>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. And, today again is Monday, August 3rd. I'm Tim here with Ed. And now Steve Paisley. Georgia joins us. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Have a good weekend?
>> Steve Jordahl: It was a good weekend. Yeah. I was on Praise Team. My wife and I, we both, sang at church.
>> Tim Wildmon: What was the sermon on?
>> Steve Jordahl: We are going over, the Book of Mark. I took notes, actually.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a generalization.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, all right, Tim. What was our church sermon about yesterday?
>> Tim Wildmon: I was absent. Sorry. I walked right into that one, wasn't I? I had nothing to report on because I was violating one of the ten commandments there, I think. Go ahead, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: I took notes. I actually wrote down notes. but I don't remember trying to remember, what the points were. Listen, give me enough time and I'll think about it. I know, I know, but I'm just
>> Ed Vitagliano: making feel a little bit better.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't feel bad because I just proved that he. I was paying attention. He was trying to get what I was.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I can remember when Brother Don, the founder of this ministry, asked me when I was pastoring. Oh, no, he was doing devotion. He said, ed, would you preach on yesterday? And I could not, for the life of me being put on the spot, remember what I had, ah, preached 24 hours before.
>> Steve Jordahl: I have to, brag on Krish, because he has some kind of a photographic memory. I will not remember what I reported on the day before. If you asked me what Friday, what my stories were.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Steve Jordahl: No clue. Krish. He told me today, in fact, we were talking about something I. A story I wanted to do. I was going to propose. and, I talked about it at our store meeting. It's about the athletes whose faith is actually grounded in scripture. And they're more than just, you know, thank some generic God. They really have some depth.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Man upstairs.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right. But, today's athletes really have to depth. And if we want to, I can get into what one of them said. But I suggested this story and he said, you already did it. I said, what? And I looked it up and he was right. And it was six months ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow.
>> Steve Jordahl: But he remembered.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He does have that kind of memory.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know what I think about that? I have a theory.
>> Ed Vitagliano: About photographic memory?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, no, about sermons and.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because, when I read the scripture, which I tried to do every day. Right. but I can't tell you exactly what I read on 10 days ago.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I think if you study the Bible, okay. And you go and listen to sermons at church, it all goes down into your spiritual soul. Okay. And affects you, even if you can't recall what you heard exactly.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: As long as you're. Does that make sense?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think that's probably accurate. I mean, it's like I can't remember what I had for lunch a year ago, but it helped me that day.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, and. And what you eat helps you, whether you can remember it or not. It's nutrition.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right? Amen.
Alan Simpson: Pastor Allen Simpson preached on women in the ministry
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Preached on First Timothy. I have it up now. we finished. Mark. This is First Timothy, chapter two, verses one to eight.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's about women in the ministry.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, okay. I. And my.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, let's move. No, no, no, no.
>> Fred Jackson: Let me.
>> Steve Jordahl: I. And now that you're have reminded me, my pastor gave you a doubt. No, no, no, no, no. I have to say this. My pastor's name is Pastor Allen Simpson. not Allie Allen, A L, L E Simpson. And Allen. Pastor Allen is the Southern Baptist pastor, and he is one that preaches the entire council of Scripture. The hard passages, the. The easy passages. If there are such a thing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If he's going through a book, you mean?
>> Steve Jordahl: Or just if it's called for by, what's going on in culture.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, good for him.
>> Steve Jordahl: He is brave. And I want to shout out to Pastor Allen because he preached on, women in, in. In church and. And Paul's instructions to women about not teaching and everything.
>> Tim Wildmon: Get out and shut up. Was that the message? Title of the message?
>> Steve Jordahl: No, it was the title of the message.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm sorry I brought this up.
>> Steve Jordahl: We probably need to move on. I look like you did. I'm glad you did, because I just want to credit my pastor, Pastor Allen, who is not afraid to go there. He's a man of God.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Preach. All the Bible is.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's a man of God.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, you know, some pastors go through. There are a few, few of them, but some of them go chapter by chapter. Don't they remember J. Vernon McGee?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was a legendary voice, legendary radio preacher. and he went, like, through the whole Bible.
>> Steve Jordahl: Jon MacArthur would do the same thing and would take years on a book.
