeah. Well, basically, the story is of America's bombing on Tokyo just four months after Pearl Harbor. And here's what happened. Pearl Harbor. We're dejected as a nation. We've had our number one naval base in the Pacific taken out. and so we said, we've got an impossible mission. How are we going to strike back at, Imperial Japan? Were going to have to hit Tokyo. We had no forward bases. There was no base to take it off of. so we got the gutsiest lieutenant colonel in the Army Air Core, Jimmy, Doolittle, to lead crews of specially rigged, B25 bombers that would be able to take off from an aircraft carrier. From an aircraft carrier, the USS Hornet.

Marnie Freeman: This is crazy.

Kevin Freeman: These aren't fighters that can also drop bombs. These are actual bombers.

Marnie Freeman: And you don't land them back on the ships.

Kevin Freeman: I don't know how you could land them back on the ships. fighter jets could, but not bombers. And so we've got some old war, photos from this. Where you see it. Ah, it takes up the entire deck. It's not Top Gun, where they're just a little tiny plane on a big deck. It takes up the entire aircraft carrier deck. It was a crazy mission to punch the imperialist Japanese in the nose and to show the men and women back home that America was still in the fight, that we've not given up. I know, of this through the movie. I remember watching the movie as a kid. But I also know about it because when I first moved to Carmel, California, I met Doolittle.

Levi Browde: That's amazing.

Kevin Freeman: Yep. He would hold his reunions every year, and a number of years they were in Carmel, I think it was at Quail Lodge. But you could meet him throughout the Monterey Peninsula. And, this made big press because these were genuine American heroes. Most people don't even know who they are today.

Marnie Freeman: That's the kind of bravery that I don't think we, a lot of us, understand.

Kevin Freeman: Oh, bravery, Yeah. I mean, where are you going to land? You can't land in Japan.

Marnie Freeman: So they know they're not coming back.

Kevin Freeman: They're probably not going to come back. So you're going to take off from an aircraft carrier. You're going to fly over Tokyo. If you don't get shot down, which you probably will, and you get to drop your payload of bombs, where are you going to ditch? You're going to ditch in the. In the ocean. You might make it to China. And if you make it to China, even then you'll probably have to run out of fuel and crash land. And that's. You can see there's a picture I've got here from history.net of, Doolittle, sitting on top of his, wrecked bomber, because he couldn't make it all the way back. but this changed the war. This was so powerful. Because of this, Yamamoto had to move up plans to attack Midway, which means we won it. Midway. You've seen that movie. M. I made you watch both the old and the new version, right? Hey, you've seen.

Marnie Freeman: No, I liked it. I liked it.

After B25s crash in Japanese occupied China, Chinese villagers provided food

Well, what happened to the. You said there were 16 bombers.

Kevin Freeman: Yeah, I think what happened. I think 14 of them made it to China. And here's the amazing thing is they were immediately taken in by the wonderful Chinese people. They were loved on, they were protected. The Japanese were incensed. They went after them. And I'm gonna read to you. After the B25s crash in Japanese occupied China, Chinese villagers provided food, shelter and guidance to the FL. Japanese. Retaliation for the Chinese civilians aiding the downed American airmen led to a campaign resulting in an estimated 250,000 Chinese deaths. They just under.

Marnie Freeman: Imperial Japan.

Kevin Freeman: Imperialist Japan just killed a quarter million Chinese because they helped the Americans. And the Chinese people took it because they knew it was the right thing to do.

Marnie Freeman: Look how history changes. Because you see, the Japanese are now our ally and China's.

Kevin Freeman: Well, the Chinese people are our friends. But what happened was Chairman Mao comes along and he takes over with communism. And Communism resulted in 70 million deaths in peacetime, more than any other 20th century leader. China has perhaps the oldest culture on earth, and they were friends. And the Chinese people are still friends of the United States.

Marnie Freeman: Yes.

Kevin Freeman: and Marnie, you and I got to take the family and had the opportunity to see pre communist culture from China recently at a performance of Shen Yun.

Marnie Freeman: Yes.

Kevin Freeman: That was amazing.

Marnie Freeman: It, it really was. It was stunning.

Kevin Freeman: You've told me for years.

Marnie Freeman: Yeah, I wanted to see it.

Kevin Freeman: You would take this ad from previous years and you'd say, I'd like to see that sometime now.

Marnie Freeman: I actually have a program.

Kevin Freeman: See, you have a program because we actually got to go see it.

Levi Browde: Yeah.

Kevin Freeman: it was a beautiful show displaying Chinese history.

Marnie Freeman: And I'm wearing a sweater.

Levi Browde: Yeah, you're a sparkly sweater.

