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As our thanks, you can make your gift [email protected] welcome to today's issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. In case you're wondering, today is Tuesday, June 30th. Sweltering 2026, huh? sweltering for. For a lot of the country, yeah. Am I right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: you are.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ed Vitagliano. Good morning, Brother Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Christopher Woodward.

>> Chris Woodward: I lost five pounds just walking from the car to the front door.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that a good thing?

>> Chris Woodward: I. I made weight, or did you know they delivered.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You made weight?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, for the AFA Amateur wrestling series circuit.

>> Tim Wildmon: We have one of those.

>> Chris Woodward: We do now.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. The afa, what did you call it?

>> Chris Woodward: Amateur wrestling.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amateur as opposed to professional. Yeah, yeah, we get wrestling. We have an a. We also have professional wrestling or.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, Mitch is in charge of that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I will say that we do not allow transgender, wrestling.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: In our. In our wrestling.

>> Tim Wildmon: Strictly for business.

>> Wesley Wildmon: We tried it, and it didn't.

>> Tim Wildmon: It didn't work.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It didn't work out, folks. None of this is true. We do not. I'm sorry, we don't have a wrestling.

>> Tim Wildmon: We got a lot to talk about today, including some big Supreme Court decisions, that have, been announced this morning. So we're going to get to that. we do.

There is a heat dome over the Eastern seaboard during July

Thank you for listening to today's Issues in American Family Radio. it is, there is a heat. What they call a dome. I guess we moved away from heat waves. Now we're in heat domes. Right. that's going to encompass. I said encompass. Did you hear me?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I did.

>> Tim Wildmon: The, Eastern seaboard, during July for the next few days. Am I right?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

Chris: Washington D.C. weather for Saturday is expected to be 100 degrees

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, just, for the heck of it, Chris, pull me up Washington, D.C. weather for Saturday, July 4th. Let's see what we got going on in our nation's capital.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Do you want to see how hot it is?

>> Tim Wildmon: I just want to See how hot it is because I'm going to see what these in NewSong York City too is going to be hot.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: It is currently 98, degrees and it's not even noon in D.C. and

>> Ed Vitagliano: that's not the feels like that's the actual thermometer, temperature.

>> Chris Woodward: I have, I have bad news for some people possibly thinking we might get fireworks, on Saturday. there is a good chance of rain in the nation's capital, but it's still going to be 100 degrees.

>> Tim Wildmon: 100 degrees. Okay. I was wondering. It is a very serious. When you get it that hot and that much humidity, it is very serious. It becomes a story because that part of the country that the, as I say, the eastern seaboard, the mid Atlantic, well even some of the south, but most southerners used to it. It's hot in the summer. That's a news place.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Does it count if you say people in the south are used to it if we rely on air conditioning?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, no idea what people.

Did you know it was snowing in Montana yesterday

>> Tim Wildmon: Did you know it was snowing in Montana yesterday?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Snowing in June, almost July.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm lying. I'm dying. Well, look up type in this, is what we do on this show. We talk about topics and then I have Ed look them up on Google.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Snow in Montana,

>> Ed Vitagliano: And Brett, while they're doing that, type in a good recipe for pasta sauce involving mushrooms and hot spicy Italian.

France is blaming the U.S. for record heat wave in Europe

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Wes, Wesley. Wesley, fact checked me. Ah. And tell me, did it snow in Montana yesterday? Yes or no?

>> Wesley Wildmon: A little more than that. 16 inches snow is like 3 to 4 for me.

>> Chris Woodward: All the people down here on Facebook talking about how much they quote, hate the hot weather are now probably booking planes to Montana.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you're gonna go polar opposite right there, but 16 inches, 16 inches of snow in the middle of summer. so you know what the the climate change people, they, they got it made. You know why?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Cherry picking.

>> Tim Wildmon: They what they'll say about that, snow in Montana in June. They'll say, see there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Climate change,

>> Tim Wildmon: heat wave in Boston.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Climate change.

>> Tim Wildmon: What I'm talking about just anywhere you go, it's a win for the Al Gore, you know, minions out there across America.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it is an inconvenient, ideology.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now France is blaming us. France is blaming the U.S. did you see this, WESLEY M. I didn't see that. Yeah, France is blaming the US for they're expansion quote record heat wave in most of a lot of Europe, including France. And Krish, did you tell the Louis,

>> Chris Woodward: we're just Weeks after the anniversary.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Steve's gonna cover that story.

>> Tim Wildmon: Steve's gonna cover that story.

>> Chris Woodward: I mean, we're weeks after the anniversary of, you know, us saving the French and other European people from the Nazis. Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, they're.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We weren't the only ones.

>> Tim Wildmon: Their leader is blaming us for their heat wave. And it's, hurtful, quite frankly, to be blamed for a heat wave on the other side of the ocean. But we'll let Steve report on that, right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, I think the details on that.

>> Chris Woodward: Let's be honest. Let's be fair, too. Americans have plenty of jokes about the French, being responsible for world problems.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are they?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, some people would say so.

