Today's Issues continues on AFR with brother Chris Woodward
>> Chris Woodward: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome back, everybody, to the last 24 and a half minutes of Today's Issues. It's the name of this show on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed Wesley. And now Chris Woodward joins us. Good morning, brother Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: so we were talking about earlier, last hour, bagpipes came into the conversation. I don't know how it came into the conversation. Does anybody remember exactly?
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's hard to.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wait, he remembers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Fred mentioned our.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, you mentioned our theme music. Our theme music.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Our show theme music.
>> Tim Wildmon: We should switch to bagpipes. Yes. And I said, I don't think so. Right, correct. Which. And, I went on to say, I like bagpipes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You did say that.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, small doses.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, right. Like at funerals is what.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you know, or, you know, maybe here or there.
>> Chris Woodward: That's what he said.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or if, you know, if I'm walking, I'm walking through the hills of Scotland or something like that. I, like to hear the heels.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Or watching a Liam Neeson movie.
>> Tim Wildmon: Gentleman called in Tom.
>> Tim Wildmon: He listens to our show, and he's a Scotsman who plays the bagpipes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No kidding.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he wanted brother Tim to know that they are called bagpipers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, the bagpipe men.
>> Tim Wildmon: What did I call them? Do you remember?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Bagpipe men?
>> Tim Wildmon: Bagpipe men. That's not really offensive, is it?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no, it's not insulting.
>> Tim Wildmon: But they're called bagpipers. That's what they're called.
>> Chris Woodward: What was his name?
>> Tim Wildmon: his.
>> Chris Woodward: Tom. I have a question for Tom.
>> Tim Wildmon: He said he was in movies.
>> Chris Woodward: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does anybody know he's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What he's in?
>> Tim Wildmon: He didn't stars in movies.
>> Chris Woodward: He stars in movies, Tom.
>> Tim Wildmon: He wouldn't give his last name.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's. That's Tom Con.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead, Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: You see a lot. You see a lot of this in, like, TV shows and films, but whenever there's a funeral for, like, a fire department, somebody in the fire department or police department, and there's the big funeral, everybody's in their dress blues and stuff like that, there's always a bagpiper. And I've always wondered, why are there bagpipes played?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I. I think it's because, in some of those northern cities, there was a time when there were a lot of Irish and Scots. Scotsman, on the police forces in those, big cities. So I think that's where the. Where that developed.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I wouldn't mind doing It. I just couldn't wear the skirt. That's.
>> Chris Woodward: That's the only thing. It's a kill.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a kill. it's not a skirt.
>> Wesley Wildmon: what's the difference?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, let's stop right there. We're going to get into, you know, Scottish culture and things like that, and we'll hurt some feelings.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It was. No, mine was just a preference comment.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a kill.
>> Chris Woodward: William cleaned house wearing a kilt.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. I'm not going to tell William Wallace he' wearing a dress right now.
>> Chris Woodward: He can deal freedom all he wants to play more.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so the bagpipes. Bagpipes are played by bagpipers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Simple enough.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good knowledge.
Chris: I feel like we made this worse than we made it better
>> Wesley Wildmon: I feel like we made this worse than we made it better.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what we do usually do.
>> Tim Wildmon: well, I'm as normal. I'm the one that's trying to keep this show on track.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: Keep it out of the ditch, Chris.
>> Ed Vitagliano: After driving it there first. Then you start saying, let's get out of this ditch.
New research indicates the number of Americans identifying as religious may have stabilized
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Chris, what's your first story there?
>> Chris Woodward: I bring in some good news.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you bring in good news, Chris?
>> Chris Woodward: Oftentimes I ruin everybody's day with gloom.
>> Tim Wildmon: Can you get your pitch of your voice up a little higher?