Kevin Freeman: Just looks like.

Marnie Freeman: Because of their costuming. It was beautiful.

Kevin Freeman: They had the long sleeves and then they would. It was beautiful.

Marnie Freeman: Artistry is amazing.

Kevin Freeman: it's definitely not Christian, but it's not anti Christian per se. the show, it talks about a creator. It has good moral lessons. as Christian believers, we know that Jesus is the only way to heaven because we will never be good enough on our own. His shed blood atones for our sins. But they talk about morality and being good people and finding habit. It's very anti evolution. It's very anti atheism.

Marnie Freeman: absolutely.

Kevin Freeman: It really is a beautiful liberty. It's pro liberty. It showcases China prior to communism. And I'll tell you, the Chinese people are wonderful people. They're friends of America. And communism has literally stripped.

Marnie Freeman: That show shows the beautiful country that it once was and their beliefs and their rich history and all of that. And the show is trying to portray that.

Kevin Freeman: So we took our dance major daughter there and her boyfriend, who's a music major, and we talked with them. He loved the music, some of which was traditional Chinese instruments.

Marnie Freeman: Oh, that was really neat to hear in an orchestra.

Kevin Freeman: And some of, the dance, I asked her daughter, is it true? Because what they said was, before gymnastics, before acrobatics was Chinese dance, and it was Chinese dance that allowed these flips and turns and all this, which.

Marnie Freeman: That influenced gymnastics, as I understand it. I haven't fully researched that.

Kevin Freeman: And we heard from our dance major daughter that, yeah, there's truth in that, precedes a lot. And we heard that Chinese dance and classical ballet are the two complete, comprehensive.

Marnie Freeman: Systems of dance they have, as I understand, their system is one of the most comprehensive in dance today. And by system, there's. In ballet, there's vaganava ballet, there's all kinds of, genres and systems, and theirs is supposed to be one of the most comprehensive, which was. You could see it.

Kevin Freeman: You can see it. The talent is there. There's no question about it. The art is there, the beauty is there. The anti communism, anti atheism, anti evolution. It's all there. It is Shen Yun. And we got to see their 2026 performance in Dallas. All right, we need to take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about the beautiful Shen Yun performance. We'll be right back.

Levi Browde is the executive director of Falun Dafa Information Center

Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.

Levi Browde: Yeah.

Kevin Freeman: And over the holidays, Marnie and I and our family got to go to the Eisman center and see the performance of Shen Yun, something that you have wanted to do for years. I think it's the 20th anniversary show.

Marnie Freeman: It is, it is.

Kevin Freeman: I found the dance, the costumes, the music beautiful. And I'm not a big. I've gotten more into dance watching our daughters grow up. It was Never anything that I thought would interest me, but the culture interested me. And that's what I loved about the program.

Marnie Freeman: Absolutely.

Kevin Freeman: the show demonstrated traditional China before communism. And that unfortunately, because of that, Shen Yun is a threat to communist rule. Because it harkens back to the wonderful, beautiful people, the history, the tradition. And communism likes to wipe all of that out and start brand new, fresh. Because that way they can brainwash people. If you remember the old, then you might realize that there's a better way. And they're afraid to let people remember the better way.

Marnie Freeman: All the beauty, the creativity, the ability to free think, the critical thinking not allowed.

Kevin Freeman: As a result, this show and the people behind it are amongst the most repressed people in the world. Members of this same repressed group are behind the popular Epoch Times newspaper that I read and get a lot of great information out of. And NTD news that you might see online or on your cable system. Anyone who's followed either one of those know that they have some of the most objective and important reporting in the industry.

Marnie Freeman: I agree. It's. We need it. We needed them, we need them.

Kevin Freeman: So to better understand the oppression, I want to bring in, a guy. I read this article in Epoch Times. When weaponized journalism threatens our nation. This is the opinion section from the current print edition.

Levi.

Kevin Freeman: Levi, welcome to Pirate Money Radio.

Levi Browde: Thank you very much for having me.

Kevin Freeman: You know you're the executive director with the NewSong York based Falun Dafa Information Center. It's an organization dedicated to ending the human rights abuses against people who practice Falun Gong in China. You serve as a trustee of Ah FAI Tian College, a renowned performing arts conservatory where most of the Shen Yun performers are trained. Your commitment to the arts extends to your family, but you're a human rights leader. You don't normally connect those two. tell us how you got to where you are, who you are and what you do.