>> Tim Wildmon: Some people.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Some people.

>> Wesley Wildmon: There you go.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Not me. Some. Some people say, but. But not me.

>> Chris Woodward: It's a fact. There are people out there that stereotype the French as being responsible for some of, the world's problems.

Supreme Court rules that state laws banning males from female sports are lawful

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Krish, what's your first news story?

>> Chris Woodward: All right, the Supreme Court today issued rulings in a couple of cases. the first big one that came out, was the sports case, where the Supreme Court ruled 6 to 3 that state laws banning males from female sports is lawful. the ruling directly addressed to consolidated cases, West Virginia v. BPJ and Little v. Heckox, which challenged sports restrictions in West Virginia and Idaho. So this is a win for female, athletes that have long argued they should not have to, compete against males. I have some audio here of one female athlete that has for a couple of years now spoken out about the issue. this is Peyton McNabb responding to, today's decision. Clip 12.

>> Jenna Ellis: I'm just feeling so blessed. Of course, this is something that means a lot to me. It, affected me personally. And, you know, there's a lot of eyes on this across the country. There's families, there's parents, and there's coaches and daughters who are watching this decision being made. And I'm just so thankful that they get to understand that they are protected and it's okay for their state to protect them, because, I mean, that's all it was. All that they were having to determine is if it was okay if states could protect their girls or if it was allowed. So I'm thankful that, states are able to protect their girls. Of course, they shouldn't have been put in that position to begin with. But, again, you know, this. This really does help the Supreme Court, because to me, if they wouldn't have ruled this way, they would have lost all credibility. So I'm very thankful it went this way.

>> Tim Wildmon: It was a 6, 3 decision in favor of allowing states to forbid males from competing against females in athletic competition. Now, with that, of course you could say the reverse is true. Although I don't know any example of that happening, where girls say, I, ah, demand to compete against males.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: In athletics. You don't see it that way. But, but go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I've seen one case.

>> Tim Wildmon: Have you really?

>> Wesley Wildmon: It was in California. They were, they were. A girl was absolutely committed to playing baseball.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They didn't let her part. It was park and wreck. But they said, nope, we're not.

>> Tim Wildmon: Usually they let girls play boys and little league, you know, until they can't compete anymore. I've seen, it was literally this.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And no, thanks, but no thanks, man.

>> Tim Wildmon: GW yeah, girl. So we separate about, yeah, male, female.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But yeah, I have seen that, but there have been. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, the main thing is here, now this doesn't mean that, transgendered people are forbidden altogether from competing against, girls, male, you know, males who say, hey, I'm sign me up for the girls team. it only means that states can pass laws protecting girl sports. So in some places in the country that are, wackadoodle, liberal, like California, California or even, you know, some parts of the, maybe the Northeast, they may allow for dudes to, you know, dunk on girls. But but, but anyway, 90%, 99, probably 95% of the country, even Democrat places are going to go with common sense on this one and protect girls athletes, athletics. Also, you got to remember in this, when, when you talk about competition, athletic competition, this also means being on the team so that you get access to the showers, you get access to the changing rooms, the bathrooms, the buses, the hotel rooms, whatever the case may be. So you can have, you know, girls being forced to bunk with, shower with it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean that's, that's whether they wanted it or not. They were the ones, the girls were the ones who were told to adjust your attitude.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right? And these are the people who are supposedly pro girls, pro women. That's what the liberals have always claimed, right? That they're the party of, this movement.

>> Chris Woodward: They're the reason Battle 9 exists. And here we are 50 plus years later and they want to ignore it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

The Supreme Court struck down President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship

All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio 6 to 3. I would hope that would have been 9 to 0 by the Supreme Court. Again, we're talking about, decisions that were, of court cases that were brought before the Supreme Court in January or February and then they announced their decisions all in a week. Yeah, three or four days usually. So, what else happened at the Supreme Court?

>> Chris Woodward: All right, this is the big one and will continue to probably be the lead story for the next few hours, if not the rest of the day. in another 6 to 3 ruling, the Supreme Court struck down President Trump's executive order that sought to limit or end birthright citizenship. This is the case called Trump v. Barbara. This is the case that Trump went to the Supreme Court for the oral argument. Remember that? Several months ago.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, now let me hang on one second. Okay, I mean to interrupt, but you said six, three. I'm looking at a NewSong York Post story that says 5, 4.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hold on just a minute. I think we're, we're going to confuse listeners. I said maybe. He said. I, I said it was a 6 to 3 decision, in favor of allowing states to protect girls, sports and. Yeah, okay, so we switch from that topic to what Krish told me. And you're saying what now?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I'm just looking at a NewSong York Post story. We're all catching up here. because this is just released.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: He said six, three. I'm looking at a NewSong York Post story that says the birthright citizenship ruling was five, four.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay, I've. It was either five, four or six, three. Because I do see other news outlets. There is one vote difference.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we're trusting you as our newsman to get it accurate. And I'm not sure what to