>> Chris Woodward: I can. I sure can, sir. Okay, so the good news is, This is a headline from Newsweek. Religion's long decline in America may be plateauing after decades of steady decline. New research indicates that the number of Americans identifying as religious may have stabilized, signaling a possible plateau in the nation's ongoing religious transformation. This is according to some new research from Pew Research Center. and one of the experts, interviewed by Newsweek says this is a striking change from the past few decades, which have seen measures of religious belonging behaving and believing dropping across the country. So this is very good news. And I think it's to the credit of various, organizations, ministries, not just ours, but churches that go door knocking and are actually out there sharing the truth and the gospel with people.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I think there's probably a general tendency of human beings. We see this. It's in the Bible, kind of that when things are going well, people tend to forget about God.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Their need for God.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, their need for God. in fact, there was a, Abraham Lincoln. It was a national call for repentance. I think he mentions we have prospered over these years, and now this war has made us realize we have forgotten God and we had things going fairly well for some of these decades. And, the percentage of people who said that religion played an important part in their lives went from like 66% to 49%. Pretty steep drop. but now things are getting very. I think people are becoming pretty insecure about what is, what we're facing in this country, what's going on in the world, possibility for world wars, economic calamity.
>> Tim Wildmon: There are narco submarines out there right now, narcos going across the Atlantic Ocean. You don't think people are worried?
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're worried about that. And so I think that it makes people search for something stable and religion and in this country, especially Christianity, fills that role. So I'm glad it good to hear that this is plateauing. I don't know if my explanation is, is, is the, the only one out there? I'm sure there are several things that might have contributed to the decline and the seeming plateau. But anyway, that makes sense to me.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I would compliment that by saying that the, the left have got, has gone so far left that people are wanting. They're seeing the, the reality of what progressivism. Look. And now they see that a lot of people, a lot of young men are saying that that didn't, that didn't work. I don't like it. So then what's the alternative? And they say, well, this is not. They've been lied to a lot. And so now they're looking for truth. And if you're seeking for truth and you're wanting to find truth, there's a lot. You got the truth right, which is capital T. But you also have just truth in general that you get from scripture.
>> Tim Wildmon: And.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, and so, I think that leads you to a more stable biblical worldview, which then leads to Christianity, which is why you're seeing a little bit of a plateau.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's Pew research. They're pretty reputable. But that doesn't necessarily say Christianity, even though in America that's what we first think. No, but it says for general. This is the report from Newsweek. For generations, Christianity has played a central role in American society, shaping everything from voting behavior to community organizations, which is true. America is traditionally a Christian dominant country. If you want to go for one particular religion, it's Christianity that has been dominant in the American culture and seen. But, it has waned. The influence of Christianity has waned over the last. Since secularism has been in the forefront of our pop culture for the last 40 years or so. but it's, it's good, it's good to see maybe that the bleeding of the out of the Christian church has stopped.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that.
>> Tim Wildmon: On a general sense, that's a good. That's a good sign. Yes, that's a good sign. All right, next up. now we probably need to do a show sometimes on what. What are the growing. we've talked about the dying Christian, at least traditionally, historically Christian denominations or movements, and maybe the ones that are now growing. Yeah, that would be a good insight.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, maybe we could have George Barna on someone like George Barnum to discuss that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Federal government stopped production of the penny because it's not cost effective
All right, next story. Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: Well, in recent weeks, the federal government stopped production of the penny because it's not cost effective anymore for we the people to be, making.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So they say.
>> Chris Woodward: So they said, go ahead. So they say, well, now it appears that if you're like me and you're still out there writing checks for things. I'm an older millennial. I still write.
>> Tim Wildmon: I got a bunch of pennies. Yeah, you guys are springing something on me here.
>> Chris Woodward: You can still.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you saying that they're. They not. I can't.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're not going to be minting any more pennies.
>> Chris Woodward: You can still spend them.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You. I think you were on vacation. Seriously?
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The week that we covered that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Spend it, Benny's.
>> Tim Wildmon: What am I supposed to do with my pennies now, though?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, the good news is there's something like 300 billion pennies in circulation, which is why I personally don't buy the argument. This is what I said, I don't buy the argument. Yes, it does take 4 cents to make a penny, but they stay in circulation forever. It's like buying a car that you can drive for 20 years. You can't just go by the cost when you paid for it.
>> Chris Woodward: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And a nickel costs 14 cents to mint, so we're gonna stop making nickels. We're not making nickels. And I think this is a communist plot. And that's all I'm gonna say about it.