Levi Browde: Sure. so 27 years ago, I was meditating in a park. A friend of mine from China had taught me this practice called Falun Gong, this Buddhist based spiritual practice. And I thought it was great. We just started a software startup. We were doing that every morning in the park, and one day he comes in and says, my mother is gone. So I knew nothing really at that point about modern China. and that threw me into this whole world, that the Chinese regime, after praising this spiritual practice for a decade and promoting it and saying, oh, it's wonderful, they found out there's way more people practicing Falun Gong than they are Communist Party members. And so at the turn of the century, 99, they said, okay, we're going to eradicate spiritual practice. And by the millions, Falun people started disagreeing into detention centers, labor camps, camps, all kinds of stuff. And so I've been working on that, really, for the last 26 years, trying to get these stories out, of China and into the West.

Kevin Freeman: Yeah. Now, I want to point out that even the Biden State Department agrees with what you just said. I've got a US Department of State from July of 24 that's smack dab in the middle of the Biden administration. It says, 25 years of PRC, People's Republic of China government repression and abuse of Falun Gong. This is something that's known internationally, but it's not necessarily understood or known by the American people. We just see, beautiful dance tours coming through. And you think, well, I'll go see that. When you get there and you watch this, you realize that there's much more to the story than just a few, beautiful dance pieces.

Levi Browde: Yeah, that's right. So back in 2006, the persecution in Falun Gong is raging across China. People are being tortured, people are dying. Organ harvest, the crime of work. And Hardesty is just coming out. and the media is basically silent. And so some elite artists gathered in upstate NewSong York and said, okay, what can we do? and they put together what at that time was just a group of volunteers coming together saying, look, this is not just about Falun Gong. This is bigger than Falun Gong. This is about trying to put the final nail in the coffin to destroy Chinese culture, the real authentic culture of China. And we can't let that happen. And so they started Shen Yuan, and eventually in a few years, they start college and an academy so that this culture of China could be taught to the next generation and shared with the world. And that's really what you see on stage with Chenyuan is a presentation of the authentic Chinese culture and the true heroism spirit of the Chinese people.

Levi Browde: China is harvesting human organs to fuel lucrative organ transplant industry

Kevin Freeman: Now, I want to pull out of you one of the things that you've mentioned, and you didn't say it casually on, purpose, but it came. It is something that you. You cannot skip over live organ harvesting. And it's something I studied as an economic warfare, consultant to the Pentagon, back in 2008, 2009. And I was telling him this is taking place. It's not just the Falun Gong. It is also the Uighur population and others. Literally, they're taking people and Saying you've got organs that we can send, sell and bring in hard currency. And they're.

Marnie Freeman: And so they'll take an organ and then they will leave the person alive. The person will survive it. And then they're now, yeah, you know.

Kevin Freeman: Like their eyes, they leave them alive so they can take other organs. Right.

Marnie Freeman: It's just horrible.

Kevin Freeman: We saw that. And by the way, in the presentation you saw a man who was there and he was beaten up. And then he goes away and he comes back and his eyes are missing because they sold the eyes.

Marnie Freeman: Right.

Kevin Freeman: This is a real practice. Right?

Levi Browde: I mean this isn't, Absolutely. I think it was. We first heard about it in mid 2000s. The west had a hard time believing this was real. But over the years it's gained a lot of traction, principally the China Tribunal, which was chaired by Jeffrey Nice, who's the guy who put Slobodan Milosevic behind bars or the former Yugoslavia. He chaired a tribunal in London for a year. And their findings after that year, where indeed people were being killed on a massive scale for their organs, Falun Gong was the primary victim. And in many years they were killing upwards of 30,000 people or more in China to harvest their organs and fuel a multibillion dollar organ transplant industry. And this still continues today.

Kevin Freeman: You know, Levi, I just did. I'm doing a show on our sister show, Economic, War Room and I'm talking about the debt bomb and all the implications it has. If you turn against life, which China did with a one child policy, and you reject life, which America has done in large part with abortion and a lot of other things, then you've got to have a replacement. You either have to go into transhumanism and the idea, I'll extend my life for 180 years or whatever, or, I'll upload myself to a computer or whatever. You're looking for body parts. I'm 80 years old, I've got a lot of money, so I need a new kidney. Kill somebody and give me the kidney and I'll pay you for it. This is the worst of any type of economic warfare. This is the worst human atrocity I can imagine. It's all, you know, you almost just say, if you're going to take my spleen and my eyes and my liver, just kill me. You know, it would be better. What they're doing is treating people like body parts. And that's frightening.

Marnie Freeman: It is. I just, I have no words.

Levi Browde: This is one of the places where Xinyun is very Brave. They just put that on stage because, again, the media wasn't covering it. the NGO space didn't really have the ability to penetrate into China and expose us on a large scale. So Shen Yun is one of those organizations. There are others, but two of the organizations that through art is saying, okay, let's put this on stage and let people see not just the horror of what this is, but the beauty of the courage and the spiritual depth of the Chinese people to face that.