>> Chris Woodward: tell you because the, some news outlets do have six to three. I'll double check. As for the ruling itself, this is the, Trump v. Barbara case and the court reaffirmed the century old constitutional understanding or interpretation of that. Nearly all individuals born on American soil are automatically US Citizens regardless of their parents immigration status. So this is a quote, loss, for the president and his administration.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know why they keep saying the pre. I know you're not saying this, Chris, but they keep saying a loss for the president. I mean the president may have. Yes, he was the one who instituted the executive order. But this is a loss for the country if. Well, I know how the liberals want to frame it. They want to frame it as a loss for Trump because of his anti immigration policies. But. And when I say loss for the country. Wesley, here's what I'm saying. And I don't know that any of us know the answer to this question I'm about to pose. I could see if you Do I know, you were going to take your bar exam.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: But it just. It was just last night didn't work out for you.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I was just reading.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: One at a time.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So he's. He's going to take his bar exam and then.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And then following in his dad's footsteps.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what I was about to say. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: I was going to be a lawyer. I thought about it for a while and I thought, do I really want to read books my whole life?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying? Like long legalese books and, and go to Charlie.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Then you said that was too easy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah. So that's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Compared to his career, that's really not a challenge. Building rockets.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I've got, I'm multi dimensional. I don't like to talk about it much because it sounded like I'm bragging.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: What is it? A Jack.

>> Tim Wildmon: Here's my Jack of all trades. Master of none. Here's my point on this. my question unto thee, and see if you can answer it. All right. Birthright citizenship means that anybody born in the United States or I guess on our territories. I don't know about that, but at least the United States, by just being born here, has, U.S. citizenship.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right, right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because that's what that means. Right. Here's my question that we may not know the answer to. And Jenna Ellis will be on with us at the bottom of the hour.

If baby born to illegal parents becomes U.S. citizen, mother could be subject to deportation

Okay, let's, let's. If, if that's true, does this mean that the mother of the baby also becomes a US Citizen upon the birth of the child? Oh, no. Is that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no, but that's. Go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, it does not. My understanding that. No, it does not make the mother a citizen, but it, but it forces the issue of what, what do you do with the mother there, then. Or, thereof. So then. And, and they're in the United. The mother's still in the United States illegally. So then, therefore, you were theoretically subject to deportation. Subject to deportation. But the baby can't be deported under this law because it's a citizen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So they're going to claim. They being the people who don't believe in borders, who don't believe in immigration enforcement. And they are going to say, if you were to say the mother must be deported, because she's here illegally and came here illegally, they're going to say, see there, you're separating the mother from the child. How cruel is that? Is that what you're going to get.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And that's why they call them anchor babies. I know some people may say, well, it's ugly to talk about human beings that way. It's just a term to explain what's happening, that if the baby that is born in the United States to illegal parents or the mother. Okay. Becomes an American citizen, then procedurally that baby becomes an anchor that locks the mother here in the States. And you can't deport, her without deporting the baby, but you can't deport the baby because you're not allowed to deport American citizens to another country. Furthermore, if they are not a citizen of the United States, they would say, well, then what is the baby a citizen of?

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, this is, this is going to become a cottage industry.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, it already is.

>> Tim Wildmon: If it already isn't.

>> Chris Woodward: According to President Trump and people that 250,000 a year.

>> Tim Wildmon: What a shrewd way to beat the system.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: If you want to come into the US now, people might say, you think people really get pregnant just to come into, Yeah. This has been, like we've said here, going on for a long time, where somebody gets. A woman gets pregnant and she knows if she can make it into the US Then you have an anchor or

>> Ed Vitagliano: to the country they can get. If they get across, let's say a couple from Ecuador crosses the border illegally and they're here for five years. Okay. Nobody knows where they are or whatever. And they have two kids here. Those kids become U.S. citizens. I think the solution, should that be? No, I don't think so. And what the Supreme Court has said is President Trump can't make this decision with an executive order.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You've got to agree with that tuition. You got to amend the Constitution, because I think the Supreme Court has erroneously interpreted the 14th Amendment and expanded it to include children born to illegals. I think what you're going to have to do is amend the Constitution or pass a federal law, which is impossible in today's political climate because you can't get the votes. You're going to have to say, children who are born here are the, nationality of their parents or the mother. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me just be clear. I, do appreciate the effort on the part of the President, United States, Trump, to do something about this, to stop, the exploitation of our laws, really, with regard to immigration. But at the same time, I do agree that we need something stronger than an executive order.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: On something as serious as this matter, we need legislation passed. Although, as you've said in this Political climate, which is so divisive. And, you know, you're basically a 50, 50 split in Washington, D.C. democrat, Republican. I don't know that anything's going to happen on this anytime soon. Go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And a lot of career politicians, too, that don't. That don't want to do either. They just want paychecks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You could. I mean, there are ways to kind of circumvent this. If now they all require a congressional approval, a law. And again, I don't think you can get this. You could say, well, from now on, the United States is not allowing dual citizenship. So if you're from Guatemala and you come to this country and you have a baby, and then there is, an effort to grant amnesty to the parents of that baby, make them US Citizens, you say, fine, if you're going to be a U.S. citizen, you have to renounce your citizenship in Guatemala. Yeah. Now, Guatemala is not going to let you back in because you're not a citizen. I mean, there are ways you can maybe trim some of the effect, but overall, this is a bad. I think this is a bad ruling. We, once again, Jon. Chief Justice Jon Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett, have ruled with the liberals, the wackadoodles, the wacky leftists on the Supreme Court, the three that are remaining who wouldn't even vote against men playing with, you know, in women's sports, Roberts and Barrett siding with them again. And they're both a real problem for those who believe in the Constitution and the actual meaning of the words in it.