>> Chris Woodward: I'm actually. In all seriousness, I've seen several businesses in this area and I'm sure it's not the only place, but, they have signs up now talking about due to the issues with pennies, please have exact change when paying with cash.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Exactly. This is what I'm telling you.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm telling you it's a commie plot. And I don't want to talk about it.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Here's another one.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll tell you before you get to that. And tell you how to solve this problem.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because I do have an answer to my own Issue in terms of pennies. I said, I got a lot of pennies. Yeah. So I saved change throughout the year.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I got a big. Collector, of change.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: In about two years, it fills up. Take it down to Kroger. Yeah. They got this machine.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. You pour that in.
>> Tim Wildmon: You pour that in coin star. And it counts it up for you. Of course.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And you get cold hard cash.
>> Tim Wildmon: Of course. You have no idea. Nor do you care. You have no idea whether that thing's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Counting your roll quarters.
>> Tim Wildmon: They could be skimming me for $25. I'd never know the difference. As much. What are you going to do?
>> Ed Vitagliano: you do pay a percentage.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: They do say that. Yeah, the machine. But you pour all your change in the machine and it counts it for you, and it gives you a cash credit. And you walk up to the counter and they give you. Yeah, they give you money. But, so that's what you do with your pennies.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You don't lose any value for them right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And then the banks keep those pennies to take them out of circulation. Because it's a communist.
>> Tim Wildmon: You mentioned that. Yes.
The Federal Reserve has requested public input on potential changes to checks
>> Chris Woodward: Well, here's another possible communist plot to be. People need to be made aware of. The Federal Reserve has requested public input on the impact of potential strategic changes.
>> Tim Wildmon: What now? Those four words you put together,
>> Chris Woodward: Requested public input on the impact of potential strategic changes to check services provided by the Fed for people not aware the Federal Reserve offers check collection and processing services at a fee to banks and credit unions. The issue is, is that in recent years, check use has steadily declined, digital payment methods have grown in availability and use, and check fraud has risen. So the Federal Reserve wants people, banks and private citizens to tell them whether or not they're still doing checks, handling checks, writing checks, all these kinds of things, because the, maybe going the way of pennies.
>> Tim Wildmon: First of all, let's just. Before we get into this discussion, because looking around this room, there's various forms of opinions on checks being used today. I think we should withhold judgment about, you know, whether somebody's a bad person or good person. This is our dumb or smart.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Can we do that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: Can we agree that this isn't in the Bible?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Bible doesn't say anything about checks. Not a core issue.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I will agree to keep my judgment internal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, I do want you to share it, because this is a real issue.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, we just don't get passionate about it unless we force, it into a core issue.
>> Tim Wildmon: Chris can. You heard how he can raise his voice.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Chris Woodward: I sure did.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. See, he gets up to Pinocchio level. He really gets us. This is a. The Federal Reserve Board on Thursday. Last Thursday, I guess, requested public input. So they haven't made a final decision. I guess the issue is where are we going with handwritten checks? In our society, we seem to have, almost. We moved away from checks. what would you say, 80, 20 maybe? Electronic transfer?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, this article says only 7% of people in our country pay their bills with checks.
>> Tim Wildmon: We do a hybrid. We pay a few bills with checks and a few bills with the automation.
>> Chris Woodward: We do that as well.
>> Tim Wildmon: Automated draft. Same for you. I don't know if every place allows for an automated draft. for that it's convenient way to most.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I know that there's, I think one of the utility companies in the small town that I live in. You have to pay with a check.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. I actually got a passport earlier this year, and the State Department required that I write a check to pay for the passport. They would not take a credit card or a debit card.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. I won't let y' all finish. I have a slightly different problem.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I have a different problem. Similar category.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I have a problem with going to check out at a concession stand and they won't take cash.
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yes, Yes. A, number of places our university. The concession stand does not take what I'm thinking about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They don't want someone getting robbed with a bunch of cash.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I have not got to the bottom of it because I just stay mad that I never even.
>> Tim Wildmon: Going on across the country.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm looking at this and I'm saying, you have two pizzas in a Coke and I have 20 dol. And you don't want this.
>> Chris Woodward: But you're saying.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And there's. And there's no. There's no processing fee here.
>> Tim Wildmon: That makes you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, you mean that when they use the debit card, it's not charging you an extra.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, it does, but cash doesn't. That's the point I'm making.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Like that may be the point why.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They'Re maybe so cash, but that. That gets me working.