Steve Martin: Democrats are being influenced by Democratic Socialists of America
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Steve, in case we haven't mentioned it on, this show yet, Democrats hate America. the Democrat party is being,
>> Tim Wildmon: not all of Them, but a lot of them. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And some in leadership. I'm going to play you a montage here. but, the Democrat Party is being influenced right now. We're talking about the Democratic Socialists of America who are pushing them as far left as they can go. But I'm going to play you a clip of some current and former Democrat leaders kind of not thinking that much of America. You're going to hear from, in this order, Andrew Cuomo, Myshel Obama, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Joy Reid, who's not a politician, but she's a former, ah, MSNBC host, Kamala Harris, Zoran Mamdani, Hillary Clinton, Ilhan Omar and rashida tlaib. Cut 12.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great.
>> Speaker E: For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country. Use the words America first. I don't like all the connotations of that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: There's nothing special about being American. None of you can define for me what an American is.
>> Speaker E: Nobody black I know is really excited about the 4th of July because it is a celebration of slaveholders. America has a long history of systemic racism.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We have a city where we are reckoning with the long history of racism.
>> Speaker E: Here you can put half of Trump's
>> Ed Vitagliano: supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables.
>> Speaker E: To have a democracy, a peacon of hope turned into one of the worst countries, political structures that I have to work in, that we are surrounded by, was built on slavery and genocide and rape and oppression. The dumbing of the United States has arrived.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Sure has. Yeah, we just heard a bunch of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Some of that was old, wasn't it?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. No, and the point being that this is not the hating of America or the running down of America is not new. And, they're not doing much to, try to push back.
>> Tim Wildmon: Democrats are, well, the far left. These, socialists and Democrat socialists that are running and winning in some cases, political office across the country, they do, they do have disdain for, I mean, fundamental disdain for this. They want to change the country radically and fundamentally because they don't believe in our system of government as it exists today. they've talked about getting rid of the Senate. They've talked about, going straight to the popular vote, ditching the M. Electoral College. They've talked about adding members to the
>> Ed Vitagliano: Supreme Court or getting rid of the Supreme Court and the presidency altogether.
>> Tim Wildmon: Altogether. So these are, they don't believe. Some of them don't believe in prisons or borders. I mean, these are advancing. these are, so the modern day. They do have, I would call it, disdain for our country's government, our way of governing. And, so, and you might ask,
>> Steve Jordahl: is it just, every so often these leaders that are making a lot of noise? I'm going to say no, because I want to play you something that Bill Maher said over the weekend. this will.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's a traditional liberal.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He is a traditional liberal, lifelong Democrat.
>> Steve Jordahl: And he says that his vote is now going because of these Democrat socialists. His vote is now, up for grabs in play. But listen to what he said Here
>> Fred Jackson: in cut 16, two Democratic congressmen released an open pledge they wanted their fellow Democratic members to sign. It said, we are capitalists, not socialist. We want safety, not lawlessness. We are proud, not ashamed of America. These should not be hard words for a congressional Democrat to sign onto. You know how many did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Eight.
>> Fred Jackson: Eight out of 212 guys, really, there's got to be an easier way to lose the swing state.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: So that is the current Congress he's talking about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that, that was part of a. I, that was part of his program, Bill Maher's program on Friday night. I, saw a nine minute clip this morning and he went on for the whole nine minutes and he came with receipts. He posted on screen what these Democratic Socialists of America have been saying and even quoted Gavin Newsom who said, I have no problem with what they're saying. I'll even campaign for them, which was stunning for the governor, of California and probably one of the top three most recognizable Democrats who, who will probably run, be running for the presidency in 2028.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, it's going to be interesting to see what plays out in November at the midterm elections, because traditionally, okay, let's take the current politics, that is the war in Iran and the price of groceries and oil and those things that are hurting President Trump and the Republican Party right now with a lot of voters, just take that out of the mix. Just say, okay, traditionally, whichever party is in the White House at the midterm, be it Democrat or Republican, the other party makes substantial gains in the, especially in the House of Representatives. so that's just how it's always been. So people are thinking, well, that's going to happen again this November. But we'll see. Because I say that because there's, yes, you have those, those factors I just mentioned, which would theoretically be harmful to the Republicans and in the midterms. But if the Democrats are going to put up These far left, far, far left wackadoodles, you know, then that could counter the negatives that the Republicans, enter in the fall with. And so it really makes it a toss up to see what will happen, and which way will the Democrat Party go? They haven't altogether sold out to these far left wackadoodles. You still, that's what I call them. You still have, you know, I want to know where does Barack Obama come down? Because, he is a, you know, he is a very liberal, but he's mainstream, Democrat party over the years.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right, right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so who's going to win out on the Democrat side? The people that Bill Maher says I can't vote for and that, James Carville, another Democrat strategist for the best