>> Tim Wildmon: We will ask, Jenna more about this in a few minutes. Jenna Ellis, she is a constitutional attorney.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The only thing that I would add to what we've already said is that if anybody in any other country or anybody in the United States travels to any other country and they were to have a baby while they're traveling, they would all the.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're not going to become a citizen.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Become a. They don't become an African. They don't become a,

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, no, I know. I don't know anywhere else in the world where, if you're Chinese, maybe they exist.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. I know for a fact. If you are, let's say, an American in Australia and you have a child, that baby is not automatically Australian.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. but anyway, the Supreme Court has ruled.

Ed Bennett: President Trump may come out with something differently after Supreme Court ruling

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, it will be interesting. I think Ed is onto something here where he said they could try to do something differently. I mean, because the State Department is executive branch, so they could set some sort of policy going forward, and it wouldn't be out of the realm of, possibility, for this president, to try to come up with something, after being told the Supreme Court by the Supreme Court. You can't do that. Because, remember when the U.S. supreme Court struck down Joe Biden's effort to do some student loan relief? And I'm using air quotes, Biden responded to that. And I brought up his tweet. We aired the sound bite, I put it in stories. But Biden responded to the Supreme Court telling him no, he came out with another policy. And he said publicly things like, quote, the Supreme Court tried to block me, but they didn't stop me. So Trump may come out with something, as a result of this. We shall see.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And overall, this is becoming a problem for our republic. And by this, I mean the executive orders. We have a dysfunctional Congress that refuses to do its constitutional duties. They create agencies and then abdicate their responsibility, give power to all these agencies, and then they cannot agree to pass any laws. We have this bloated, you know, continuing resolutions all the time. They're not doing their job. And so presidents are left, reaching,

>> Wesley Wildmon: doing what they can, doing what they

>> Ed Vitagliano: can with these executive orders. And then you have Supreme Court rulings that say, no, that's unconstitutional. And then they say, okay, I'll just write a different, executive order. And then you got to go through the whole process again. And our system is breaking down because they're not following the constitution. In Washington, D.C. congress, if they want something done, they ought to pass laws and not create agencies to do it for them. And that's just one of the many problems we've got going on in the nation's capital.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I agree. But we need to remember Trump has set records, though, on the most executive orders.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's not a good record, but he's about setting records. And he set one for sure.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because presidents are left with no other alternative.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's tongue in cheek.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you remember when President Obama said, I got. I'm tired of being blocked. Legislation being blocked, So I got a pen and a phone. Yeah. What he meant was, I'm going to do executive orders. so he was kind of warning. And that tradition continued with President Trump and Biden and now President Trump again. So, right now we have a 50. 50. We do have a dysfunctional.

>>  : Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Federal, government system. but we have a 50, 50 split, basically in D.C. blue, red, Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal, and some in between. Whatever you want to say. So. All right, well, those are the decisions by the United States supreme court. One good one, one bad, one way we view it, right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: One good one, one bad one in terms of decisions. Alright, Jenna Ellis will be with us momentarily. More to talk about, more topics to discuss right here on, Today's Issues. Stay with us.

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Tim Wildman: We are going to Italy and Greece in 2027

>> Tim Wildmon: Tim Wildmon, president of American Family association and American Family Radio. We are going to Italy in March of 2027. We're also going to Greece in March of 2027. And we're doing those tours back to back. If you want to do both of them in Italy, we'll be going to Venice, ride the gondola, and see all the sites there. And we'll go to Pisa and walk on the leaning tower of if you fall off, we're not responsible. Also, we're going to Rome and see the Sistine Chapel and the Coliseum and all the catacombs or see all the sites of Rome and in Greece. It's the Footsteps of Paul trip. So the places where Paul went in the Bible mentioned in Greece. If you want information on any of these tours, go to tours.afa.net tours.afa.net tours.aca.net

>> Jenna Ellis: Then Jesus declared, I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. Jon 6:35.

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Terry Jackson returns to American Family Radio Network on June 30, 2026

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back everybody to the radio program. Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. in case you lost track of days, today's Tuesday, June 30, 2026. Tim, Ed, Wesley, and Krish. Fred Jackson still works here, but he's, been away a while.

>> Chris Woodward: If the Lord. Terri's Fred will be in tomorrow.

>> Tim Wildmon: What if he doesn't, Terri?

>> Chris Woodward: And we won't have to worry about it. We'll all be with Jesus.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I'm looking forward to that.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I'll be working for the Good News Network, bringing only good news on this show in glory.