Marnie Freeman: It is well done how you depicted it.

Kevin Freeman: It's not grotesque, but it is poignant. It's powerful. All right, so it's important too, because it's been covered. Like you said, the tribunal has documented factually, this is the case. I showed it to the people that I was showing it in the CIA, dia, and Pentagon. This is happening. And they weren't wanting to believe it because China is our ally. China is our friend. and. And there are facts there. It's even in the nih. The National Institute of Health has documented this as a reality. but it started, and you mentioned an important year, Levi, when you said, well, about 1999. Now, I've been studying China for a very long period of time. 1999 is when they published the book Unrestricted Warfare. And they mentioned everything. And that's when oppression really began. They were trying to put on a good face to the world after Tiananmen Square. And prior to 1999, it was pretend we're all friendly, we're all good capitalists here. So they were kind, to the people of China, kinder during that period. But in 1999, it switched. They love Falun Gong because they made good citizens. They don't break the law. They're honorable. They're moral people. But here in 1999, now we have to eradicate them. And that's happened when they began to emerge with unrestricted warfare.

Levi Browde: Yeah, absolutely. And we've seen unrestricted warfare. I mean, think of that as a playbook. We've seen that actually play out on the American landscape over the last 25 years. And Falun Gong is a component of that, a victim of that. An example of that. Yeah.

Kevin Freeman: Epoch Times has published a great infographic. I remember because I was talking about this and I saw it in the paper, opened it up and saw it in the paper. I called and got permission to reprint the infographic which I was given in my blogs and in my books, because it is so comprehensive. It's titled China's Secret War Against America. And you can Walk through there and you can see step one, demoralize. Step two, destabilize. Step three, open conflict. And step four, intervention. And we see China, the Communist Party, not the people. The people are wonderful. Before you came on leave, I was talking about how wonderful the Chinese people were before communism to protect Doolittle and his Raiders after 30 seconds over Tokyo. And they gave a quarter million lives to protect the Americans, to help us win against imperialist, Japan. The Chinese people are wonderful, sacrificial, honorable, terrific people. but they're under this, extraordinarily repressive system, kind of like the Venezuelans under Madero. Seeing a pattern here. Okay. All right, I need to insert a quick on air read. it's about money. In a lot of cases, it's economic warfare. And there are only three things you can do with your money. You can give it, you can spend it, you can invest it. Here at Pirate Money Radio, we work to explain solutions that support all three areas in a way that promotes liberty, security and values. Patriot Mobile, it's a mobile phone company, supports the Pirate Money radio program. Patriot Mobile uses US carriers including AT&T VAR, Ryzen and T Mobile, and operates on both Apple and Android phones. More information about the economic war room. Patriot Mobile is [email protected] AFR that's PirateMoneyRadio.com AFR all right, we're talking with Levi. He's explaining to us you've got a great, great website that I found your bio at. can you tell our viewers what your personal website is?

Levi Browde: Sure. Well, my website, I've got a website for myself, levibrowdy.com where I publish interviews, articles and things like that. But I'm primarily, I'm the executive director of the Falun Golf Information center, which is the clearinghouse. All these stories from inside China and really transnational pressure on the world together in one place.

Kevin Freeman: And that's, that's wonderful. All right, we'll be back more with Levi Brody and, Pirate Money Radio right after this break. We'll be right back. Pirate Money Radio helping you give, spend and advance, invest in ways that align with liberty, security and values. Welcome back with your host, Kevan Freeman. Yeah, and I'm joined by Marnie Freeman and Levi Browdy, from Shen Yun and from the group, I think you've got some family that's involved in this. I saw a picture of you with your family that's involved with Shen Yun. You've got two dancer sons, is that right?

Levi Browde: Yeah, it's quite a story, actually, because I knew nothing about dance and didn't really care for it, actually, to be honest. and my boys, I raised them as baseball players. You know, they were pitchers, they were. They were pretty good hitters. you know, they were looking. They were on a track to do baseball. They got in with some friends who were doing classical Chinese dance. And what I witnessed immediately was that it was kind of like a combination academy. You know, I don't know if you've ever been karate dojo with a lot of discipline and respect and camaraderie that you build with people in your dojo. I saw that in the Chinese dance discord. So I was very supportive. What I didn't expect is, for a few years they would get rather good at it. So they really. Eventually they dropped the baseball. Took me a while to get over that. they became proficient dancers, in the college, and they applied to the practicum program that allows them to dance alongside the professionals in Shen Yun. And they've been touring the world for the last few years now with Shen Yun, and it's been absolutely remarkable.