>> Ed Vitagliano: known for his Jon Fetterman.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. These are Democrats, and they're saying we can't support these people. And by these people, they're also very anti Israel and anti Semitic in many ways. And that's a hard pill for these, traditional Democrats to swallow.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I will, yeah, no, I'm just going to say you're saying that the midterms might be closer than expected because these DSA candidates are going to make the election about them, not about the Republicans.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
There is a Senate race in Michigan to be decided in the fall
>> Ed Vitagliano: Which is typical.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm saying that, yeah, there are competing forces.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's dynamic. It's got some different dynamics than we've seen in the past. But if you consider that who's going to vote is who's energized right now in the political campaign, who is it that's out because they're energized? It's the young vote. The DSA is appealing to the young people. And we're having. I'm going to be doing a story, today for America Family News, that, yes, Bill Maher can say what he wants and he's speaking for a lot of lifelong Democrats, but young people 18 to 25 who are voting don't care.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. The only thing I would say about. And you're right, this is a danger in terms of young people falling in love with this DSA message. I think part of the problem, though, is going to be these elections, are turn on turnout.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And if you've got older, more classical liberals on the Democratic side who stay home, that could make even the young vote, not enough.
>> Tim Wildmon: Didn't, didn't Bill Marsh say he would vote for J.D. vance over the current slate of Democrat candidates?
>> Steve Jordahl: I didn't watch.
>> Tim Wildmon: I thought I read that somewhere.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I watched it. He. He had J.D. vance on his program, I think a week or two ago. But Bill, Mars said that he would vote for, Good grief. who was the. No, the Alaska governor. The. The lady.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah. He said he would vote for Sarah Palin.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I just.
>> Steve Jordahl: But she's not running. But.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I know, but he said I would vote because he can't stand her. He said I would vote for her before I vote for one of these, these nut jobs. So that. That's it. Now I don't. He might have said the same thing about J.D. vance.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: well, so, so Joe Rota said
>> Steve Jordahl: he might vote for Vance.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who did?
>> Steve Jordahl: Joe Rogan.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Well, that wouldn't surprise me, but this
>> Ed Vitagliano: was part of what. I hate to keep quoting Bill Maher. I just, am just very interested in this kind of classical liberals splitting with the socialists. But he said kind of exactly what you're saying, Tim. He said. And this was in the clip you played, do you want to lose swing states? You don't want to make this about the wackiness and the anti constitutional, nutty left.
>> Tim Wildmon: I tell you where that might play out. Michigan.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: There is a Senate race in Michigan to be decided in the fall. And Michigan's been a purple state, but has, on statewide elections, trends blue. Okay. And they have a Senate election. I'm talking about a Senate seat that will go to the Washington to represent the people of Michigan. And, and there's a good chance that the Republicans might win that.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is there not?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, there are three. Two Democrat candidates, who are in a primary tomorrow.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. Yeah. by the way, J.D. vance, Bill Maher said that he could vote for Vance under certain circumstances. And I don't believe that he was that detailed on what those circumstances were with regard to Michigan. there is, there are two Democrats. One Al said, Saeed is dsa, Very, very radical. The other is, not so radical. But she's coming. She's very liberal and coming across like the Saturday, Night Live character that lives in a river death van down by the river.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is this the one who. You played her voice?
>> Steve Jordahl: Haley Stevens. Haley Stevens.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You played her voice and she sounded like the. That's her Krish Farley character.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's her. And yeah, a lot of people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The, Senator, Gary Peters is retiring.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so this is an election that will pit Mike Rogers, the Republican who's already won, gone through his primary, for the Republicans, and then it's El Said against Haley Stevens tomorrow.
>> Steve Jordahl: Correct.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So this is going to be a big deal as to who is going to face the Republican Mike Rogers.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm just saying that the people are, the polling services are showing that he, he has a very good chance.