Terry: When does it start going to shorter days versus long? When

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, a little changing subjects here. When. When does it start going to shorter days versus long?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Sorry. It started.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It already did.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. I think the 21st. Whenever. Okay, summer started, that's the longest day of the year. So now we are cruising towards the shortest day of the year, which is December 21st.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's if winter tarries.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying?

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's it. If winter, Terri.

>> Tim Wildmon: Winter Terries. I don't want to talk about that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: What?

>> Tim Wildmon: You're talking about the decline in day length because, I like long days.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, I asked because I was hoping that we hadn't gotten there yet, and then I realized we've already gotten there, so I wish I hadn't asked.

>> Tim Wildmon: We have peaked.

>> Wesley Wildmon: This is the peak part.

>> Tim Wildmon: We have peaked in terms of the, length of days the sun is up, so to speak, in the. Whatever hemisphere we're in today.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, Northern hemisphere. Yeah, that one.

>> Tim Wildmon: And so, it. But it's a decline that will get to the shortest day in December. True. It's six.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it's true. And I just want to say that I peaked a long time ago, and I've been on a slow process of decline ever since. I'm not sure what that day was,

>> Tim Wildmon: but I agree with you. But, you know, it happens to us all.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it does.

>> Tim Wildmon: Eventually.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: You think I peaked?

>> Ed Vitagliano: You peaked, brother.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know I love you.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Picked a long time ago.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We're in the category of peaked a long time ago.

>> Tim Wildmon: You bring in the truth to me.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm bringing the truth. Cold hard truth.

Jenna Ellis says she has not peaked yet

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But someone who has not peaked yet and is still in her most productive stage, prime time, prime time, is Jenna Ellis, host of, Jenna Ellis in the Morning, heard weekdays at 7:00am central time on AFR and host of the on demand podcast [email protected]. so this is peak Jenna Ellis that we got going on. Good morning, Jenna.

>> Jenna Ellis: Good morning. I'm reminded of, how many of the guys got in trouble for Talking about Nikki Haley, not being in her prime and peaking. So I'm glad that you're saying that I am still in my prime. And, yes, have not even. I have not yet begun to peak. That should go on my resume.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And now who.

>>  : That.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I forgot all about that. Who was that saying that about Nikki Haley? I. I now remember that Trump called her bird.

>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Trump called her bird brain over and over again.

>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: but you could still be at peak bird brain status. Yeah, there were several that said she had peaked. Right. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, yeah, m. There was.

>> Jenna Ellis: There.

>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah.

>> Jenna Ellis: I forget. It was somebody who wasn't Trump, obviously, so nobody cared. But we remember what Trump says.

>> Tim Wildmon: Bird brain peaked. I don't know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, that's.

>> Tim Wildmon: I. I got it does sound like a novel, doesn't it?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Bird brain peak.

>> Tim Wildmon: The bird brain peaked. You know, like.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Sounds more like a novel than a country. So.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Like a Robert Ludlum.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Novel or something.

Don Lemon said that about Nikki Haley when she was running for president

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, Jenna, this was Don Lemon.

>> Jenna Ellis: I just Googled it. It was done. It wasn't even a candidate. It was done. So, no. No wonder nobody remembered that. But Don Lemon said that about, the presidential candidate when Nikki Haley was running is past her prime and fundamentally disregards.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah, he got hammered for that, by the way. Tucker would pronounce it as Don Lamont.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Don Lamont.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

The Supreme Court struck down President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Jenna, we want to ask you a question, if you know the. Well, I've already been answered by the panel here, but I want to ask you this. Re it the, birthright citizenship case. It was announced today by the Supreme Court ruling on President Trump's executive, order, which banned it, basically. that is birthright citizenship. Where, So what is the situation there? Does the. Now, does the, M. Mother of the child who's born in the US who, So de facto becomes a, Well, I don't know if de facto is the word in essence or in reality becomes a US Citizen upon birth. does that also include the mother in the citizenship?

>> Jenna Ellis: Not directly, but, you know, we've had the anchor baby question for years that, if you are the mother of or the father, or relative even, but generally mother or father of a US Citizen, you can apply for naturalization and potentially citizenship through pathways, through the K class of visas. And so this decision, though, was a major defeat, even worse than a lot of conservatives were predicting. the hope was that, at worst, the Supreme Court would strike down President Trump's authority through executive order to define this, and Congress would have to go back and do that. And we've all been very disappointed in how Congress, particularly the Republicans, don't want to govern. But actually, Governor Ron DeSantis just posted this, and I think it's a brilliant explanation. simple explanation. He says, this was not a decision on procedural grounds. That is, the president can't do this through executive order, but Congress could legislate it. It is a substantive decision that says the 14th Amendment requires citizenship for those born to, among others, birth tourists or those unlawfully present in the country. We will need either a constitutional amendment or a future court to overrule this. Any way you slice it, this is a major defeat.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow, I didn't know that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, can I just ask you. I had a friend who texted me as we were talking about this before the break. He texted me this. So I want to toss this to you because I see his point. Okay. He said, I've been taught all my life that anyone born in the US Is a citizen. And I would say before. Yeah, before. Before the illegal immigrant issue became a real hot button topic in politics. If you had asked me that, like, 15 years ago, 20 years ago, whatever, that's what I would have said. I would have said, if you're born in the US you become a US Citizen. Okay, so, Supreme Court said the same thing. Yeah, the Supreme Court's basically saying the same thing. Why is this a loss? Jenna, now, I technically know the answer, but just explain. Why is this a loss? Are we saying that? We did say this in the previous segment. We. Are. We worried this is going to become a cottage industry. In other words, taking advantage of that fact. So go ahead and run with that, if you would.