Kevin Freeman: Well, you know, we. Marnie and I had daughters, and they were both dancers, and they taught me that they're athletes. Dancers are as much an athlete, if not more. And I remember that show. What was it game plan that had Dwayne the Rock Johnson as this star football quarterback, and he met his daughter, and she's a ballet dancer, and so he thought he'd take a ballet class and. And it kicked his rear end. I mean, because it takes so much discipline and so much athletic skill to be a great dancer. It really is impressive.

Marnie Freeman: Yeah, they. They had a good time, but it. It, You. You're right. In the discipline of it. It's. It's, I can't even. They were in her program. They have, you know, like, football and baseball. They have the athletic directors and the skilled, help of all kinds, medical and everything. in our daughter's program, they have the same thing. And her program is dance. Yeah, they have athletic trainers. They have all of it.

Kevin Freeman: You use muscles that you did not know you had when you tried to dance. So your sons have been involved. But there's more than one company that travels the country. I think, when it started in 2006, there was one, but now it's grown, right?

Levi Browde: That's right. In 2006, it was not just one, but it was just a group of volunteers. You know, this is just a, the startup story of cn is remarkable. It puts Hewlett Packard and Apple to fame, quite frankly. But, yeah, now it's gone from a group of volunteers to eight companies that travel the world simultaneously during the tour season. And they go all over Europe, all over Americas.

Kevin Freeman: Eight companies. So I've looked at, and if people want to see the performance, the.

Levi Browde: Website is what, Shenyun.com s h.

Kevin Freeman: E n y u n.com Shenyun.com and you can see that they're. You know, we saw them in Dallas, which was. Which was fun, at the Eisman center, but. And they'll be back at the Eisman center later this month, but they'll be in Houston, San Antonio, and all over at, great opportunities to see this. It's grown so much. It's fun, it's entertaining, it's enlightening. But it really does have that miracle story in that they've grown so rapidly in such a short period of time, out of nowhere. I mean, when we got married, that didn't exist.

Marnie Freeman: That's true. Well, he said 2008 or something, right? No. yeah.

Levi Browde: I find there's a real secret to their success. It's interesting because, you know, you saw the show, and so you see that they portray spiritual values, they portray sort of moral values. Patience, loyalty, compassion. What's interesting is that that's not an act. If you look at the culture of the company, every day the company is meditating together, they're reading scripture together, they're doing discipline together, they're encouraging each other. They don't have prima donnas. The more you become a principal dancer, the more you help others. So when they get on stage to portray these values, I think what really touches people. People is they're not acting. They really live these principles. And I think that comes through in the performance.

Chinese Communist Party infiltrates American media to put out false narrative

Kevin Freeman: Yeah, well, it does come through in the performance. And yet the Chinese Communist Party has made a point to try and build a false narrative about that same company. This is what you were talking about with weaponized journalism threatening our nation. For example, the NewSong York Times, apparently got some favors from the Chinese Communist Party. By the way, I've been to China. Last time, though, was January 1999. Shortly before we got married, I visited Hong Kong and then Shenzhen, China, doing investment analysis. but, at that time, everything seemed very open to. We love freedom. We love America. We're heading this direction. And then something switched about that time, and now we see the CCP infiltrating the American media in order to put out A false narrative. Can you describe that, false narrative from the NewSong York Times and what they were trying to claim and how false it is?

Levi Browde: Sure. I mean, one thing to understand is the CCP's been going after Tiny for 20 years. They send diplomats all over the world, pressure theaters, pressure local governments. They flashed our tires, we had 24, 7 security on our buses everywhere we go around the world. None of that worked. And that was recognized in the highest levels of the Chinese regime years ago. They put out orders that they said, we need to use the, legal system in the US and the media to drive a wedge between Shen Yun American people and the government. And that's exactly what were seeing. And so if you look at the NewSong York Times as an example, the three key interviewees, the former performers with Shen Yun, the key is what they don't tell you. So they have complaints about, it's abusive, it's this or that, and Shen Yin. What they don't tell you is that these were dancers that either were kicked out because of their behavior or didn't make the cut and were not hired by Shen Yin. They then to support and volunteer for Schenging organizations for years. And it wasn't until, by their own admission, it wasn't until they start working with the Beijing Dance Academy, a government run program run by the cct, that now they go and interview the NewSong York Times. Now they make accusations, now they fly masses. All of this really stems from that kind of activity.

Kevin Freeman: Well, you know, I think it's interesting, in 2006, Marnie, you remember I got to go to Moscow and I got to meet, Bolshoi ballet dancers. I wonder if you did an interview with the Bolshoi Ballet dancers, that had quit or left. I guarantee you it is such a rigorous discipline that people who don't make it tend to complain, complain about it. That is just a normal practice for something at that level. And we see that even in our girls when they were going through ballet. If you didn't make it, then you'd complain. Well, they were abusive in this. That's kind of a normal thing.