That Senate seat in Michigan is a flip. Yeah, there'll be a flip
I say very good. He has probably a 55, 45, 60, 40 chance to win.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: That Senate seat, in Michigan, which is a flip. Yeah, there'll be a flip.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think you're going to have a better idea once the primary is done because then you're going to have a one on one poll instead of one on two.
>> Tim Wildmon: And the reason he would win, yes, he, I'm sure he's a good candidate, but the reason he would win, they're saying is because the Democrat candidate is so far, far left that if El said independent voters in the state of Michigan can't vote for him.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
Sophie Cunningham is against biological males playing in women's sports
>> Tim Wildmon: so, anyway, by the way, I wanted to, before we get move on here, Sophie Cunningham.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: She is a player in the Women's national wnba. Wnba. She plays for. She played college ball in Missouri and then she plays pro ball for Indiana. The Indiana Fever.
>> Steve Jordahl: A teammate of Caitlin Clark.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, Caitlin Clark, that's right. That's their most famous player. But Sophie, Cunningham, she's well known. She is in the world of professional athletics. Anyway, was it last week she came out and just said listen, I, I am against biological males playing in women's sports. I believe in protecting young girls and shouldn't have. The boys shouldn't be in the locker room. I mean this is common sense. Right? We've all talked about this a thousand times because she was asked about it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And that was her response. And of course here goes the liberal media and the woke crowd just going after her, you know, in the media and on podcast and in the news and news and you know, commentators and she's standing firm. She did an event with somebody told me, did an appearance with Wriley Gaines.
>> Steve Jordahl: Wriley Gaines and one of her, the other person who found. Co founded the XXXY group that they formed went to one of her games and she stood time they held an event before the game that was not sponsored by the Indiana Pho because the Indiana Fever is decidedly woke. but they did have, they posed with her and she is not backing down from her stand.
>> Tim Wildmon: No. And this is kind of bizarre to say the least that this would even be controversial in the first place. I don't think it's controversial with the American people. I think the American people generally, Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, understand basic fairness in athletics, there's girl sports, there's guys sports, and everybody's known that since athletics started. Right? But now, she's taking Sophie Cunningham is getting the Wriley Gaines treatment. Right. But she's standing firm. And I don't know what all her beliefs are. Sophie Cunningham, I don't know, you know, all her beliefs. But on this particular issue, she's right. And she's bold and she's courageous. And here I would say this too, is that these people that say a position like Sophie Cunningham or Wriley Gaines holes, that is Separation of the sexes in sports, is somehow transphobic. That's transphobic. Well, you know what, first of all, if that's transphobic, if it were me, I'd say so be it. Call me whatever you want.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's a made up term anyway.
>> Tim Wildmon: Call me. Yeah, just call me. If you want to call me transphobic, go right ahead. I'm not. But if by that you mean I hate people, just because they are. Because they ah, are say that they're transgendered. That's, that's not true. But go ahead and put that label on me if you want to. But here's the thing, that the people that are proponents of transgendered, athletes being able to play in girls sports can only do that when it's theory. Okay? So if, if this were mainstreamed and it may yet become that way, by that I mean you really had males playing girls in professional sports where big money's involved, like tennis for example. You want to see how fast these the woke athletes who are women change their mind is if they get, if they were to get booted out of the tournaments and millions of dollars because some dude says he's a girl and wants to play against them. You could, that, that may yet happen sometime, because there's big money in tennis, there's big money in golf now there's big money. And some of these girl basketball athletes make m pretty good money. So and other sports too, what
>> Steve Jordahl: you're doing is you're also, you're demonstrating why it's so unfair for the high school athletes that have to compete against these girl, these boys because they don't have a say. It's forced on them. They. But the victory means every bit as much to these high school girls that are required to compete against boys as these NBA WNBA players or, or track athletes if that win big money and would protest and wouldn't allow it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
All right, well anyway, thanks for joining us everybody. Today on the program. We're out of time. Thanks, as always, for
All right, well anyway, thanks for joining us everybody. Today on the program. Today's issues. Thanks, as always, for listening. My thanks to. To Ed, Steve, Krish, Brent and Tim Todd. Tim Todd, and others on our team here. We're out of time. We'll see you tomorrow.