>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah, it already. I mean, we've seen, the. We've seen the reports of how many Chinese nationals who are antithetical to America, they're hostile to America, send pregnant women here on tourist visas simply to have their children as American citizens, and then they go back to China to be, schooled and indoctrinated there. But they have U.S. citizenship. So this isn't just about illegals entering the country, staying here, overstaying. That's a huge problem. But birth tourism is already a huge problem. And the reason that this has become an issue, and it has been an issue even since, the inception of the 14th Amendment, which was during the Reconstruction period after the Civil War. This is why we're talking about this issue constitutionally. The 14th Amendment guarantees citizenship to persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And that phrase has become the question and the battleground for what actually defines citizenship. It's not just that you're born here, it's that you're subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And how the majority interpreted that was simply, you're born here, and therefore you automatically already are subject to the jurisdiction. But what Justice Thomas brilliantly said in his dissent was that that meant something else. In the Reconstruction era, they were talking specifically about black slaves who, of course, lived here. They fought in the Civil War, they bled, you know, many of them died, in defense of the United States. They weren't allegiant to any other country. They were in a completely different posture in subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, having been born here, lived their entire lives here, but not being granted the privileges and immunities of being full citizens. And that was why the 14th amendment was so important, to the Reconstruction era, to ratify so that black Americans wouldn't be considered second class. It was never meant to. So that a Chinese woman who's pregnant could come over, have her baby here, still subject, obviously, to the jurisdiction of the Chinese Communist Party, and then go back with her baby and then have basically the privileges of possibly applying herself for citizenship through that child. It was never meant for illegals who come over who, who cross our border illegally and then have children so that they can get citizenship. That's become a loophole, and it's a completely free false version of the 14th Amendment's history. And that phrase, subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And so the. The Supreme Court majority absolutely got it wrong. And. And as Governor DeSantis recognized, it's a substantive decision on the language of the 14th Amendment. It's not just saying that Congress needs to determine where, citizenship applies. They're interpreting the actual language. And so it's going to take a constitutional amendment or a future court to overturn it. That is a rule really, really bad thing for the future of this country. So it's not just that you're born here, it's that you're actually American when you live here, you're subject to the jurisdiction, and you are a full American, having been here lawfully, your parents lawfully. so this is why it's such a wrong decision.

>> Tim Wildmon: But it was a good decision on the transgendered, in sports, issue. Right?

>> Jenna Ellis: Yes. that was one of the few that the Supreme Court got right this term, saying that they upheld those provisions, that the equal protection, clause does not mandate that, men can then go into women's sports. it allows for separate, separating the sexes in terms of sports. So that was a good decision. overall. Overall for sports.

Tim Noah: Amy Coney Barrett has been a huge disappointment for conservatives

>> Ed Vitagliano: Can I ask you a question here, a little bit of an unfair question because you may not know the answer to it. What is the deal with Amy Coney Barrett? Now Jon Roberts seems like he was a lost cause a long time ago, but Amy Coney Barrett has been a huge disappointment over and over and over again. And she and Jon Roberts ruled with the, whack job minority, the leftists on the Supreme Court. And I just don't, I had high hopes for her. I'm just going to be honest.

>> Tim Wildmon: Would they been dashed? Have they been dashed?

>> Ed Vitagliano: they, they've been dashed, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Or at least sliced and diced. She does come up with good rulings sometimes.

>> Jenna Ellis: But overall, I agree.

>> Chris Woodward: She, she.

>> Jenna Ellis: The thing that, the thing about her and I was working for President Trump at the time of this nomination and privately, there were a lot of people, a lot of conservatives, people whose names you would know of really good organizations who were very concerned about her history and did not support her to the President. And yet he took, his appointments largely from Leonard Leo and the Federalist Society, who in my opinion failed to fully vet, these, you know, FedSoc appointees and did not, nominate and recommend to the president for nomination, justices in the mold of, ah, Thomas and Alito, but rather, especially in the case of Amy Coney Barrett, she was the DEI hire of the right because they were much more concerned at the time about appointing a woman, than they were about anything else. And this was a terrible appointment. And I'm just, and I've said this publicly before, I personally called President Trump and I told him my concerns. I articulated the concerns of some of our friends and said this is not going to be a good pick. This was predictable. Based on her history and some of her prior rulings, we knew this. There were just a lot of conservatives, even well meaning ones, who were very taken in by all the propaganda around her. And but it was unfortunately predictable.