Ohio bill would require all businesses to take cash up to $500
I know this has nothing to do with the article you just wrote or that you wrote that you were reading about, but it has to do with cash and money and with the way of paying for things.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Correct.
>> Chris Woodward: I. And while we're at it, I don't want to order from the app. I want to order from a human being at a counter and pay cash. The Way God intended.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So it is in the Bible.
>> Chris Woodward: This is the cwb.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This, this is an issue with Americans, this whole thing, all we're talking about.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cash versus debit checks.
>> Tim Wildmon: Generational somewhat too.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But Ohio, remember Ohio is. I don't know whether it's passed, but they were. A law had been, put forth which would require all businesses to take cash up to $500.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And, and there's a read. There's got to be a reason people must be complaining that the businesses are not taking cash. And, and for a biblical perspective on it, a lot of Christians are leery of, a cashless society and everything being run through a bank, which is run by the government.
>> Chris Woodward: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And they keep track of everything you do and they know how much money you got and all that. There's, there is a spiritual component to that for a lot of Christians.
>> Chris Woodward: Something that strikes me with the Ohio, bill or law there. I'm, I'm curious as to why it even needs to be like, brought up and made a law. Because literally the money says, like, for all dads, public and private, like, you shouldn't even have to. It shouldn't be a discussion.
>> Tim Wildmon: You shouldn't have to pass a law. Now I can understand that. We went to a restaurant last night and there's a sign on the door. Well, it's not on the door, but it's a sign right beside the door before you enter. Sign. Nobody reads the provider and the phone. Most people don't read it, but I was reading it last night said, we don't take checks. So, But I, I can understand that because checks bounce.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Check, yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Cards, I get all that, but cash is my.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, I think everybody should take cash.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Cash. And, and credit card or debit card, a check. Okay. But that, that check, well, a lot of. Wait a second.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, I, I understand because I will say early in Diane and I, our marriage, when we were making next to nothing, Right. We became really good at the art of floating a check. You guys all remember doing that.
>> Chris Woodward: I've heard of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: How does that work, Ian?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you know, you go out to eat on Wednesday and you get paid on Friday, you write a check because you know exactly how long it takes for that check.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: To go. Yeah, well, you don't post date it. It just takes time for the business to send the check to the bank and the, And you know that. And, and so we got very good at floating, floating checks. I, I hope people aren't, you know. I know. I don't want.
>> Tim Wildmon: Dan.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're just Rob West.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're just remembering back when you were dirt poor and you were a new newed couple.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. Okay, so. But my understanding is, man, like, 20 years ago, 25 years ago, when you gave a check, they would run it through some machine, and the bank would either say yes or no.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That there was no more floating check.
>> Tim Wildmon: To happen after the Internet.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You did. Yeah. And so I'm kind of surprised that businesses will say we don't take checks. Maybe they want their money right then.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you ever do that in the, server or something? Brought your check back to your table?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, no, no. When I say I got good at.
>> Tim Wildmon: It.
>> Ed Vitagliano: There was no guess.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Floating checks. All right.
>> Chris Woodward: You never.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You ever heard that expression?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I've heard. Yeah, I've heard it. Didn't know exactly what it was. Yeah, well, art to it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It was an art. And I was an artiste.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Chris: Scam warning alert on today's show
All right, next story. Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: this one. You know, from time to time on the show, we warn people about scams.
>> Tim Wildmon: We do.
>> Chris Woodward: and so this is continuing that discussion.
>> Tim Wildmon: Scam warning alert.
>> Chris Woodward: I'll share this on our Today's Issues Facebook page after the show wraps.
Fox News story says your holiday shopping data needs a cleanup
But there is a story on Fox News today, and the headline is why your holiday shopping data needs a cleanup. Now, it says if the ads you see in December feel a little too accurate, you're not imagining it. What if the ads you see in feel a little too accurate, you were not imagining.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: the holiday shopping season is the busiest time of the year for retailers and for data brokers. These companies quietly track, collect, and sell your personal information. Every search, click cart, ad, and purchase feeds a digital shopping profile tied to your name, phone number, email, and address. If you don't clean this up before. Before the year ends, that profile is going to follow you into the new year and you'll start to get more scam calls, targeted ads, identity theft attempts, and other things.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted by this. This is a true thing.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I went. I usually order books.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Thought you were exhausted at him.