Marnie Freeman: It's just that it's elite, and it's small, it's a small community and cultural.

Kevin Freeman: I remember, we went to math program. Our daughter took the Chinese math. And they're very harsh in their discipline to, accomplish. Not no abuse, no nothing. But this is the way that it has to be. And you have to do that if you're going to get that elite at levels.

Marnie Freeman: Absolutely, absolutely.

Levi Browde: Yeah, I would agree. I mean, there's nothing unusual about people not making it. You know, moving on. Some will be disgruntled. All that's normal to be expected of elite organization and a religious organization. There are people who don't want to hold themselves to certain moral standards. Fully understand free country. No problem. What's unusual is how these individuals were brought together and weaponized and caught up in a campaign by Beijing to attack us at a very significant level. That's the unusual part.

Kevin Freeman: Well, and then I would throw in there the NewSong York Times complicity with that, because the NewSong York Times knows better. I'm certain the NewSong York. What's a metropolitan ballot Ballet or company or whatever? I'm certain there are hundreds of stories that they could have reported on from NewSong York City Ballet, but they didn't. They reported here, and they reported. You know, you've got, in your story, examples to where all of a sudden, the NewSong York Times was allowed into China. coincidentally, it just happened by happenstance. Beijing does that, don't they? The Chinese Communist Party does do tit for tat favors.

Levi Browde: Well, I think what's shocking about the NewSong York Times behavior is that Falun Gong is a third rail issue. You'll notice that. You'll read about the Uyghurs, you'll read about what's happening in Hong Kong and in Taiwan, in the newspapers, even in the NewSong York Times, you will not read about what's happened with Falun Gong, because that's considered an existential threat. Falun Gong is 100 million people. It is everywhere. It's military, it's universities, housewives. It's an existential threat to recognize the horrors they bring to Falun Gong and that it's really their own people. And so they really draw a line with Falun Gong. And I think, sadly, wittingly or not, NewSong York Times, a lot of Western media outlets know that line, and they won't go there. And when they do go there, it's a real red flag that it's right in line with Beijing propaganda.

Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, there are certain things that you're not allowed to. You know, it's just certain.

Levi Brody: Only President Trump has recognized the threat from China

Say or do I say.

Marnie Freeman: Levi is a really great interview. He knows media in and out. I mean, he's been interviewed by Wall Street Journal, Chicago Tribune, cnn, Associated Press, of course, the NewSong York Times at one point, Time Magazine, BBC, afp. So he knows what he's talking about in the media. And I would encourage people to read.

Kevin Freeman: This article by him, find it for yourself. Research the truth for yourself. Don't just take the media's word for things. That's what I had to do. This is the shocking thing, Levi. I had to go in and talk to generals and admirals and members of the intelligence agencies, and I said, this is going on in China. And they said, china is our friend, they would never harm us. They're the banker to the United States. And, you know, at the time, the Chinese, Communist Nation held, 12% of our outstanding foreign debt. And I warned them about financial warfare because of unrestricted warfare. I pointed out Chinese language articles that I had translated that said that they were going to stop buying our debt and try and crash our dollar. No, that's not true. They're a banker, they're a friend. They're. You know, they told us that, well, now they hold less than. I think it's around 2% of our total outstanding debt. They owned, one time, 12%. Now they own 2%. They're doing exactly what they said they were going to do, but they were trying to hide it from us and pretend like they were our friends so they could maintain most favored nation status and everything. Only President Trump, only President Trump has recognized the threat that the Chinese Communist Party is. And they're dying as a nation because of their one nation or one child policy.

Marnie Freeman: Well, I mean, they will roll out the red carpet for business leaders, for people, for, political leaders. And you have this one side of China that's just so great and looks good and all that because they prettied up when you're visiting. And, it's really not. You take the walls down. And it's not like that.

Levi Browde: Behind those curtains.

Kevin Freeman: I met a PRC person, @ Heritage foundation, and I told the truth. And she came up afterwards and I said, you're pla, aren't you? And she said, yes. I said, are you gonna whack me? And she said, no, we own half this town. I said, who owns the other half? She said, the Saudis. This is a really interesting exchange. All right, we'll cover this and more with Levi, Brody right after the break. Pirate Money Radio, helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security and values.

Kevin Freeman: Live organ harvesting is one of the four evils of communism

Welcome back with your host, Kevan Freeman. And I'm joined by my bride. we've been three decades we've been together. Love of my life.

Marnie Freeman: Marnie. Not long.