NPR reported that Justice Alito was retiring, then retracted the story

>> Tim Wildmon: There's that, by the way, there's breaking news and unbreaking news and breaking news. regarding, Samuel Leto.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, Krish?

>> Tim Wildmon: What's that about?

>> Chris Woodward: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's a Supreme Court justice.

>> Chris Woodward: He sure is. Yeah. nominated by President, George W. Bush. so NPR has retracted this story, but earlier this morning, just before Jenna joined us, NPR reported that Justice Alito was retiring. They have since pulled that story. That is the headline of many other news outlets at the Moment. What are you hearing, if anything, about Justice Alito?

>> Jenna Ellis: I have not heard anything, that has been substantiated that he is retiring. And so there have been. So Bill Malusian of Fox News, states that NPR reported Justice Leo's retiring, then retracted it 10 minutes later, saying it was published in error. So, this is, this is interesting that npr, you know, this isn't just kind of a rumor circulating on big accounts on X that aren't held responsible. So, maybe NPR was thinking he might, and then accidentally, somebody accidentally hit the send button. but there's been no confirmation. And hopefully, Alito is not retiring. He and Thomas are really the only thing.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Jenna Ellis: The only good justices left.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. There will be a memo of understanding, at NPR today about this situation.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Jenna Ellis: They'll fire the intern who clicked the button, who clicked. What do you got?

>> Tim Wildmon: Coming up tomorrow on Jenna Ellis in the Morning.

>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah, so we're going to be, breaking down this whole birthright citizenship case this morning. Of course, before the case came out, we went substantively through a couple of the other cases, including election integrity, Trump's ability, as the federal executive, to hire and fire, some of those issues. But we're going to be, delving into the birthright citizenship case and also what that means politically. So, more on that. But then coming up later in the week, we're also going to be Talking about America 250 and kind of where we've been and how we got off track constitutionally. Kind of the bigger picture. So that's our plan, for Thursday and Friday. So, it's going to be a good week.

>> Tim Wildmon: You had Ben Carson on, right?

>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah, I did last Friday. It was a great interview. He stayed for the full show.

>> Tim Wildmon: We like, I mean, I love Ben Carson and listening to him talk, but he just gets so wound up. It's just almost like, dude, it's embarrassing.

>> Jenna Ellis: I had to tell him to calm down a few times.

>> Tim Wildmon: Take a chill pill, man.

>> Chris Woodward: Down to six, seven Red Bulls.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he just. Wow. I just, you know, other than that, he's, you know, I like listening to his content, but, man, huh?

>> Ed Vitagliano: yeah, he's. He's a wild man. I think that was his nickname in college, Ben Wildmon.

>> Jenna Ellis: Can you imagine his. His X feed? If he had been president, that would have been off the hook.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, social media, hard.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Jenna. Take care.

>> Jenna Ellis: Thanks, guys. Happy America's birthday.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.

Beginning July 1, Arkansas will ban junk food for those on food stamps

All right. Happy America 250th. I'm Tim with Ed and Krish and Wesley. Pardon me. We thank you for listening to the program today. so next topic. Krish.

>> Chris Woodward: Alright. In the great state of Arkansas, beginning July 1, if you are on food stamps or the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, you will no longer be able to get junk food things like sodas or pops or Cokes, depending on how you might fall on that debate.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'll tell you the junk food, that's relative.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: You also can't get candy bars and stuff like that. Now the. Wait a second.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What do you mean?

>> Tim Wildmon: I said telling me junk food is forbidden. I said I don't live in Arkansas, but if I did, I would just argue that the definition of junk food is relative.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I see. Is it tacos? Is that junk food?

>> Tim Wildmon: Do they have a list of banned products here?

>> Chris Woodward: It's sugary, foods. It's sodas and candy bars.

>> Tim Wildmon: Anything that tastes good.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, pretty much flavor.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, why are you bringing this topic up?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, because Arkansas wants to restrict people, from being able to get these things if they are on taxpayer funded food stamps or SNAP benefits.

>> Ed Vitagliano: because it's supposed to be to help with basic nutrition.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So people don't starve.

>> Chris Woodward: And somebody saying as much is none other than Governor, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who had this to say about all this.

>> Jenna Ellis: Clip 7 There was an activist on Capitol Hill last week who suggested people needed sugary soft drinks to survive. Other groups have sued and gotten a handful of other states enjoined in court. We won't wait around while our people get less and less healthy and we spend more and more taxpayer dollars trying to fix the problem. America faces a chronic disease epidemic, obesity, diabetes, heart disease.

>> Chris Woodward: So again, all this stuff's going to be restricted starting July 1st. There's probably going to be some lawsuits.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's different between that and what Myshel Obama tried to do?

>> Chris Woodward: That's a good question. M. first, what do you mean? Well, she tried to change foods in school.

>> Tim Wildmon: No Cokes in the cafeteria.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I said, well, yeah, that's the food that's provided for children in school that kids pay for.