>> Chris Woodward: I did. No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm exhausted with scams and with people following you around. I, normally order books from a, website called Thrift Books. They're relatively cheap. You can buy used books there. I usually do that instead of Amazon because they're roughly the same in price. But I want to take a little business away from Amazon, give it to somebody else, you know, before they take over the world. And I will order a book. I will order a book from Thriftbooks, and then when I'm on the Internet, you know, going somewhere, the same book will pop up. And I'm just going, I just ordered this. I'm not buying it again, but it shows you how tracked we are. I looked for a Bruins sweatshirt. This goes back a month ago, because my son, for Christmas, got two tickets to go see the Boston Bruins play in Nashville against the Nashville Predators trip. And this is a gift from his in, laws. And it's three seats, three rows back from the ice. It's primo. Yeah, but it's going to be cold. So I said, I need a Bruins sweatshirt. Okay? I don't have one. And I just looked. Just priced them. That was it. I was just looking. I've been inundated with advertisements everywhere I go. It doesn't matter. You go on to Olive Garden, check up, and then a sweatshirt ad pops up with the Boston Bruins. And, you know, that's what I mean. I'm exhausted with it. I can't keep up with it.
>> Chris Woodward: You know what's funny is, some people, and there may be truth to this, some people think that, like, our phones are listening to us, and that's one of the reasons why you get the ads that you do. So later today, cover my phone up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
>> Chris Woodward: Later today, odds are you're going to be on the Internet and you're going to get that book on the side of the page.
Chris: I'm exhausted from trying not be scammed. I'm in the process of unsubscribing
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so Alison, my wife, was on our website. we have to go to a meeting. We have to go to a meeting in Orlando in January.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just. We feel obligated.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, it's. It's. It's a friend we just can't say no to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You got to do what?
>> Tim Wildmon: You got to support a friend. Oh, yeah, yeah. Got a supporter. Sure, sure. So she was. So she said something like, hey, why don't we go to the beach for a couple of days while we're down, if we're going to be. Go over to Clearwater or Tampa or whatever.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: She said, I'll just search and see what's available over there. You know, what kind of m. So she's searching. And then, right when she gets through searching, bingo, here comes this email in from a company that. Now, before you get too conspiratorial, as it turns out, it was the same company's website that she had already subscribed to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So it wasn't. But. But at the same time, it was somebody's watching you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It was right on it.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they. They knew. She's on our website and we have her email address. We know. We know what area she's looking for. So, pop. Actually, it was a deal where we go. This is interesting. We'll look at this. Maybe we like to stay there. But at the same time, it was kind of eerie that you feel like somebody's right there over your shoulder in the car with you looking over your shoulder, going, what are they looking at? Because I'll send them something that's.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Directly associated with that. You get that all the time. Probably with baseball.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I get that with everything.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's fine. I'm on a mission right now. Just so everyone knows.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Delete everybody.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm in the process of unsubscribing now. You can tell me what.
>> Tim Wildmon: What I already know about that, my friend.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They know that you're alive and real, but I'm just. I don't know what else.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's the part that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That when I say I'm exhausted, that's the part I'm exhausted with. Chris, your story was just.
>> Tim Wildmon: Get a new email.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You need to. You need to start getting a handle on this. Or in 2026. These people are going to beat you to death.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: With their offer. Yeah. And. And I'm just going. I am exhausted with trying to as. Escape the grips of these companies. I'm in their clutches.
>> Chris Woodward: That's gonna be a cause of death now. Exhausted from trying not be scammed.
>> Tim Wildmon: There was a song from the 1980s which went like this. I always feel like somebody's watching me. And that's what. That's what. That's what our world. That's what our world feels like.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So you're exhausted with it. The whole thing. I.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If I didn't have grandkids.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You would beg Jesus to take me home.
>> Chris Woodward: I'm just probably even so Come Lord.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's. That's inappropriate.
Was I supposed to laugh? Maybe my laughter was inappropriate
But I do have grandkids. My wife.
>> Tim Wildmon: But it was funny. But it was inappropriate then. Was I supposed to laugh? Maybe my laughter was inappropriate. I don't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Who knows?
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're done here. See you tomorrow.