Kevin Freeman: Enough. Not long enough. Well, I hope we have another three decades, but I love you. I loved going with you to Shen Yun, in Dallas. It's something you wanted to do for years. I'm m. Like, yeah, put it off, put it off, put it off. And finally we did it because.

Marnie Freeman: Like, you and Levi, you weren't into that dance. You didn't understand it. Didn't. I didn't even really understand that world, and I was in it when I was.

Kevin Freeman: Younger. I'm pretty impressed by.

Marnie Freeman: It. It's.

Kevin Freeman: Impressive. It is impressive. and what I love is. Is.

Levi Browde: The.

Kevin Freeman: The. The little red pills of truth. You know, we don't believe in evolution, we don't believe in atheism, and we do believe in tradition and, you know, a respect for a creator and things like that. There were a lot of little red.

Marnie Freeman: Pills. And then the Chinese culture before communism. The beauty of.

Kevin Freeman: It. Yeah. And communism, that's a real threat to this world and to our nation. It's one of my four horsemen of the American apocalypse. The. The Chinese communists, the Islamists, the globalists, and then the cowards and traitors here that enable them. and it's about money. In many, many cases, the live organ harvesting is to make money.

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New York City just elected a socialist mayor, Mamdani

So in NewSong York, and I gotta ask you about the. This Levi case. You live in the state of NewSong York, not the city, but the, NewSong York City just elected a socialist. Mayor Mamdani. He says he's a socialist, but he's using communist language when he says, we'll replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of Collectivism. How do the Fleers of communism feel about the election of.

Levi Browde: Mamdani? You know, that's been one of the great educations of my life for the last 25 years. Spending nights, weekends, hours after hour after hour with my Chinese friends who came out of China and lived through the cultural. Lived through the Great War, lived through all those campaigns and the transformation of what was the contiguous civilization on earth. Very spiritual. And to become what it was at the height of the Cultural Revolution, children were parents to be tortured and killed. And how did this madness come about? And it's interesting for them to look at the American landscape and the landscape around the west and say, oh, there's a warning sign. There's a warning sign. oh, you're starting to tear down statues of George Washington. You're starting to, desecrate the writings of the founders. That's exactly what they did in China under Mao. You better watch out. And they're constantly having these anecdotes and these stories about what they experienced in China and what they fear is coming to.

Kevin Freeman: America. Wow. And I fear it too. Marnie, did you see that quote from the new tenant director of, NewSong York City? Her name, Sia Weaver. Do you see? Do you see her quote? Do you have.

Marnie Freeman: It? So, we will transition property to treating as a collective good or shared property. This will especially impact white property owners. Are you kidding.

Kevin Freeman: Me? Pushing racism, Pushing communism right there. First week of Mamdani as mayor. It sure sounds like communism to.

Marnie Freeman: Me. He did say this before. Nobody listened or we've ignored it. I don't know. But he did say something akin to this before, and he's actually falling through on his word, which politicians tend not to do. But we have this one who's going to carry out everything he.

Kevin Freeman: Said. You know, Epoch Times has published a great book series. I've got it on the shelf behind me. the Specter of Communism. something like that. The specter of communism over the world warning us, as so many others have, but they've just kind of collected it. What would happen, Levi, if America were to fall? What happens to the world if America.

Levi Browde: Falls? Oh, my goodness, I shudder to think. you know, I think it's. Yes, it's also. It's certainly democracy, republicanism. What we talk about in terms of a system of government, but also I think more fundamental is a people who believe in a creator. And that the purpose of life is to be good so that you can return to heaven and to not have that as the foundation of society, I think, leads to, enormous amount of chaos. And that's what I.

Kevin Freeman: Would. Communism is all about. Atheism. Ah. You can't believe in any. Excuse me, God. Other than government. I think the CCP has infiltrated various levels of American government, either through election or bribery or whatever. I mean, when I saw Biden getting all that money from Communist China, it was frightening to me. What did you all think when you saw.

Marnie Freeman: That? Oh, I mean, you see it for sure. It's all the signs that he's saying. people not being able to talk or say things from the street or on their own media. Social media gets shut down. People just got arrested the other day in Dallas for preaching outside of a game of some kind. We have no freedom. I mean, we're starting to get locked down and tear down all the statues and those things. That's happening, too, and has been for.

Kevin Freeman: Years. Well. And they've been buying corporations. Go ahead.

Levi Browde: Levi. Yeah, and it's just. We just had. Just to give you an example, we had two guys, two Chinese spies were arrested and put in jail by the DOJ for trying to bribe US Government officials to investigate Shenyan. And just sort of think about that, how brazen that is, that they'd be in America. They'd attempt to do that against Shen Yun, just to silence Shen Yun. If they're doing that to a dance company, you can't imagine what they would be doing to target our government leaders, our corporate leaders, our media leaders. it was a real window on just how far they would go to control the narrative and control the thinking here in.