>> Tim Wildmon: She was trying to make them healthy. Yeah, but I know a lot of conservatives objected to her trying to intervene in schools to do that. listen, I, I agree and disagree. Okay, I agree, but I know, I agree with what the governor is saying there. Sarah. Sanders. Sanders. Huckabee Sanders. I should say I agree with what she's saying there. and she's, it's, she's practice, she's putting sugary foods which leads to obesity and unhealthiness. Is the, scientific link here?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: In the same category of tobacco and alcohol. In other words, if you're going to stake state money to buy the necessities of life like groceries, you can't spend it on things that are not necessary.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Is that I'm going to, I'm going to disagree. I'm going to disagree.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're going to go, you're pro Snickers bar.

>> Ed Vitagliano: well, not pro Snickers bar, but, but here's, here's my disagreement. Okay, I understand the rationale behind this. I think once you've made the decision that people under whom, earn under a certain amount of money are going to be helped by the state government, you know, or even the federal government with supplementing nutritional needs. I don't like the government now telling parents what they should buy. Now if a parent is, I'm frankly irresponsible enough to buy their kids a lot of sugary products, that, to me, that's on them. And the problem, the practical problem is there is sugar in tons of food. Yeah, tons of food. Have you ever looked at how much sugar is in ketchup and how much sodium is in ketchup? It's a lot. And so I think if the government is going to start telling you, okay, Snickers bars are out. What if they say ketchup's out? Because that's not good for your kids either. I don't like nanny state activities.

>> Tim Wildmon: But what about the tobacco, alcohol, prohibition? You're, you're in favor of that one?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, those, those are, There is no nutritional value in a cigarette or beer, Cigarettes or beer. There is nutritional value. We may not like it in a Snickers bar.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. but a Snickers bar is not poison is what I'm saying. If you have, if you allow your kids a Snicker bar once a week, it's, that's not a problem if you're feeding them correctly the rest of the week.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know what this, I don't know exactly what this legislation calls for.

>> Chris Woodward: It calls for you cannot buy soda,

>> Tim Wildmon: you cannot buy candy bars if you're on food stamps.

>> Chris Woodward: Correct.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You can't use the food stamps. What we used to call food stamps, it's Snap. You can't, you can't use snap to buy these products.

>> Chris Woodward: Now I will tell you that in this case, Arkansans, people that are working and paying taxes, they're actually getting hit twice over this because they're working and they're paying for somebody to be able to buy junk food with their SNAP card. And then those people also are funding things like Medicare and Medicaid, which go to SNAP beneficiaries because they meet that same income threshold level.

The official name of SNAP is Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program

So you're paying for the health care of these people at the same time that you're paying for them to buy the junk food?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're telling me that the word snap. What is snap?

>> Chris Woodward: Short for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

>> Tim Wildmon: that snap, that word has replaced what we always call food stamps.

>> Chris Woodward: People still use food stamps, but the official name has changed.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

Bucky's is expanding across the country, according to Chris

All right. You're listening to today's issues on afr and I'm Tim with Ed and Fred and Wesley. Fred. Well, Fred's not here. Excuse me. Krish. Yes, Krish. Krish. you got about a minute left. You got any good news, Krish?

>> Chris Woodward: I do.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: let us have it, man.

>> Chris Woodward: I mean, like, let's do this. If you are, in Arizona and you have long wanted a buc EE's, your wish is becoming.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Bucky's is expanding. But I did, I read 15 new stores across the country. This is a Texas.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Texas origin.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: origin story.

>> Chris Woodward: They're also keeping billboard sellers, employed because you can't go anywhere in Texas without seeing a billboard.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Do you know how many, how many BUC EE's exist now?

>> Chris Woodward: I'm looking it up.

>> Ed Vitagliano: so I, I think that they're, they're planning to expand, across the country. And these things are huge, these stores.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, you've been the one down.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I've been to a couple.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, they're just m. Monstrous. I don't particularly like going to them because they are always super crowded.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But they're, they have really good food.

>> Tim Wildmon: The fun of it is people watching.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you get to do that.

>> Chris Woodward: There are at least 56 BUC EE's in these United States of America.

>> Ed Vitagliano: 56?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow.

>> Chris Woodward: We just got one in Mississippi down on the coast. It's our first one, but there's probably going to be more.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But they, each store employs like

>> Chris Woodward: 200 people and they're all very high paying jobs.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I tell you what, they got some of the best brisket sandwiches.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, they know. You're right about that.

>> Chris Woodward: Beaver nuggets if you haven't had them.

>> Ed Vitagliano: their food is magnificent.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And their restrooms are spotless. Have you noticed this?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. They have people who are, cleaning up kind of as you go. I don't mean go to the bathroom. I mean, there are people cleaning up every 24 hours.

>> Chris Woodward: I saw more people at the Orange Beach Buc EE's than I have in the Birmingham International Airport. Yeah, that's how many people go to a Buc EE's.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back momentarily.

>> Jenna Ellis: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.