Kevin Freeman: America. And they've also been bribing people to bring in, literal bioweapons into universities. they've been bribing and infiltrating, Wall street so that we've sent all this money to Communist China for fake companies. And again, I want to make it clear, I believe we started this program with me, extolling the virtues of the Chinese people and how they were willing to. A quarter million of them were killed by imperialist Japan, to protect Jimmy Doolittle and his raiders, because they believed in liberty and they loved freedom and they loved America. And here, now the Chinese Communist Party, the government, which is smaller than the group that you represent, Levi, in China, is controlling. They are the pigs of Animal Farm, controlling everything and threatening things.

Dance company started 20 years ago is pushing back against Communist influence

It really is. That's why this little tiny dance company that started 20 years ago is so important in a pushback to say, hey, you can't Kill us. We're here and we're going to show you the truth and we're going to show you dance, and we're going to show you beauty, and we're going to show you China before.

Marnie Freeman: Communism. Well, I mean, it's all, it's human rights too. And yes, one dance company that is. They have to go after them. It is really astounding bribing American.

Kevin Freeman: Officials to investigate a dance company. Never heard of such a.

Levi Browde: Thing. And also, I think there's also, I think there's an element that in many ways are the, latest edition of the Pilgrims. I mean, here is a group of people who horribly persecuted their homeland, come to America with their faith, their hard work, single resource, but the liberty this country gives them, the protections this company gives them, allows them to build something great and then export that to the rest of the world. And I think that's American story as.

Kevin Freeman: Well. You know, I pick up on the Pilgrims because we do talk a lot about them. And we had a Thanksgiving show. You know, the Pilgrims came here and they were looking for religious freedom and they were looking to apply these principles of hard work and everything. But they tried socialism. They did, and it failed them miserably at the Plymouth Colony. Collectivism, you know, the warmth of collectivism wasn't very warm that winter. And until they installed individual liberty, they didn't have a chance to have Thanksgiving. They would die off if they'd stayed with.

Marnie Freeman: Socialism. As I said before, in theory it sounds good, but in practice, it does not absolutely.

Kevin Freeman: Work.

Levi Browde: Shen Yun raises our consciousness about forced organ harvesting

Yeah, well, Shen Yun, I've got this article here you wrote Levi, the media, Shen Yun blind spot. Shen Yun doesn't just entertain. It raises our consciousness. It shines a light on all of this where few dare to trade. Case in point, one, Former NewSong York Times correspondent Dede Kirsten Tallow testified to the tribunal that her attempt to report on, forced organ harvesting was suppressed. Impressed by her Times editors. Look, Shen Yun is a beautiful show. It's almost always sold out. Although I did hear from some of the performers that the Chinese Communist Party is trying to keep people away so that it's an empty halls that you're performing to. What are you doing to stop.

Levi Browde: That? I mean, the first thing we do is we, we try and just expose everything we can. I mean, like, for example, this year the Chinese regime has been posting all kinds of things on social media. Writing fake letters, impersonating people that don't exist, writing these letters to theaters, threatening them that if they either are bomb threat and they're going to get bombed or threatening that no China will ever perform in the theater again. They'll be outcasts. And so there's a tremendous pressure being put on, not just us as a company, but really on theaters where we perform, perform around the.

Kevin Freeman: World. Well, where can people learn more about the show and get tickets? I've got 10.

Levi Browde: Seconds. Go to Shenyun.com S-H-E-N Y U N.com thank you.

Kevin Freeman: Levi. Thanks for joining us. I hope you have. And Shen Yun has a wonderful.

Levi Browde: 2026. Thank you very much for having me, Kevan. We're off to a great start. I'm sure we.

Kevin Freeman: Pray for America in 2026

Kevin Freeman: Will. All right, if you have questions, prayer needs comments, you can email [email protected] I want to say happy NewSong Year to you, Marnie, to all our viewers and listeners. Pray for America. Pray for us to return to God's principles in 2026. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. This is Kevan Freeman, joined by Marnie Freeman for Pirate Money Radio.

 

From Doolittle’s Raiders to Shen Yun, Kevin and Marnie explore China’s rich pre-communist culture and the courage of its people. Guest Levi Browde details human rights abuses against Falun Gong, including forced organ harvesting and media suppression. The discussion examines weaponized journalism, CCP influence operations, and why Shen Yun’s artistic mission matters. A timely look at culture, liberty, and how economics and ethics intersect on the world stage.